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Dedot · 6 May 2011, 09:38 PM

Hi All,

I HAD a chance to get a BNIB with random serial on exp II white for a premium price. I think it's about +$300 more than the other sellers are offering here. I waited and waited and missed my chance. Ever since then, I found myself always looking for the one that got away.

So, is it worth it to get a random serial number on discontinued piece (ie. sub lv, exp II) and pay little more extra (i.e $200-500)? or just forget the whole serial number debacle as long as it's new..?? Any thoughts?

Gaijin · 6 May 2011, 11:37 PM

Long term I think it just won't matter. So many Explorer IIs have been produced that I doubt any of them will ever become collector's pieces. Great way way underrated Rolex though! Best fiting Rolex I have ever owned.

93 Turbo · 6 May 2011, 11:53 PM

Mate, forget the serial # debacle. Given the 16570 is recently discontinued you will pick up a NOS/BNIB from a trusted seller here for considerably less, or you can walk into a AD in Aus and pay way more than you have too.

I see very good examples of the 16570 being offered on this forum currently. If new BNIB and random serial # is that important to you, get to a AD now to secure what you want, if they still have any in stock. The LV will be a little more difficult as is has been discontinued a for over 12 months. If you have the funds, procrastination will do you no good, hence your post.

All the best for the future.

smallcandle · 7 May 2011, 01:45 AM

Don't worry about the serial number. It is just a number, afterall... Padi should be along shortly to offer his opinion on the matter.

rr-nyc · 7 May 2011, 01:52 AM

Premium price on a random? I wouldn't

Tools · 7 May 2011, 02:21 AM

Every watch that is discontinued sees a short-term spike in prices on the Internet..

For some reason there are some who think that the "last" of a product becomes more valuable... Historically this has not been proven to hold up though...

So, no, do not pay a premium at this time for the last of the Explorer II's; there are plenty around for MSRP or less..

In about 6 months everybody will be asking for a premium and so then you want to wait until the spike dies down....

Brushpup · 7 May 2011, 02:51 AM

Listen to Larry.

padi56 · 7 May 2011, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedot

Hi All,

I HAD a chance to get a BNIB with random serial on exp II white for a premium price. I think it's about +$300 more than the other sellers are offering here. I waited and waited and missed my chance. Ever since then, I found myself always looking for the one that got away.

So, is it worth it to get a random serial number on discontinued piece (ie. sub lv, exp II) and pay little more extra (i.e $200-500)? or just forget the whole serial number debacle as long as it's new..?? Any thoughts?

Well in well over 30 years dealing with Rolex watches no watch that I can recollect have been more collectible just because of a case stamp.And there must be many many thousands Explorer 11s in this world today.And since its introduction in 1988/9 all the same except for a few minor fonts a minor movement mod and a case stamp.Its just Internet hype that put these silly prices about, no serious watch collector would have any modern day Rolex on his/her must have list or pay extra price just because its been discontinued .

Passionata · 7 May 2011, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedot

Hi All,

I HAD a chance to get a BNIB with random serial on exp II white for a premium price. I think it's about +$300 more than the other sellers are offering here. I waited and waited and missed my chance. Ever since then, I found myself always looking for the one that got away.

So, is it worth it to get a random serial number on discontinued piece (ie. sub lv, exp II) and pay little more extra (i.e $200-500)? or just forget the whole serial number debacle as long as it's new..?? Any thoughts?

do not pay premium on that piece rather ask 10-20percent discount

MortgageGuy · 7 May 2011, 05:38 AM

Absolutely NOT worth a premium

Should not have an issue getting a discount on a EXP II as mentioned, it is not a fast seller

Art 1 · 7 May 2011, 05:41 AM

Not worth it.

major_error · 7 May 2011, 06:23 AM

"Good things comes to those who wait"
(Jason Ringenberg, 1986)

The GMT Master · 7 May 2011, 06:25 AM

The Explorer II isn't discontinued yet, ADs will have availability until probably September, if not a bit longer

tkc324 · 7 May 2011, 06:26 AM

Not worth it.

Dedot · 7 May 2011, 09:06 PM

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll keep it in mind that it's only a jumbled up numbers...

I guess I was a little bit unclear and shouldnt use the word "premium". What I meant was, with the random serial on white expy II I still got a discount but the discount was not as much as the M/V serial. Net price on random serial was about $400 more.

phampau · 8 May 2011, 01:04 AM

I wouldn't pay $400 more just for a random serial with both being BNIB from AD

6 May 2011, 09:38 PM	#1
Dedot "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 197	Is it worth it......? Hi All, I HAD a chance to get a BNIB with random serial on exp II white for a premium price. I think it's about +$300 more than the other sellers are offering here. I waited and waited and missed my chance. Ever since then, I found myself always looking for the one that got away. So, is it worth it to get a random serial number on discontinued piece (ie. sub lv, exp II) and pay little more extra (i.e $200-500)? or just forget the whole serial number debacle as long as it's new..?? Any thoughts?

7 May 2011, 01:45 AM	#4
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	Don't worry about the serial number. It is just a number, afterall... Padi should be along shortly to offer his opinion on the matter. __________________ Things got out of control and I had to stab a clown...

7 May 2011, 02:21 AM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Every watch that is discontinued sees a short-term spike in prices on the Internet.. For some reason there are some who think that the "last" of a product becomes more valuable... Historically this has not been proven to hold up though... So, no, do not pay a premium at this time for the last of the Explorer II's; there are plenty around for MSRP or less.. In about 6 months everybody will be asking for a premium and so then you want to wait until the spike dies down.... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

7 May 2011, 02:51 AM	#7
Brushpup "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Patrick Location: Texas Watch: what I'm wearing Posts: 5,943	Listen to Larry. __________________ *TRFs "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron-Founding Member* PClub # 10 74,592 The safest place for your watch is on your wrist.

7 May 2011, 05:38 AM	#10
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Absolutely NOT worth a premium Should not have an issue getting a discount on a EXP II as mentioned, it is not a fast seller __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

6 May 2011, 11:37 PM	#2
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Long term I think it just won't matter. So many Explorer IIs have been produced that I doubt any of them will ever become collector's pieces. Great way way underrated Rolex though! Best fiting Rolex I have ever owned.

6 May 2011, 11:53 PM	#3
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	Mate, forget the serial # debacle. Given the 16570 is recently discontinued you will pick up a NOS/BNIB from a trusted seller here for considerably less, or you can walk into a AD in Aus and pay way more than you have too. I see very good examples of the 16570 being offered on this forum currently. If new BNIB and random serial # is that important to you, get to a AD now to secure what you want, if they still have any in stock. The LV will be a little more difficult as is has been discontinued a for over 12 months. If you have the funds, procrastination will do you no good, hence your post. All the best for the future.

7 May 2011, 01:52 AM	#5
rr-nyc Liar & Ratbag Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: NYC / Miami Beach Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 5,344	Premium price on a random? I wouldn't

7 May 2011, 05:41 AM	#11
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Not worth it.

7 May 2011, 06:23 AM	#12
major_error "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oslo Posts: 15	"Good things comes to those who wait" (Jason Ringenberg, 1986)

7 May 2011, 06:25 AM	#13
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	The Explorer II isn't discontinued yet, ADs will have availability until probably September, if not a bit longer

7 May 2011, 06:26 AM	#14
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	Not worth it.

7 May 2011, 09:06 PM	#15
Dedot "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 197	Thanks for all the feedback. I'll keep it in mind that it's only a jumbled up numbers... I guess I was a little bit unclear and shouldnt use the word "premium". What I meant was, with the random serial on white expy II I still got a discount but the discount was not as much as the M/V serial. Net price on random serial was about $400 more.

8 May 2011, 01:04 AM	#16
phampau "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Watch: Sub-C Posts: 460	I wouldn't pay $400 more just for a random serial with both being BNIB from AD __________________

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