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lukeh · 13 February 2011, 01:54 PM

Hi again everyone,

My previous thread was deleted, so i'm re-posting in accordance with the rules now. I'd like to find out how much this watch is worth. The dial was replaced with a 78 rail dial.

Thanks in advance

jedly1 · 13 February 2011, 05:30 PM

from previous experience ..the watch will es valued as a white seadweller or slightly less..(weirdly)...the cost of a drsd dial in good condition is so much that it actually means a donor watch to restore has to be cheap..so to the white dweller buyer it isnt original ..to the drsd buyer its a big project... and usually the buyer will be trade to take the mission on....so if it were me i'd be offering £7k region.

ps. it isnt a rail dial thats in there now..and the anchor isnt right.

eparisini · 13 February 2011, 08:07 PM

To value it should see inside caseback, ser # and ref # without bracelet, the right DR dial is very hard to find out and very expensive, it has a service acrilyc too it hasn't a superdomed tropic 39, is it the correct crown?... what I can see I can't tell worth

mike · 13 February 2011, 09:08 PM

As stated, that's not a rail dial.

Lol-x · 13 February 2011, 09:25 PM

The end links don't match....
Someone also squashed the box insert which isn't nice.
It looks like the watch needs a service.

I'd say you might get around AUD$9K- that is what they are going for I believe.

HL65 · 13 February 2011, 10:20 PM

I think for me it isn't a question of what it is worth-it is a question of who will buy it being a mixed watch and not original. It will be tough to find a buyer IMHO.

Frogman4me · 13 February 2011, 11:34 PM

Looks like someone woke up Frankenwatch and he is coming after you. He will avoid you if you simply hide your credit cards, cash and bank accounts.

TimeToGo · 14 February 2011, 12:14 AM

Welcome to the Forum!

IMHO $13-15K, as is.

HL65 · 14 February 2011, 02:25 AM

The problem is--won't be easy to find a correct dial for it. I would recommend checking with Bob Ridley or checking on VRF.

Tools · 14 February 2011, 09:33 AM

There is a lot on that watch that would devalue, rather than enhance it's value..

Hands may or may not be tritium, but certainly were replaced.. If it was a DRSD at one time, as everybody has stated, it no longer is and therefore would not command red prices..

The bracelet seems to be about to fall apart, especially worn center links, and the end-links do not match, so, again, it has been scrounged together..

The box, tags, watch and parts appear to have been put together to form a "package", and so the price would reflect this..

I'm not sure how you could call it a Mk IV DRSD when it's the dial that would make it so, and the dial isn't there.. The hands and dial are where the most value is on a vintage wtch, especially the more rare models..

Certainly there is a market for this watch, but I think that it would be less than a white in better condition.....

Michael M. · 14 February 2011, 09:41 AM

Well said and spot on Larry!

arttay10 · 14 February 2011, 09:49 AM

The knowledge on here is priceless !!

HL65 · 14 February 2011, 10:09 AM

Nothing like the truth-the whole truth and nothing but the truth-no punches pulled. That will be a tough package to sell---most wouldn't touch it!

Beaumont Miller II · 14 February 2011, 10:56 AM

Check your PM.
Best
Beaumont Miller II

WatchTimes · 14 February 2011, 02:07 PM

Watch out!!
FrankenWatch is coming for you!

I think it has already been well said here.

Only thing else I would like to see is a pic of the movement
and caseback.

greekbum · 14 February 2011, 02:18 PM

Its a project watch and should be priced accordingly. To a person with a dial that belongs in that watch it might be worth a little more than for the person that wants to buy it at a big discount and look for the dial etc.

eparisini · 15 February 2011, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekbum

Its a project watch and should be priced accordingly.

X2 MY FRIEND

lukeh · 15 February 2011, 11:02 AM

Thanks for all the input guys. Wow, a lot about this watch that I didn't know. I guess for now, i'll avoid selling it. Hopefully when I graduate, I'll have enough to restore this watch to DR status.

Thanks again

ROGERB · 15 February 2011, 11:18 AM

For me I would want a look at the movement. Something that makes me nervous is from your picture the crown seems a bit low in relation to the crown guards which could be a sign of a non Rolex movement (ie ETA ) could just be the angle but on top of the rest of mix/match I'd def want a look inside

R

lukeh · 15 February 2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

For me I would want a look at the movement. Something that makes me nervous is from your picture the crown seems a bit low in relation to the crown guards which could be a sign of a non Rolex movement (ie ETA ) could just be the angle but on top of the rest of mix/match I'd def want a look inside

R

Is there anyway to simply remove the back plate? or will I have to take it to a specialist to see the movement?

budawatch · 17 February 2011, 06:03 AM

Hmmmmm...... I think would be better to look for a "real" one.

TimeToGo · 17 February 2011, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budawatch

Hmmmmm...... I think would be better to look for a "real" one.

What makes you think it is not real?!

lukeh · 17 February 2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

What makes you think it is not real?!

I think what he meant to say was " It would be better just looking for a complete drsd". In any case, I'll be taking it to a watch maker today to have the case removed, and I'll post pics of the movement tonight.

lukeh · 21 February 2011, 11:02 PM

I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing...

. He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

lukeh · 21 February 2011, 11:37 PM

I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing...

. He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

TimeToGo · 21 February 2011, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeh

I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing...

. He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

A proper dial would run about $6-7K. Hopefully hands will match.

$6K is ridiculous. Do not fall for that!

1665fan · 23 December 2019, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeh

I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing...

. He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

Lol 10k for a drsd

HL65 · 21 February 2011, 11:08 PM

If your watch was 100% original DRSD complete--it would be worth roughly $28k-30k USD not $10k. A mint one without papers sells here in US for $23k or so--give or take a few thousand depending on how nice and if it has RSC papers or not. Unfortunately yours is mixed and matched--so my suggestion is to either go and find a DRSD dial which will cost a lot-or keep it and enjoy it as it will not attract a lot of buyers and my guess is you do not want to dump $3k or 4k into it.

eparisini · 21 February 2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

you do not want to dump $3k or 4k into it.

I think even some more $$$

HL65 · 21 February 2011, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eparisini

I think even some more $$$

Lele--I am just talking about a dial!!! DRSD dial alone--costs $3k+ for a real one--and in good condition!

13 February 2011, 01:54 PM	#1
lukeh "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AU Posts: 14	1974 mkIV DRSD without DR dial appraisal Hi again everyone, My previous thread was deleted, so i'm re-posting in accordance with the rules now. I'd like to find out how much this watch is worth. The dial was replaced with a 78 rail dial. Thanks in advance

13 February 2011, 08:07 PM	#3
eparisini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emanuele Location: Italy Watch: 6263 FAP Posts: 795	To value it should see inside caseback, ser # and ref # without bracelet, the right DR dial is very hard to find out and very expensive, it has a service acrilyc too it hasn't a superdomed tropic 39, is it the correct crown?... what I can see I can't tell worth __________________ EAT, DRINK AND BE MAUI

13 February 2011, 09:25 PM	#5
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,593	The end links don't match.... Someone also squashed the box insert which isn't nice. It looks like the watch needs a service. I'd say you might get around AUD$9K- that is what they are going for I believe. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

13 February 2011, 10:20 PM	#6
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	I think for me it isn't a question of what it is worth-it is a question of who will buy it being a mixed watch and not original. It will be tough to find a buyer IMHO. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

14 February 2011, 02:25 AM	#9
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	The problem is--won't be easy to find a correct dial for it. I would recommend checking with Bob Ridley or checking on VRF. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

13 February 2011, 05:30 PM	#2
jedly1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: mel(oz)/Yorks(uk) Posts: 1,929	from previous experience ..the watch will es valued as a white seadweller or slightly less..(weirdly)...the cost of a drsd dial in good condition is so much that it actually means a donor watch to restore has to be cheap..so to the white dweller buyer it isnt original ..to the drsd buyer its a big project... and usually the buyer will be trade to take the mission on....so if it were me i'd be offering £7k region. ps. it isnt a rail dial thats in there now..and the anchor isnt right.

13 February 2011, 09:08 PM	#4
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	As stated, that's not a rail dial.

13 February 2011, 11:34 PM	#7
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Looks like someone woke up Frankenwatch and he is coming after you. He will avoid you if you simply hide your credit cards, cash and bank accounts.

14 February 2011, 12:14 AM	#8
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Welcome to the Forum! IMHO $13-15K, as is.

14 February 2011, 09:33 AM	#10
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	There is a lot on that watch that would devalue, rather than enhance it's value.. Hands may or may not be tritium, but certainly were replaced.. If it was a DRSD at one time, as everybody has stated, it no longer is and therefore would not command red prices.. The bracelet seems to be about to fall apart, especially worn center links, and the end-links do not match, so, again, it has been scrounged together.. The box, tags, watch and parts appear to have been put together to form a "package", and so the price would reflect this.. I'm not sure how you could call it a Mk IV DRSD when it's the dial that would make it so, and the dial isn't there.. The hands and dial are where the most value is on a vintage wtch, especially the more rare models.. Certainly there is a market for this watch, but I think that it would be less than a white in better condition..... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member Last edited by Tools; 14 February 2011 at 11:40 AM..

14 February 2011, 09:41 AM	#11
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Well said and spot on Larry!

14 February 2011, 09:49 AM	#12
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	The knowledge on here is priceless !!

14 February 2011, 10:09 AM	#13
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	Nothing like the truth-the whole truth and nothing but the truth-no punches pulled. That will be a tough package to sell---most wouldn't touch it! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

14 February 2011, 10:56 AM	#14
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	Check your PM. Best Beaumont Miller II __________________

14 February 2011, 02:07 PM	#15
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Watch out!! FrankenWatch is coming for you! I think it has already been well said here. Only thing else I would like to see is a pic of the movement and caseback. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

14 February 2011, 02:18 PM	#16
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Its a project watch and should be priced accordingly. To a person with a dial that belongs in that watch it might be worth a little more than for the person that wants to buy it at a big discount and look for the dial etc. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

15 February 2011, 11:02 AM	#18
lukeh "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AU Posts: 14	Thanks for all the input guys. Wow, a lot about this watch that I didn't know. I guess for now, i'll avoid selling it. Hopefully when I graduate, I'll have enough to restore this watch to DR status. Thanks again

15 February 2011, 11:18 AM	#19
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	For me I would want a look at the movement. Something that makes me nervous is from your picture the crown seems a bit low in relation to the crown guards which could be a sign of a non Rolex movement (ie ETA ) could just be the angle but on top of the rest of mix/match I'd def want a look inside R

17 February 2011, 06:03 AM	#21
budawatch Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Budapest, HUNGARY Posts: 18	Hmmmmm...... I think would be better to look for a "real" one.

21 February 2011, 11:02 PM	#24
lukeh "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AU Posts: 14	I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing... . He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

21 February 2011, 11:37 PM	#25
lukeh "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: AU Posts: 14	I Went to an antique jewelry shop in Sydney, and the owner offered me a max. of $6,000. Very disappointing... . He said even if it had the original dial, he'd only give me $10,000 for a complete DR.

21 February 2011, 11:08 PM	#28
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	If your watch was 100% original DRSD complete--it would be worth roughly $28k-30k USD not $10k. A mint one without papers sells here in US for $23k or so--give or take a few thousand depending on how nice and if it has RSC papers or not. Unfortunately yours is mixed and matched--so my suggestion is to either go and find a DRSD dial which will cost a lot-or keep it and enjoy it as it will not attract a lot of buyers and my guess is you do not want to dump $3k or 4k into it. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

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