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London Gent · 8 January 2012, 12:14 PM

Hello everyone,

Hope you are all well.

I am keen to pull the trigger on this:

http://www.officialwatches.co.uk/rol...-16610-lv/1820

I am no expert but does everything seem in order with an LV from 2008 - ie no rehaut engraving, dial and box etc....

In addition I have the option of purchasing a 'flat 4' model from 2004 for £4750, is it worth paying more for this version??

Thanks in advance for your assistance and thoughts / comments.

Kanger · 8 January 2012, 12:25 PM

Just saying. That is not a flat 4. On the warranty paper it says "14060M" which is a no date Sub. And that watch is not from 2008 as indicated in the ad. Just saying.

GradyPhilpott · 8 January 2012, 12:33 PM

Have you seen these watches in person?

If not, I wouldn't trust those pictures, because they look highly tweaked and as noted above the papers don't match the watch.

HL65 · 8 January 2012, 12:34 PM

Enough to make me pass....

MortgageGuy · 8 January 2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Enough to make me pass....

X2 for me

sportsmaven20 · 8 January 2012, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

X2 for me

x3, me too!

Tools · 8 January 2012, 02:59 PM

Wrong box, wrong paperwork...

Doesn't really say much for the put-together package, so I would say it was overpriced and perhaps other things are not as they are supposed to be..

breanach78 · 8 January 2012, 07:20 PM

should a 08 watch have the rolex rolex engraved on the inner bezel

padi56 · 8 January 2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelerfan65

enough to make me pass....

x2

z32turbo · 8 January 2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Enough to make me pass....

Agreed

London Gent · 8 January 2012, 12:46 PM

Thanks chaps.

I haven't seen the watch in person so this may be poorly executed photography / marketing.

I will take your advice on board and feed back once I have seen the watch.

I have the option of buying a flat 4 elsewhere as mentioned above, are these any rarer and will they hold there value better if so. I am most certainly not buying an LV as an 'investment' ( I agree with the prevailing sentiment on this forum that modern rolexes will most likely not realise an actual roi)

It would however be nice to know I owned something a little more collectible than a standard post 2004 LV.

Thanks again for your help and advice.

mike · 8 January 2012, 12:50 PM

In addition to what has been mentioned the box is suspect to me.

Johny · 9 January 2012, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Gent

Thanks chaps.

I haven't seen the watch in person so this may be poorly executed photography / marketing.

I will take your advice on board and feed back once I have seen the watch.

I have the option of buying a flat 4 elsewhere as mentioned above, are these any rarer and will they hold there value better if so. I am most certainly not buying an LV as an 'investment' ( I agree with the prevailing sentiment on this forum that modern rolexes will most likely not realise an actual roi)

It would however be nice to know I owned something a little more collectible than a standard post 2004 LV.

Thanks again for your help and advice.

hi here is a pic of my less collectable post 2004 lv.

77T · 8 January 2012, 12:44 PM

Lume seems patina'd more than a 4 year old watch...

MoBe · 8 January 2012, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Gent

Hello everyone,

Hope you are all well.

I am keen to pull the trigger on this:

http://www.officialwatches.co.uk/rol...-16610-lv/1820

I am no expert but does everything seem in order with an LV from 2008 - ie no rehaut engraving, dial and box etc....

In addition I have the option of purchasing a 'flat 4' model from 2004 for £4750, is it worth paying more for this version??

Thanks in advance for your assistance and thoughts / comments.

I would not pay extra for a funny looking number four.

padi56 · 8 January 2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

I would not pay extra for a funny looking number four.

Have to agree but the Internet is a wonderful place for Rolex hype remember the infamous so called mistake or stick dial GMTs.

Mickey® · 9 January 2012, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree but the Internet is a wonderful place for Rolex hype remember the infamous so called mistake or stick dial GMTs.

Speed · 9 January 2012, 01:58 AM

Think about what makes you happy about a watch as well.

Some unsolicited advice.

Mickey® · 9 January 2012, 04:25 AM

Here is mine...worth nothing really with that 4...

Johny · 9 January 2012, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey®

Here is mine...worth nothing really with that 4...

London Gent · 9 January 2012, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

Relax.

Maybe I didn't articulate myself well enough.

I for one couldn't give a hoot about the shape of a number on a bezel insert.

I do however unfortunately have to keep in mind the potential to resell a watch without taking too much of a hit. I was under the impression from what I have read that the 'flat 4' y series was slightly more desirable because it was the first in the run and was released on or around the actual 50th year anniversary of the sub.

May I also take this opportunity to complement everyone on their great looking lv's in this thread - the nato looks fantastic.

wjk_glynn · 9 January 2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Gent

...I was under the impression from what I have read that the 'flat 4' y series was slightly more desirable because it was the first in the run and was released on or around the actual 50th year anniversary of the sub.

I'd agree with that comment

Karl.

MoBe · 9 January 2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Gent

Relax.

Maybe I didn't articulate myself well enough.

I for one couldn't give a hoot about the shape of a number on a bezel insert.

I do however unfortunately have to keep in mind the potential to resell a watch without taking too much of a hit. I was under the impression from what I have read that the 'flat 4' y series was slightly more desirable because it was the first in the run and was released on or around the actual 50th year anniversary of the sub.

May I also take this opportunity to complement everyone on their great looking lv's in this thread - the nato looks fantastic.

For those that buy into the hype about the rarity of this model the value may be greater but there fewer buyers for this watch and you pay a premium to buy it in the first place so I don`t see where the value lies.

rkim11 · 10 January 2012, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

For those that buy into the hype about the rarity of this model the value may be greater but there fewer buyers for this watch and you pay a premium to buy it in the first place so I don`t see where the value lies.

Fewer buyers? Really?

Johny · 10 January 2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Gent

Relax.

Maybe I didn't articulate myself well enough.

I for one couldn't give a hoot about the shape of a number on a bezel insert.

I do however unfortunately have to keep in mind the potential to resell a watch without taking too much of a hit. I was under the impression from what I have read that the 'flat 4' y series was slightly more desirable because it was the first in the run and was released on or around the actual 50th year anniversary of the sub.

May I also take this opportunity to complement everyone on their great looking lv's in this thread - the nato looks fantastic.

i'm rolling on the floor relaxing.

MoBe · 10 January 2012, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

i'm rolling on the floor relaxing.

Please don`t make me relax.

qwiklap · 9 January 2012, 02:44 PM

I think the rarest LV is the one that is still BNIB at an AD ... anyone know of one?

zeuloa · 9 January 2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwiklap

I think the rarest LV is the one that is still BNIB at an AD ... anyone know of one?

I saw one 5 months ago in Beaumont, TX. Don't remember the name of the AD but there is only 2 in town if you look it up on Rolex.com. Best price was $5700 (don't ask why I didn't buy it!)

zeuloa · 9 January 2012, 04:55 PM

I was in London about a month ago and saw one in Bond street, pre-owned for 5900 SP. Granted the price was probably a bit high due to location, this one is cheap enough to make me suspicious.

zeuloa · 9 January 2012, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeuloa

I was in London about a month ago and saw one in Bond street, pre-owned for 5900 SP. Granted the price was probably a bit high due to location, this one is cheap enough to make me suspicious.

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8 January 2012, 12:14 PM	#1
London Gent "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Posts: 196	16110 LV Advice Hello everyone, Hope you are all well. I am keen to pull the trigger on this: http://www.officialwatches.co.uk/rol...-16610-lv/1820 I am no expert but does everything seem in order with an LV from 2008 - ie no rehaut engraving, dial and box etc.... In addition I have the option of purchasing a 'flat 4' model from 2004 for £4750, is it worth paying more for this version?? Thanks in advance for your assistance and thoughts / comments.

8 January 2012, 12:33 PM	#3
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Have you seen these watches in person? If not, I wouldn't trust those pictures, because they look highly tweaked and as noted above the papers don't match the watch. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

8 January 2012, 12:34 PM	#4
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,009	Enough to make me pass.... __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

8 January 2012, 02:59 PM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Wrong box, wrong paperwork... Doesn't really say much for the put-together package, so I would say it was overpriced and perhaps other things are not as they are supposed to be.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 January 2012, 12:44 PM	#14
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,024	Lume seems patina'd more than a 4 year old watch... __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

8 January 2012, 12:25 PM	#2
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	Just saying. That is not a flat 4. On the warranty paper it says "14060M" which is a no date Sub. And that watch is not from 2008 as indicated in the ad. Just saying.

8 January 2012, 07:20 PM	#8
breanach78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ireland Watch: Just A Few... Posts: 171	should a 08 watch have the rolex rolex engraved on the inner bezel

8 January 2012, 12:46 PM	#11
London Gent "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London Posts: 196	Thanks chaps. I haven't seen the watch in person so this may be poorly executed photography / marketing. I will take your advice on board and feed back once I have seen the watch. I have the option of buying a flat 4 elsewhere as mentioned above, are these any rarer and will they hold there value better if so. I am most certainly not buying an LV as an 'investment' ( I agree with the prevailing sentiment on this forum that modern rolexes will most likely not realise an actual roi) It would however be nice to know I owned something a little more collectible than a standard post 2004 LV. Thanks again for your help and advice.

8 January 2012, 12:50 PM	#12
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	In addition to what has been mentioned the box is suspect to me.

9 January 2012, 01:58 AM	#18
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Think about what makes you happy about a watch as well. Some unsolicited advice.

9 January 2012, 04:25 AM	#19
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	Here is mine...worth nothing really with that 4...

9 January 2012, 02:44 PM	#27
qwiklap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: CT Location: Scottsdale, AZ Watch: Rolex 16710 Pepsi Posts: 157	I think the rarest LV is the one that is still BNIB at an AD ... anyone know of one?

9 January 2012, 04:55 PM	#29
zeuloa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jose Location: Here Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 2,232	I was in London about a month ago and saw one in Bond street, pre-owned for 5900 SP. Granted the price was probably a bit high due to location, this one is cheap enough to make me suspicious.

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