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19 April 2012, 04:13 PM
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help me check this sub date out
Im sure I could get more photos if needed. It is for sale locally, and yes i am interested. Thanks for any help.
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19 April 2012, 09:02 PM
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Real Name: Mr. Bill
Location: South Florida
Watch: 16610
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The lugs look off. At 6 o'clock right lug is shorter than left. The bracelet has a lot of stretch.
I would pass. 
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19 April 2012, 09:17 PM
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Location: Sydney
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The crystal (or maybe glass) looks off as do the gaps in the bracelet. Very suspicious therefore fake IMO.
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20 April 2012, 12:53 AM
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It appears good. Since you have the paperwork and tag, you should be able to remove the bracelet and verify the serial number.
The dial appears proper for the time period "Swiss Made" but I would prefer to see a close up of that area of the dial. Hopefully the price is good for you! |
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20 April 2012, 03:12 AM
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Open de case and see the movment.
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20 April 2012, 04:28 AM
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Real Name: Alex
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Watch: GMT 16710 w/ 3186
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Looks good to me...lots of wear though, numbers in between the lugs will say it all
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20 April 2012, 04:47 AM
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Real Name: tom
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would tend to sugest its genuine ,,, but its scruffy , id pass on by , and find something that you would be happier to own.
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20 April 2012, 10:52 AM
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Looks genuine, but a bit beat up, I'd pass on this one.
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20 April 2012, 11:55 AM
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I agree, the watch looks genuine and if the price is right - buy it!!! (Nice, complete, circa 2000 Subs are selling for around $4400-$4800.)
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20 April 2012, 05:04 PM
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The papers are genuine , if the numbers between the lugs match. Your looking good. I can't see anything that stands out that looks fake.
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20 April 2012, 06:20 PM
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Real Name: Andreas
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Watch: Smurf
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Solid end links? On a P-serie?
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20 April 2012, 08:08 PM
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20 April 2012, 07:17 PM
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I'd pass.
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20 April 2012, 09:34 PM
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Real Name: Andreas
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Watch: Smurf
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MoBe, you are right, was it around 2000 this changed?
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21 April 2012, 02:48 PM
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this is an easy fake
93250 on P serial? I might be wrong but isnt it supposed to be 93150?
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22 April 2012, 12:41 AM
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Quote:
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22 April 2012, 01:43 AM
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Prior to the P series the bracelet is 93150 with 501B End Links.
The 93250 has SEL's and were fitted with the P and after. Here are 2 pictures. |
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21 April 2012, 10:30 PM
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Real Name: Greg
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Both watch and band look good to me.
The band is not in good condition, take that into account. |
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21 April 2012, 10:30 PM
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"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Real Name: Greg
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Both watch and band look good to me.
The band is not in good condition, take that into account. |
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