114060 Order thread

[Nigel1100]

Okay, I'm going to get this thread going.
Ordered today (Bristol, UK)10th March 2012.
Been given provisional delivery date of September 2012.

Add your order dates to this thread and we will see who gets there new Submariner first.

[GradyPhilpott]

Out of curiosity, did they require a deposit and, if so, do you mind telling us how much?

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by gradyphilpott

out of curiosity, did they require a deposit and, if so, do you mind telling us how much?

x2

[horseco]

I am anxious to know how well the 114060 will sell now that it will only be a few hundred less than a 116610...???

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by horseco

I am anxious to know how well the 114060 will sell now that it will only be a few hundred less than a 116610...???

A lot of people are wondering that, especially ADs.

I think it's a long shot.

My AD's staff think it will be a hit and will sell as well or better than the 14060M for all the same reasons that the 14060M sold. Of course, I don't think the Submariners were the hottest sellers in the line Rolex watches, including the Sub-Dates.

[Nigel1100]

They did want a deposit, so I left £500 with them. Also price is said to be £4930 including tax at 20%. AD will confirm price closer to release date.

I can't wait.

[bigrustypig]

Boring watch...it's the same Sub with a ceramic bezel. Not interested. I have the 14060M and very happy with it.

[king arthur]

As much as I really, really like the new Sub ND, I won't put my money down on it before I can try it in person.

[Cru Jones]

Rolex is basically saying "you want a Submariner, pay X".....The date is just an option for a little more. Up to the consumer if cyclops plus date is important, but, either way, it's a Submariner first and foremost.

I don't think just because they are priced similarly one will automatically opt for the date. There's something to be said for the symmetry and cleaner lines of the ND.

[steubi1]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Rolex is basically saying "you want a Submariner, pay X".....The date is just an option for a little more. Up to the consumer if cyclops plus date is important, but, either way, it's a Submariner first and foremost.

I don't think just because they are priced similarly one will automatically opt for the date. There's something to be said for the symmetry and cleaner lines of the ND.

Agree 100%.

The new Sub 114060 has a symmetrical dial with the beauty of it's lume that cannot be beaten. Unfortunately I need a date, otherwise I would immediately go for the Sub ND because of its beauty!

Tom

[bwalker]

How long do orders typically take on *current* models? I went to the AD to put a deposit down on a 116610LV... He didn't give me a really good answer on when mine would be in. Sounds like 4 - 6 weeks... Seems so far off.

[Nigel1100]

Originally Posted by steubi1

Agree 100%.

The new Sub 114060 has a symmetrical dial with the beauty of it's lume that cannot be beaten. Unfortunately I need a date, otherwise I would immediately go for the Sub ND because of its beauty!

Tom

I went for the non date as I wanted something different from my other watches:
Omega planet ocean
IWC Aquatimer
IWC mark 16
Breitling colt superocean
Bell & Ross 123 vintage.

I did look at the 14060 but I was disappointed with the clasp. I know there are a lot of people who are not impressed with the new Sub, but for me it delivers what I need.
Now roll on September, unless it comes in earlier.

[karmatp]

I just don't understand placing a order. I just call my AD and say "put me down for one when they arrive". I never give them money before I get the watch, and I would never pay the MSRP once it arrives.

[z32turbo]

Originally Posted by karmatp

I just don't understand placing a order. I just call my AD and say "put me down for one when they arrive". I never give them money before I get the watch, and I would never pay the MSRP once it arrives.

I'd say you have a pretty good relationship with your AD.

[esm]

Originally Posted by Nigel1100

They did want a deposit, so I left £500 with them. Also price is said to be £4930 including tax at 20%. AD will confirm price closer to release date.

I can't wait.

So, if there is another price increase when it hits the ADs, will your AD till honor the £4930 price which you have secured by putting don a deposit for?

[Nigel1100]

Originally Posted by esm

So, if there is another price increase when it hits the ADs, will your AD till honor the £4930 price which you have secured by putting don a deposit for?

No, this is due to the price not being official. We did agree that if I'm not happy with either the final price or watch, I will get my deposit back, which I thought was fair.
The AD is confident that the final price will be released soon, so if I hear anything I will post it.

I'm hoping that the Government reduces vat in the budget, but there is more likelihood of the Locus Ness monster being found.

[Higham5]

I think you mean Loch Ness

[esm]

Originally Posted by Nigel1100

No, this is due to the price not being official. We did agree that if I'm not happy with either the final price or watch, I will get my deposit back, which I thought was fair.
The AD is confident that the final price will be released soon, so if I hear anything I will post it.

I'm hoping that the Government reduces vat in the budget, but there is more likelihood of the Locus Ness monster being found.

So, let's say your AD gets the official MSRP for now and the deposit is put against that figure, will your AD still honor that if there is a price increase between now and the release date?

(it has happened before, hence almost every AD will not take deposit to "lock in the price")

[PeterT]

I was bitten by the price rise for the new Exp II 42 last year.
When it was announced, it was one price but when it arrived in the UK shops the price had risen for no good reason.

At the time it was thought that a UK Rolex price rise was on the cards and the new watch was being released at the inflated price and then the rest of the range were going to follow on. Here in the UK, the price rise did not occur and so the Exp II 42 seems expensive compared to GMT and Sub.

Peter

[esm]

Originally Posted by PeterT

I was bitten by the price rise for the new Exp II 42 last year.
When it was announced, it was one price but when it arrived in the UK shops the price had risen for no good reason.

At the time it was thought that a UK Rolex price rise was on the cards and the new watch was being released at the inflated price and then the rest of the range were going to follow on. Here in the UK, the price rise did not occur and so the Exp II 42 seems expensive compared to GMT and Sub.

Peter

Yep, I was on three lists and none of them were willing to take deposit...

[Time2time]

Strange that you had to put a deposit down.

When I put myself down for the Sub-C I just rang around and put my name on waiting lists. No deposit.

When one came in the AD rang and asked me if I wanted it.
I went straight to the AD and bought it.

[gregmoeck]

i got on a list today, left CC number, promised list price

[itchy243mhz]

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

i got on a list today, left CC number, promised list price

What was the promised list price, if you don't mind me asking Greg?

[GradyPhilpott]

Money talks.

I put down 50% on both my 116200 and my 14060M.

The ADs probably won't need a lot of incentive, beyond that which Rolex provides, to stock the reference, but having some money on the line never hurts to make sure you're the one that gets the call.

[Nigel1100]

Latest update:
Voicemail left for me today 25th March.
Price has now been quoted at £4960 including vat at 20%.
Delivery quoted as July.

The wait continues...

[mopsey]

I was at AD on Friday and went on the waiting list for 14060M. Not sure I'll be successful as they're as rare as rocking horse s**t in UK ADs.
I tried the Sub C date but it seemed big and cumbersome. I hope the 114060C seems less so.

[Nigel1100]

Originally Posted by mopsey

I was at AD on Friday and went on the waiting list for 14060M. Not sure I'll be successful as they're as rare as rocking horse s**t in UK ADs.
I tried the Sub C date but it seemed big and cumbersome. I hope the 114060C seems less so.

I know that there was a 14060m at Mappin and Webb in Bristol about a month or so ago. It might be worth your while giving them a call and see if it is still there.
Ask for Mo, he's very helpful.

[mopsey]

Originally Posted by Nigel1100

I know that there was a 14060m at Mappin and Webb in Bristol about a month or so ago. It might be worth your while giving them a call and see if it is still there.
Ask for Mo, he's very helpful.

Cheers.
In fairness I tried on a couple of others that really hit the spot, one being DJII 116334 so if the sub doesn't come off I've options.

[SSG215]

I'm on the waitlist, but AD either didn't have it or forgot to call me back, with the release date. Anyone out there heard rumblings when this should hit the shelves stateside?

[gwalker]

Originally Posted by SSG215

I'm on the waitlist, but AD either didn't have it or forgot to call me back, with the release date. Anyone out there heard rumblings when this should hit the shelves stateside?

In the US I expect it to be released around the same time New models always start to show up. Usually Sept or later. I had my DSSD on order from about a month after Basel and got it the first or second week in Sept 08 and it was the first one that AD received. Some ADs may not get the new models until close to Christmas. That was the case with the ExpIIs last year too. From what I've been told by ADs I buy from the new models generally just show up. They don't have much of a heads up before the models arrive.

The 3 ADs I do business with have more requests for the YM and DJ than the 114060. 1 has 2 deposits for a SkyDweller and only 1 for the ND SubC whack has really shocked me. I don think it will come close to the sales of the 116610. I think it's a huge improvement over the 14060 as it was very dated IMHO but just don't see it being a huge seller but I'm sure it will sell ok but for the price I see no reason not to get the date model. In recent years I've been told the date model has outsold the ND model by a 3-4x as many units sold. I don't know this as fact just what the ADs I use have told me. It will be a hot seller at first but after those that await release get theirs I think it will sell less than the GMTII, SubC date, and ExpII. I could be off but I don't see it flying off the shelves.