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Old 21 October 2010, 03:30 AM   #1
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Vintage sub question

My local AD has for sale a 5513, no date. He can't put an exact date on it but says late 60's . It's been serviced by rolex with new acrylic crystal,and dial. He's asking 4k price negotiable. What are these selling for ,is that a good price? Does the service lower or raise the value? Thanks for any help
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Old 21 October 2010, 03:33 AM   #2
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what is the serial number???
Is the dial a service gloss dial replacement??
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Old 21 October 2010, 03:42 AM   #3
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6744623, he just said the dial was a new acrylic dial from rolex. Thanks for the help clay
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Old 21 October 2010, 04:31 AM   #4
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Looking at the 6 million serial number, I think that dates it to early 80's . Does that seem Right?
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Old 21 October 2010, 05:15 AM   #5
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You are correct, 6.7 is the early 80's....and should come with a matte dial. The luminova dial, if that is indeed what is on the watch, is a service replacement with hurts the overall value. The watch is no longer "all original" so 4K is an OK price, and on the high side IMO. I may offer a little under and see what he says. Does it come with anything? Box, papers or service papers?
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Old 21 October 2010, 05:38 AM   #6
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No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?
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Old 21 October 2010, 06:08 AM   #7
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No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?
I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.
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Old 21 October 2010, 06:23 AM   #8
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I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.
Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??
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Old 21 October 2010, 06:30 AM   #9
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Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??
Usually a trusted seller will tell you what has been replaced or if it's all original.
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Old 21 October 2010, 08:28 AM   #10
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If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right....

I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it.......

The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others...

If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it......
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Old 21 October 2010, 05:41 AM   #11
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I think I would walk away...There is no shortage of nice 5513's out there....
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Old 21 October 2010, 05:59 AM   #12
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..the real question is how do guys buy and sell so many vintage watches? I can't figure out how they make any money doing that.
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Old 21 October 2010, 01:57 PM   #13
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any chance of getting a picture???
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Old 21 October 2010, 07:16 PM   #14
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any chance of getting a picture???
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The 5513 is one of my favourites
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Old 22 October 2010, 04:53 AM   #15
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Really no chance of a picture, sorry guys. It's a 5513, he got on a trade-in. The watch got a new band and dial. It looks almost new.
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