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TswaneNguni · 4 June 2011, 11:11 PM

Any comments ? Any pics ?

Megalobyte · 4 June 2011, 11:54 PM

Not really but found this, talk about complications!

ispep · 5 June 2011, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Megalobyte

Not really but found this, talk about complications!

what time is it ?

TswaneNguni · 5 June 2011, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Megalobyte

Not really but found this, talk about complications!

36 Comlpications
1483 Components
99 Jewels

It is a masterpiece

ecsub44 · 5 June 2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Megalobyte

Not really but found this, talk about complications!

That's insane. In a good way...

Maxtor · 5 June 2011, 12:14 AM

Wild. Wonder who can service something that complicated and what the 5 year tune up would cost?

Speed · 5 June 2011, 12:33 AM

Man, that looks like a pinball machine!!!

Megalobyte · 5 June 2011, 12:43 AM

You're right! How cool would it be if there WAS a tiny gold pinball inside that bounced around the dial. :)

As for servicing, I think Costco does them for $49.95. :)

I'd bet you're looking at over 5k for a service, maybe closer to 10.

Dr. Robert · 5 June 2011, 02:18 AM

where is the 3 stooges face plant pic???????

horseco · 5 June 2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

where is the 3 stooges face plant pic???????

Dr. Robert · 5 June 2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by horseco

YESSSSS!!!!!!! This is a great "face plant" pic!!!!!!!!

dsio · 5 June 2011, 12:42 AM

Why are there three separate 24 hour dials?

And the big question, do those hands actually all move? lol

WatchTimes · 5 June 2011, 01:16 AM

Not a fan....
HORRID resale value.
A couple clients have asked me to sell theirs for them
and I won't even do it as when they hear what they
can get they are shocked and think Im making it up.
If you REALLY love it but used.
Do not buy a basic model, he is the Master of Complications
and that is the only way you will have a decent resale.

Dweller of the Sea · 5 June 2011, 01:35 AM

I once talked with a aftersales watchmaker at Audemars Piquet. He was working on a regular service of a perpetual calender tourbillon minute repeater. I asked how long it would take, he replied about 2 months.
I guess it would cost a lot of $$$ two pay for this expert wages for 2 months, plus the earnings of AP and the dealer. It probably costs around 20k- 30k

dsio · 5 June 2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dweller of the Sea

I once talked with a aftersales watchmaker at Audemars Piquet. He was working on a regular service of a perpetual calender tourbillon minute repeater. I asked how long it would take, he replied about 2 months.
I guess it would cost a lot of $$$ two pay for this expert wages for 2 months, plus the earnings of AP and the dealer. It probably costs around 20k- 30k

Two months sounds a bit on the high side, maybe factoring in time waiting on parts, testing, regulation and fine tuning? Two months continuous work is a lot of work.

Widows Son · 5 June 2011, 01:46 AM

Looking at that dial gives me a headache!!!!

ecsub44 · 5 June 2011, 02:19 AM

Any idea what this example would cost new?

Megalobyte · 5 June 2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ecsub44

Any idea what this example would cost new?

Probably somewhere between $250,000-300,000. That's a lot of Rolexes, or pateks for that matter.

Speed · 5 June 2011, 03:44 AM

Time...can you tell the time on this?

roger 2011 · 5 June 2011, 04:08 AM

Not as Complicated as above but here's mine:

Rolex Junky · 5 June 2011, 04:22 AM

The pic posted feutures the most complex complication to date and is the most expensive new watch on record. About 1,5 millon euro or dollars. I cant recall.

dsio · 5 June 2011, 04:25 AM

Honestly, does it count as 3 separate complications if you just have 3 separate GMT time zones? I mean I'm sure you could make a watch with 40 GMT zones and take out the record for most complicated watch.

Mockingbird · 5 June 2011, 05:23 AM

My good friend has a Perp Cal made by them. It's fine and he loves it, but the design really doesn't do anything for me. That being said, the grand complications are engineering masterpieces.

Bdel · 5 June 2011, 07:53 AM

I have a crazy hours color dreams. No date. The only zcomplication is the jumping hours function.

subtona · 5 June 2011, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Any comments ? Any pics ?

who?

seriously ,
who.

TswaneNguni · 5 June 2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

who?

seriously ,
who.

FP Journe ? Phillipe Dufour ?

subtona · 6 June 2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

FP Journe ? Phillipe Dufour ?

if sothebys were having a watch auction... would muller make the cut?

would the prices typically be greatly diminished or increase in value.

that is my question and my litmus test of value.

kilyung · 6 June 2011, 03:14 AM

I like some of of the lady's models but the men's don't do it for me. I like simple.

Starwalker · 7 June 2011, 01:44 PM

Franck's limited edition and highly complicated models that have been commissioned and made for exclusive clients are some phenomenal time pieces...and would definitely command big numbers at an auction.

subtona · 9 June 2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Starwalker

Franck's limited edition and highly complicated models that have been commissioned and made for exclusive clients are some phenomenal time pieces...and would definitely command big numbers at an auction.

interesting, i would definitely need more education on these watches. ive heard about them for maybe 10 years now but haven't given them much thought...

but imho,

it is trendy now that things are sold in limited editions with exclusivity.... but this more often than not, seems to be marketing hype.

when something is made in modern production to be collectible from the start... i just don't think that its authentic. some things perhaps but few and far between.

the mona lisa was not created to be collectible, it became that way later... so the out of the box franck muller - mona lisa, is not convincing me of its long term value?

ps as i wright this there is a member looking to trade his muller for a rolex (just about any rolex)

4 June 2011, 11:11 PM	#1
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Any Franck Muller enthusiasts among the Rolex faithful ?? Any comments ? Any pics ?

5 June 2011, 02:18 AM	#9
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,248	where is the 3 stooges face plant pic??????? __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

5 June 2011, 12:42 AM	#12
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	Why are there three separate 24 hour dials? And the big question, do those hands actually all move? lol __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

5 June 2011, 01:16 AM	#13
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Not a fan.... HORRID resale value. A couple clients have asked me to sell theirs for them and I won't even do it as when they hear what they can get they are shocked and think Im making it up. If you REALLY love it but used. Do not buy a basic model, he is the Master of Complications and that is the only way you will have a decent resale. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

5 June 2011, 02:19 AM	#17
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	Any idea what this example would cost new? __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

4 June 2011, 11:54 PM	#2
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	Not really but found this, talk about complications!

5 June 2011, 12:14 AM	#6
Maxtor 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Max Location: Toronto Watch: Exp 1, DJ Tuxedo Posts: 2,472	Wild. Wonder who can service something that complicated and what the 5 year tune up would cost?

5 June 2011, 12:33 AM	#7
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Man, that looks like a pinball machine!!!

5 June 2011, 12:43 AM	#8
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	You're right! How cool would it be if there WAS a tiny gold pinball inside that bounced around the dial. :) As for servicing, I think Costco does them for $49.95. :) I'd bet you're looking at over 5k for a service, maybe closer to 10.

5 June 2011, 01:35 AM	#14
Dweller of the Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: EU Watch: ing TRF Posts: 576	I once talked with a aftersales watchmaker at Audemars Piquet. He was working on a regular service of a perpetual calender tourbillon minute repeater. I asked how long it would take, he replied about 2 months. I guess it would cost a lot of $$$ two pay for this expert wages for 2 months, plus the earnings of AP and the dealer. It probably costs around 20k- 30k

5 June 2011, 01:46 AM	#16
Widows Son "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hudson Ohio Posts: 3,564	Looking at that dial gives me a headache!!!!

5 June 2011, 03:44 AM	#19
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Time...can you tell the time on this?

5 June 2011, 04:08 AM	#20
roger 2011 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London, U.K Watch: Daytona 116509 Posts: 218	Not as Complicated as above but here's mine: Attached Images

5 June 2011, 04:22 AM	#21
Rolex Junky Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Lorenzo Location: Netherlands Watch: 116710LN & 116201 Posts: 849	The pic posted feutures the most complex complication to date and is the most expensive new watch on record. About 1,5 millon euro or dollars. I cant recall.

5 June 2011, 04:25 AM	#22
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	Honestly, does it count as 3 separate complications if you just have 3 separate GMT time zones? I mean I'm sure you could make a watch with 40 GMT zones and take out the record for most complicated watch. __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

5 June 2011, 05:23 AM	#23
Mockingbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: -- Posts: 2,097	My good friend has a Perp Cal made by them. It's fine and he loves it, but the design really doesn't do anything for me. That being said, the grand complications are engineering masterpieces.

5 June 2011, 07:53 AM	#24
Bdel "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Bruce Location: New Hampshire Posts: 271	I have a crazy hours color dreams. No date. The only zcomplication is the jumping hours function. __________________ Collection: Yachtmaster TT, Milgauss, Explorer II, SeaDweller, Air King, Lange #1, BR03-92, Panerai PAM 112, Omega Planet Ocean, Corum Admirals Cup, Ball Engineer, U-boat Flight Deck, Longines Silver Arrow, Hamilton Ventura,etc...

6 June 2011, 03:14 AM	#28
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I like some of of the lady's models but the men's don't do it for me. I like simple.

7 June 2011, 01:44 PM	#29
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,261	Franck's limited edition and highly complicated models that have been commissioned and made for exclusive clients are some phenomenal time pieces...and would definitely command big numbers at an auction. __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

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