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Old 2 December 2024, 08:07 PM   #1
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Platinum/Gold Pateks and Third Party Quick Release Straps

Delugs in Singapore is one of the most trusted and highest quality strap suppliers in the world. One great thing is, they have their own quick release spring bars in their straps. They even have a large stock of 21 mm straps that fit modern Pateks

I was wondering how such straps work with gold or platinum Patek lugs.
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Old 2 December 2024, 09:51 PM   #2
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Delugs in Singapore is one of the most trusted and highest quality strap suppliers in the world. One great thing is, they have their own quick release spring bars in their straps. They even have a large stock of 21 mm straps that fit modern Pateks

I was wondering how such straps work with gold or platinum Patek lugs.
Patek quick release pins are gold so as not to damage the lugs.
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Old 2 December 2024, 10:24 PM   #3
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I love them on my 5205G.
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This is what I posted on a similar topic a while ago.

Several (very) high end brands use ss spring bars on precious metal watches. I've talked to some of the brands directly and their response was that once the spring bar is in place, there are no significant forces constantly operating between it and the case, so their tests did not indicate any harm in using ss spring bars. Journe and MB&F, among others, do this.

Patek uses precious metal spring bars on corresponding precious metal watches, as does Rolex. Is this more of a "luxury" than a practical/technical decision? From the information I've gathered, it seems like it. I see the logic behind the argument that, being a harder metal, ss could damage the case of the watch over time, and I suppose this is where the common opinion contained in this thread, to avoid doing that, comes from. However, all concrete information I have found indicates that it's just a common misconception.

Btw, I've been using several straps with ss spring bars with my 5204p and, even under 10x magnification, there is no damage to the case's holes.
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Old Yesterday, 04:23 AM   #5
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Interesting. I was told by patek (when I was buying new strap) to use gold spring bars for corresponding gold case.

If you already have the oem patek gold spring bars which usually uses quick release tab, couldn’t you just pop them into the delugs strap if worried?

Curious to hear what everyone else does for third party straps
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I use the existing platinum or gold Patek spring bars when I install the new straps. It's no big deal, since I use the stock Patek deployants and have to change them too.
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Yea there are many brands that use steel bars in PM cases and say it's not an issue. For me, id say if it were as big an issue as some say that there would be more examples of lug holes being out of round or worn, but I don't see any posts showing that. The other aspect is I don't see any places to order gold spring bars outside of ordering direct from a brand.
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Anyone know if Lange uses pm or ss springbars?
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Anyone know if Lange uses pm or ss springbars?
I believe they use SS
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Anyone know if Lange uses pm or ss springbars?
Lange have titanium sleeve inserts in the lugs so the hole can't distort - but I guess this shows they are aware of the potential issue.
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This is what I posted on a similar topic a while ago.

Several (very) high end brands use ss spring bars on precious metal watches. I've talked to some of the brands directly and their response was that once the spring bar is in place, there are no significant forces constantly operating between it and the case, so their tests did not indicate any harm in using ss spring bars. Journe and MB&F, among others, do this.

Patek uses precious metal spring bars on corresponding precious metal watches, as does Rolex. Is this more of a "luxury" than a practical/technical decision? From the information I've gathered, it seems like it. I see the logic behind the argument that, being a harder metal, ss could damage the case of the watch over time, and I suppose this is where the common opinion contained in this thread, to avoid doing that, comes from. However, all concrete information I have found indicates that it's just a common misconception.

Btw, I've been using several straps with ss spring bars with my 5204p and, even under 10x magnification, there is no damage to the case's holes.
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Yea there are many brands that use steel bars in PM cases and say it's not an issue. For me, id say if it were as big an issue as some say that there would be more examples of lug holes being out of round or worn, but I don't see any posts showing that. The other aspect is I don't see any places to order gold spring bars outside of ordering direct from a brand.
My biggest reason for using the OEM gold spring bars is to prevent scratching the inside of the lugs as I slide the strap into place. Sliding a harder SS pin bar across a softer PM will leave nasty gouges over time.

I also use Patek WG quick release pin bars on my Langes.
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My biggest reason for using the OEM gold spring bars is to prevent scratching the inside of the lugs as I slide the strap into place. Sliding a harder SS pin bar across a softer PM will leave nasty gouges over time.

I also use Patek WG quick release pin bars on my Langes.

You are right about being better to avoid the bars sliding into place, and changing straps often would result in that. To be clear, whenever possible, I also use PP’s white gold spring bars with whatever strap I’m changing into. I’m just not afraid to *eventually* use ss quick release spring bars from third parties.
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I was told it is critical the spring bar tip fit size wise correctly in the hole to minimize wear. I am guessing some spring bar ends may be narrower than others.
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I've never heard about this being a thing before, I've been loving this combo with the delugs strap. How hard is it to remove a pull tab spring bar to switch over? Never attempted that.

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I've never heard about this being a thing before, I've been loving this combo with the delugs strap. How hard is it to remove a pull tab spring bar to switch over? Never attempted that.

Not hard at all, when you get a strap made simply request the Patek quick release pin bar slit be added so you can use the Patek supplied pins, all strap makers can add the slits and so indeed can your Patek AD - all AD's have a strap tool kit.
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You can also get an extra pair of Patek’s spring bars if you want to change straps quickly, they are $250 for a pair.

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Lange have titanium sleeve inserts in the lugs so the hole can't distort - but I guess this shows they are aware of the potential issue.
So the holes are lined with titanium and the spring bars are steel? Thanks.
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