Hulk kept in safe at mayors Orlando

[RicFlair]

Why not on display I asked.... She replied they're tough to come by so we hold one in our safe. Anyone encounter this?

This was at their exclusive Rolex upstairs store. They only had one there.

[gwalker]

That's the case at almost every AD. I've seen some safes and they have the hard to get peices but they go to the repeat customers first. Ive seen safes with multiple SS Daytonas, Exp IIs when they were hot, LVs, etc at the same time. Normal practice.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by gwalker

That's the case at almost every AD. I've seen some safes and they have the hard to get peices but they go to the repeat customers first. Ive seen safes with multiple SS Daytonas, Exp IIs when they were hot, LVs, etc at the same time. Normal practice.

X2

Yep, this is how I was able to get my SS Daytona a couple of years ago. It was in the safe and not on display. I asked and was rather persistent about wanting one. Although he claimed they didn't have one at first, he checked their records because I told him about some other watches I purchased recently and 15 minutes later he walked out with one. I know he checked their records (store was part of a chain were I had frequented the other location) and I was able to get it at retail of course.

[gwalker]

Originally Posted by dddrees

X2

Yep, this is how I was able to get my SS Daytona a couple of years ago. It was in the safe and not on display. I asked and was rather persistent about wanting one. Although he claimed they didn't have one at first, he checked their records because I told him about some other watches I purchased recently and 15 minutes later he walked out with one. I know he checked their records (store was part of a chain were I had frequented the other location) and I was able to get it at retail of course.

I was at an AD (Torneau) about a month ago and asked about SS Daytonas and LV. Claimed they didn't have either but after talking with me for 20 min a LV and SS Daytona appeared. Hmmmmm. I've seen a SS Daytona in probably 75% of the ADs I've been in lately. The LV is still a harder find for me but can be done.

[Melanotaenia]

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

Let me know if you really want it and I will talk to Steven... He just got back from Switzerland. The piece can be yours tomorrow ;-)

[mjclark32]

Originally Posted by FremStar

Let me know if you really want it and I will talk to Steven... He just got back from Switzerland. The piece can be yours tomorrow ;-)

Sam the (watch) matchmaker. You've got all the right connections to enable!

[pietermann]

At my AD, I see a hulk every time I passes the window!
To bad I want a black sub c

[FremStar]

Originally Posted by jay1988

If someone had spoken to me like that, they wouldn't be my AD any more.

Blackmailing you into buying a watch you don't want just so you can get the watch you do want.

Disgusting customer service.

If there's a shortage of something put it on a waiting list. If it's discontinued then up the price.

Jay, this is not blackmailing and is quite standard practice from many AD's in large metro areas. Not to divert from the topic at hand, however, let's put it this way. I currently own 2 Patek pieces that were purchased at an AD and to purchase the Patek I had my eye on I had to fill out an application that was short of asking me my blood type. This is mandated by Patek and there is no way around this when purchasing this specific model from an AD. The piece I want is not one that is currently stocked in any of the shops. Needless to say I am on a waiting list!

Originally Posted by mjclark32

Sam the (watch) matchmaker. You've got all the right connections to enable!

Hahahaha ;-) it's all about the relationships Clark. With only 3 Rolex AD's in NYC it's a very small watch community here.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by FremStar

Jay, this is not blackmailing and is quite standard practice from many AD's in large metro areas. Not to divert from the topic at hand, however, let's put it this way. I currently own 2 Patek pieces that were purchased at an AD and to purchase the Patek I had my eye on I had to fill out an application that was short of asking me my blood type. This is mandated by Patek and there is no way around this when purchasing this specific model from an AD. The piece I want is not one that is currently stocked in any of the shops. Needless to say I am on a waiting list!



Hahahaha ;-) it's all about the relationships Clark. With only 3 Rolex AD's in NYC it's a very small watch community here.

In the luxury watch market their are watches that sell themselves and there are people who consider themselves very fortunate if given the opportunity to purhase them because they are so rare. When considering the world wide market some of these are truly very limited and this is the way a luxury item often justifies it's higher cost. Some people are extended more prefference than others. With anything so rare not everybody even gets the oportunity to be on the waiting list.

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by FremStar

Jay, this is not blackmailing and is quite standard practice from many AD's in large metro areas. Not to divert from the topic at hand, however, let's put it this way. I currently own 2 Patek pieces that were purchased at an AD and to purchase the Patek I had my eye on I had to fill out an application that was short of asking me my blood type. This is mandated by Patek and there is no way around this when purchasing this specific model from an AD. The piece I want is not one that is currently stocked in any of the shops. Needless to say I am on a waiting list!



Hahahaha ;-) it's all about the relationships Clark. With only 3 Rolex AD's in NYC it's a very small watch community here.

Ah I see. I guess he could also sell the second watch for not much of a loss with it being BNIB.

Wow 3 Pateks on the way ? From your other posts it appears you're a professor correct ? The nicest watch I've ever seen on one of my professors is a Longines. May have to change my career if teaching is so lucrative

[snaggle]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

I find it funny and ridiculous how they would tell you that you must buy another unpopular rolex just to get the hulk, I laughed quite a bit when I read that

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

If someone had spoken to me like that, they wouldn't be my AD any more.

Blackmailing you into buying a watch you don't want just so you can get the watch you do want.

Disgusting customer service.

If there's a shortage of something put it on a waiting list. If it's discontinued then up the price.

[swiss ghost]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

wow, is it me or all US AD's crazy?

there is absolutely NOTHING special whatsoever about the sub c LV. They are a dime a dozen. I can have 5 today if i choose to do so. This thread is ridonkulous!

[Cuinne]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

Well, this might not be "blackmail" per se, but it is a deplorably coercive sales tactic. This is not a rare watch. Personally, I would never do business with a dealer who actually operates in such a manner, and I cannot understand why anyone would defend or tolerate it. YMMV.

[swiss ghost]

Originally Posted by Cuinne

Well, this might not be "blackmail" per se, but it is a deplorably coercive sales tactic. This is not a rare watch. Personally, I would never do business with dealer who actually operates in such a manner, and I cannot understand why anyone would defend or tolerate it. YMMV.

x 2

ALWAYS another AD






ALWAYS

[bayerische]

Same in Helsinki. Never seen one in the window. They do have some in the safe, but all are always spoken for.

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Same in Helsinki. Never seen one in the window. They do have some in the safe, but all are always spoken for.

Strange, the Gothenburg AD has the Hulk, SS Daytona, Explorer II and many others in the window all the time.

[swiss ghost]

this thread is insane

perception is not reality in the LVs case. They are NOT a rare piece.

[mikkolopez]

i guess when a model gets too much demand with limited supply, it happens that ADs keep it for their valued customers who can pay SRP (no discount) for the piece. While I am a regular at my AD, i don't see myself going after a piece like this.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by RicFlair

Why not on display I asked.... She replied they're tough to come by so we hold one in our safe. Anyone encounter this?

This was at their exclusive Rolex upstairs store. They only had one there.

They like to do that sort of thing at that location. When the new ex42 was scarce I could have bought 3 from them, in fact I know of someone who bought 4 from them all at once before they were at any other location.

There is a Lvc and an ex2 42 at the other Orlando Mayor's location in the case.

[SaddleSC]

Sounds like an experience that I had recently. I wore my LVC into the AD and they told me that there was a waiting list for the Hulk. The owner then proceeded to pull a white dial and a black dial SS Daytona out on the counter. From what I have seen lately, the Hulk seems to be rarer in the US than the Daytona these days.

[Runnin' Rebel]

My AD proudly display's the LV right in front of the case

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by Melanotaenia

Yes...the one AD I do business with in NYC has one and also keeps it in the safe. They said they would only sell to me if I bought a second less popular DJ model along with it. And, no discount on either watch. This was taking into account I know the store managers too :(

This is ridiculous! Very sad way to sell any product in my opinion.

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by zeuloa

This is ridiculous! Very sad way to sell any product in my opinion.

For a lot of ADs this is the way they make their regular customers feel special. So for those who frequent an AD more often I am sure those people who are afforded this privlege appreciate being able to find more rare or harder watches to get a good thing.

Besides I'm sure if you try hard enough those who don't frequent that often can find this one and others pretty easy somewhere else.

It's just the way things are.

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by dddrees

For a lot of ADs this is the way they make their regular customers feel special. So for those who frequent an AD more often I am sure those people who are afforded this privlege appreciate being able to find more rare or harder watches to get a good thing.

Besides I'm sure if you try hard enough those who don't frequent that often can find this one and others pretty easy somewhere else.

It's just the way things are.

First of all this is not a rare watch by any means. It might be a bit harder to find than other models but it's not rare.

I understand that ADs save harder to get pieces for their most loyal customers, but asking someone to buy a second watch so that they can have the one they want is just idiotic, and whoever gives in to this practice might as well be an idiot too.

[azguy]

I understand taking care of loyal customers but if the watch is there at the AD it's unsold and open to anyone...I don't buy this loyal customer excuse; I think they are just playing some sort of game.

I Look at it this way, Hulk comes in, as the AD I must have a couple dozen names to call, if after a week or so I still have the watch, I'm selling it to whoever wants it

Just the suggestion that an additional watch would need to be purchased is repulsing and almost turns me off of Rolex I think that AD should be reported to Rolex....

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by azguy

I understand taking care of loyal customers but if the watch is there at the AD it's unsold and open to anyone...I don't buy this loyal customer excuse; I think they are just playing some sort of game.

I Look at it this way, Hulk comes in, as the AD I must have a couple dozen names to call, if after a week or so I still have the watch, I'm selling it to whoever wants it

Just the suggestion that an additional watch would need to be purchased is repulsing and almost turns me off of Rolex I think that AD should be reported to Rolex....

This is not only something that they do with Rolex watches, it's done with other brands as well.

I'm sure there is a number of reasons for this and it really does depend on the AD, what they have, what they have the ability to get, and how much display space they have. But then again it isn't that uncommon to see.

Keep in mind the AD is in business to sell watches and will do their best to sell all of them as quickly as they can but also remember they need to not only sell now but in the future as well.

I have to imagine this envolves other things as well. Such as the type of clientele or customer that they tend to see. The one that comes in and will only browse and never buy, the one that has never bought a luxury watch and is looking to buy without even knowing what is availible in the first place, and the one that is a repeat customer who is educated and is aware of what is out there. The one that has never bought just may buy a less popular watch. I'm sure there are more examples but you get the idea.

Then you have your stock. The watches which don't sell as fast because of popularity or price, the popular and abundant watches, and the rarer and harder to get watches.

So the bottom line is how do I take all of this and potentialy more factors and sell now to meet payroll and profit, and how to sell in the long run and remain as profitable as I possibly can for a very long time.

It maybe too bad they can't be more like a regular run of the mill retailer like Walmart and force their suppliers to provide them with the lowest priced goods in the largest quantities and still remain in business.

Hopefully someone like the GMTMaster will be along shortly and give us an opinion from someone who actualy works on the inside.

[rohardi]

An AD here in RI has 2 LVs, a white and black Explorer 2 42mm, and a white SS Daytona in their display case if anyone is interested...

[Wisconsin Proud]

ADs in Wisconsin aren't quite as snooty......if it's for sale, it's in the case.