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Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 12:13 PM

Hello all:

I read in these forums that the correct hand stack for a 1675 places the red GMT hand on the bottom below the hour hand.

Just noticed that my (what are supposed to be original hands) do not indicate this as the GMT hand is above the hour hand.

Any idea how this could have happend?

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 12:15 PM

an other pic

toph · 16 September 2011, 12:17 PM

changed in service possibly.. actually most likely. If it has had a non rolex service they might just have put them back on in wrong order.
my 1675 goes from bottom to top ; red hand hour hand minute hand seconds hand.

kyle L · 16 September 2011, 12:45 PM

So the GMT hand rotates twice every 24 hours and the hour hand only rotates once in your case?

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

So the GMT hand rotates twice every 24 hours and the hour hand only rotates once in your case?

nope, GMT is once a day and hour is every 12. Keeps perfect time in both time zones.

Saxon007 · 16 September 2011, 01:19 PM

You sure it is a 1675 and not a 16750?

dddrees · 16 September 2011, 01:18 PM

Wrong position but it works correctly?

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 02:50 PM

yup, serial 61xxxxx. So a 1979 I presume??

and yes, wrong stack position and works perfectly.

Any GMT masters out there with an opinion or ever see this before?

toph · 16 September 2011, 03:05 PM

yes a 16750 haas hand stacked like yours!! came in 1980? could be a crossover , very possible, or just and earlier case to movement too

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by toph

yes a 16750 haas hand stacked like yours!! came in 1980? could be a crossover , very possible, or just and earlier case to movement too

wow, so now I am super interested in what I have on my wrist. I bought it from my friend who owns Honolulu Time, and is a very trust worthy dealer. I am almost positive that the hands and dial are original. Could the movement be a later service piece?

I assume it would have to be opened up to to be sure?

toph · 16 September 2011, 03:17 PM

have you checked the case that it says 1675 and not 16750?
Even if it does say 1675 it might never have been used until they started using the upgraded movement on the 16750? Stranger things have happened.
Get the movement checked. Also movement could have been replaced but so woudl dial and hands probably at the same time.
Still a great watch but for peopel like us it nice to know what one has exactly

toph · 16 September 2011, 03:18 PM

may i add that that dial was used on both the 1675 and 16750.

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 03:23 PM

what about the time adjustment. Is the 16750 GMT non adjustable like the 1675? If I do have a 16750 movement the GMT hand is still non adjustable, just like a 1675.

toph · 16 September 2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad Bigsby

what about the time adjustment. Is the 16750 GMT non adjustable like the 1675? If I do have a 16750 movement the GMT hand is still non adjustable, just like a 1675.

Yeah, the independent red hand only came in 1983 with the introduction 16760 or Fat lady as its known as it had a thicker case too. it had 3085 movement

GMT 1675 had
1560/5 movement ( 0 on the end is the base movement but denoted with the 5 to reference modification of the date added to base calibre .
then the
1570/5 movement
and the 16750 had a 100m depth rating not 50 m and 3075 movement with a 28.8k bph rate over the 19.8k for the previous cal. 1575

Konrad Bigsby · 16 September 2011, 03:46 PM

cool, so I may have a transition year? Very exciting and I will get my friend to pull the back off just as soon as I can. Stay tuned and happy to hear from anyone else who wants to chime in.

Much Mahalo!

Submarino · 17 September 2011, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad Bigsby

cool, so I may have a transition year? Very exciting and I will get my friend to pull the back off just as soon as I can. Stay tuned and happy to hear from anyone else who wants to chime in.

Much Mahalo!

Base on the ref. and serial that watch should be a non-quick set calendar.

Is it non-quick set or quickset? That might help understand the movement situation.

Konrad Bigsby · 17 September 2011, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

Base on the ref. and serial that watch should be a non-quick set calendar.

Is it non-quick set or quickset? That might help understand the movement situation.

A non quick set, case says 1675 and yet the hour hand is on the bottom.

toph · 16 September 2011, 03:55 PM

does the case say 1675 on it?

mike · 16 September 2011, 04:35 PM

Stack.

1675 24 hr. on bottom

16750 12 hr. on bottom

psv · 17 September 2011, 04:24 AM

Time to open it up.

GeoGio Greece · 17 September 2011, 04:48 AM

A friends 1675 , dated 1967 if I am not wrong, 24h on bottom.

Submarino · 17 September 2011, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GeoGio Greece

A friends 1675 , dated 1967 if I am not wrong, 24h on bottom.

The issue here is that the 24H (red hand) is not at the bottom where it is supposed to be.

GeoGio Greece · 17 September 2011, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

The issue here is that the 24H (red hand) is not at the bottom where it is supposed to be.

...yes, correct, but it was an opportunity to post my pictures of a decent one

Konrad Bigsby · 17 September 2011, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submarino

The issue here is that the 24H (red hand) is not at the bottom where it is supposed to be.

Yes, that is the issue

kyle L · 17 September 2011, 06:32 AM

Still trying to figure out how it works perfectly if the hands are stacked wrong...

Konrad Bigsby · 17 September 2011, 06:37 AM

I am starting to think it may be a transitional year? Maybe a 1675 case with a pre quickset 16750 movement from the factory.

Is this possible?

mike · 17 September 2011, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad Bigsby

I am starting to think it may be a transitional year? Maybe a 1675 case with a pre quickset 16750 movement from the factory.

Is this possible?

Not really. The dial feet are different for a 1675 vs. the 16750.

toph · 17 September 2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Not really. The dial feet are different for a 1675 vs. the 16750.

of course you are right but that would make no difference if they just had a 1675 case and stuck a 16750 mov't ,hands and dial on it. This matte dial was laos used on both so from its appearnace it tells us nothing. I dont know if rolex could have done this but thats what he wants too know i think

mike · 17 September 2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toph

of course you are right but that would make no difference if they just had a 1675 case and stuck a 16750 mov't ,hands and dial on it. This matte dial was laos used on both so from its appearnace it tells us nothing. I dont know if rolex could have done this but thats what he wants too know i think

True and a 16750 caseback works on a 1675, but I'd think Rolex would use a case marked 16750 for the 3075 movement. Who knows though. Opening it up will answer all.

toph · 19 September 2011, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

True and a 16750 caseback works on a 1675, but I'd think Rolex would use a case marked 16750 for the 3075 movement. Who knows though. Opening it up will answer all.

I would tend to fully agree again but as you say, who knows, stranger things have happened

16 September 2011, 12:13 PM	#1
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	1675 GMT Hand Stack Hello all: I read in these forums that the correct hand stack for a 1675 places the red GMT hand on the bottom below the hour hand. Just noticed that my (what are supposed to be original hands) do not indicate this as the GMT hand is above the hour hand. Any idea how this could have happend? Attached Images

16 September 2011, 12:15 PM	#2
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	an other pic Attached Images

16 September 2011, 12:17 PM	#3
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	changed in service possibly.. actually most likely. If it has had a non rolex service they might just have put them back on in wrong order. my 1675 goes from bottom to top ; red hand hour hand minute hand seconds hand. __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 September 2011, 01:19 PM	#6
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	You sure it is a 1675 and not a 16750? __________________ Licensed to kill time.

16 September 2011, 01:18 PM	#7
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Wrong position but it works correctly? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

16 September 2011, 12:45 PM	#4
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	So the GMT hand rotates twice every 24 hours and the hour hand only rotates once in your case?

16 September 2011, 02:50 PM	#8
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	yup, serial 61xxxxx. So a 1979 I presume?? and yes, wrong stack position and works perfectly. Any GMT masters out there with an opinion or ever see this before?

16 September 2011, 03:05 PM	#9
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	yes a 16750 haas hand stacked like yours!! came in 1980? could be a crossover , very possible, or just and earlier case to movement too __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 September 2011, 03:17 PM	#11
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	have you checked the case that it says 1675 and not 16750? Even if it does say 1675 it might never have been used until they started using the upgraded movement on the 16750? Stranger things have happened. Get the movement checked. Also movement could have been replaced but so woudl dial and hands probably at the same time. Still a great watch but for peopel like us it nice to know what one has exactly __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 September 2011, 03:18 PM	#12
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	may i add that that dial was used on both the 1675 and 16750. __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 September 2011, 03:23 PM	#13
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	what about the time adjustment. Is the 16750 GMT non adjustable like the 1675? If I do have a 16750 movement the GMT hand is still non adjustable, just like a 1675.

16 September 2011, 03:46 PM	#15
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	cool, so I may have a transition year? Very exciting and I will get my friend to pull the back off just as soon as I can. Stay tuned and happy to hear from anyone else who wants to chime in. Much Mahalo!

16 September 2011, 03:55 PM	#18
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	does the case say 1675 on it? __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

16 September 2011, 04:35 PM	#19
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Stack. 1675 24 hr. on bottom 16750 12 hr. on bottom

17 September 2011, 04:24 AM	#20
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	Time to open it up.

17 September 2011, 04:48 AM	#21
GeoGio Greece "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: George Location: Athens, Greece Watch: es --> A lot ! Posts: 2,327	A friends 1675 , dated 1967 if I am not wrong, 24h on bottom. __________________ Rolex owner since 1971. 5513 and 16700 the loved ones. DJ WG Jubilee 16170 for wife - U series Oyster Perpetual WG 177234 for daughter V-series

17 September 2011, 06:32 AM	#25
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	Still trying to figure out how it works perfectly if the hands are stacked wrong...

17 September 2011, 06:37 AM	#26
Konrad Bigsby Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 49	I am starting to think it may be a transitional year? Maybe a 1675 case with a pre quickset 16750 movement from the factory. Is this possible?

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