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Old 22 August 2011, 04:35 AM   #1
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Icon7 Woman's vs Men's Rolex used value

I know there are a b'zillion threads on Rolex value on the used market so I hope this one is a bit different. In looking at the 4-sale watches I see that men's outnumber women's 20 to 1 if not more. Should I assume there are more men's watches sold new than women's and if so, do the women's command more money on the used market, relevant and proportional to new cost that is.

In the process of buying a new woman's Datejust TT with jubilee bracelet diamond dial and diamond bezel.

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Old 22 August 2011, 04:37 AM   #2
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I think wonen's tend to go for less. I think they are harder to sell even though you do not see as many on the used market they still compand less money.

You should be able to get a deal on one.

Just my two cents.
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Old 22 August 2011, 04:41 AM   #3
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May change in time, as soon as I got a few my wife wanted one

Instantly creating demand LOL
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Old 22 August 2011, 08:37 AM   #4
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Women's will bring less money in the secondary market than men's because of lower demand.

Pair that with the definite depreciation of (1) TT and (2) diamonds relative to new pricing, and you have a fairly unexciting resale value.

Not to say don't buy new (although many would say so), but go into it realistically.
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Old 22 August 2011, 08:50 AM   #5
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Women's will bring less money in the secondary market than men's because of lower demand.

Pair that with the definite depreciation of (1) TT and (2) diamonds relative to new pricing, and you have a fairly unexciting resale value.

Not to say don't buy new (although many would say so), but go into it realistically.
I've never bought any sort of jewelry used and feel uncomfortable doing so as it's not in my expertise. I think for me the only watch I'd consider buying used is an all gold/platinum watch as they depreciate so rapidly. The Rolex TT's are priced reasonably in my opinion.

I actually thought that More women keep their watches longer so that is why there are less of them on the used market. I wonder what the production ratio is for men vs women?
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Old 22 August 2011, 09:09 AM   #6
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I've never bought any sort of jewelry used and feel uncomfortable doing so as it's not in my expertise.
I am very much in favor of buying new for most non-WIS women. Just saying, helps to be realistic about resale value.
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Old 22 August 2011, 08:44 AM   #7
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the key is to buy pre-loved no matter what the gender.
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Old 22 August 2011, 08:57 AM   #8
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Ladies watches across the board: Rolex,Patek---etc go for less. Think about the nature of women they do not like "used" items.
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Old 22 August 2011, 09:08 AM   #9
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Ladies watches across the board: Rolex,Patek---etc go for less. Think about the nature of women they do not like "used" items.
Do you think Rolex produces 10x more men's than women's watches?
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Old 22 August 2011, 11:44 AM   #10
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[QUOTE=Keeperoftime;2688027]Ladies watches across the board: Rolex,Patek---etc go for less. Think about the nature of women they do not like "used" items.[/QUOTE]

I completely disagree! However, none of the used Rolexes I've purchased have been strictly women's models. At my gray dealer, there are lots of 26mm Datejusts in the case. Dealer says sales of Lady DJ are very slow.
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Old 23 August 2011, 01:51 AM   #11
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I completely disagree! ....At my gray dealer, there are lots of 26mm Datejusts in the case. Dealer says sales of Lady DJ are very slow.
This has been my experience, too.

My wife differs from some of yours dramatically. She is a professional shopper, to be sure, but she lives by the adage that "a woman will buy a $20 item she doesn't need if it is on sale for $10." The deal is as important to her as the item. So, not only did she want a "grey" dealer Rolex, but she was not at all phased by getting one without B&P.

As with most ladies' watches that are all quartz and stamped with some name brand, be it Ann Taylor, Citizen, or what have you, they are all based on imitations of the standard Lady DJ, except the parts are non-automatic and sub-standard, with faux gold, etc. This is the watch she'd be wearing, in one incarnation or another, since college. So, a few years ago I finally got fed up and told her if she was going to wear nice shoes and purses and jewelry, she owed it to herself to get a nice watch.

Now, rather than re-buying a watch every 2-3 yrs, she has one that is permanent and never need be replaced. She doesn't give 2 figs about B&P because she never intends to resale.

So, contrary to what others may have experienced, my wife considers the used TT DJ, no B/P, from 1999 that I bought her about 4 years ago to still be the unqualified best most thoughtful gift I ever gave her. (And no, I didn't behave niggardly with other gifts over the years -- it's just that this one seemed the most personal and thoughtful and best and most useful to her.)
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Old 22 August 2011, 06:50 PM   #12
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Ladies watches across the board: Rolex,Patek---etc go for less. Think about the nature of women they do not like "used" items.
There it is, IMHO. My wife would stop talking to me if I bought her a used Rolex...

She'd rather take a new 1000 euro Omega than a Used ladies 18K date just with diamonds.
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I would agree with buying preowned if your wife or girlfriend is ok with it. You will save a ton and the ladies models do take a huge hit when new. Problem is my wife doesn't like anything used. Hope you are in a different situation. :-)
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Old 22 August 2011, 11:11 AM   #14
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I would agree with buying preowned if your wife or girlfriend is ok with it. You will save a ton and the ladies models do take a huge hit when new. Problem is my wife doesn't like anything used. Hope you are in a different situation. :-)
I've never bought a used piece of jewelry so I'm not sure how she would react. I would think if it's in a nice box and looks new that it may not matter but just now over dinner she said she likes two tone watches now since she already has a few all gold ones so it looks like a new Datejust it is. I think she will like the Datejust TT 31mm with smooth diamond bezel and white or mop diamond dial. Believe me that her latest car was easier to decide on than this silly watch!
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Old 22 August 2011, 11:22 AM   #15
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take into account the face that so many women wear mid or full soe rolexes now, the 26mm ones are cheap. we are STOCKED with them, but cant keep the mid size in stock.

i am talking pre owned.
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Old 22 August 2011, 11:31 AM   #16
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take into account the face that so many women wear mid or full soe rolexes now, the 26mm ones are cheap. we are STOCKED with them, but cant keep the mid size in stock.

i am talking pre owned.
Going for 31mm. Isn't that mid sized? I agree 26mm is to small.
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Old 22 August 2011, 11:36 AM   #17
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Going for 31mm. Isn't that mid sized? I agree 26mm is to small.
Yes, it's midsized, and you are describing a super choice.
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Old 23 August 2011, 02:07 AM   #18
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I just had a big discussion with my jewler about this topic. Women watches in almost all cases have very poor resell value. The biggest contributing factor is that women dont tend to buy and sell their watch as frequent as men. Women tend to wear 1 or 2 watches thru out long periods of time. So less buying used watch demands.
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Old 23 August 2011, 02:55 AM   #19
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More women are choosing men's watches too, so that must have an impact. Besides, you get more metal for your money with a man's watch!
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