Sending a watch to Canada...

[2th Dr]

Ok, so I sold a $375 watch (on a different forum) to a guy in Canada. He just received it, and is complaining that he had to pay import taxes on it ($50 he says), and wants ME to pay him for it! Does this sound fair? I don't think so. I specifically said on my FS thread that I was selling CONUS only, but he wanted the watch so I agreed to ship, and I ate the international shipping cost.

[Wolfgang427]

Not fair at all. I've sold to Canada before and every buyer paid the import tax.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by wolfgang427

Not fair at all. I've sold to Canada before and every buyer paid the import tax.

I just told him if he's not happy, he can send the watch back, but this should be at his expense and the refund to him should be MINUS my cost to ship to him originally, correct?

[azguy]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

I specifically said on my FS thread that I was selling CONUS only, but he wanted the watch so I agreed to ship, and I ate the international shipping cost.

don't break your own rules, I assume you have them for a reason

[rolexgiants]

Originally Posted by azguy

don't break your own rules, I assume you have them for a reason

Agreed... He says CONUS... Then decides to break his own rules... Makes ZERO sense!!!! Then complain about it here...

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

Agreed... He says CONUS... Then decides to break his own rules... Makes ZERO sense!!!! Then complain about it here...

Ah, no less of a response than I would expect from you...
I'm not complaining, I'm asking for opinions (sans yours).

[rolexgiants]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

Ah, no less of a response than I would expect from you...
I'm not complaining, I'm asking for opinions (sans yours).

You seem very SHORT minded and hostile... U ask for opinions.... Then u go on attack mode... Have a nice day anyway!

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

You seem very SHORT minded and hostile... U ask for opinions.... Then u go on attack mode... Have a nice day anyway!

Only with you, because no matter what I've ever posted that you respond to, your response is always negative. Don't believe me? Go back and look. But I digress. You have a nice day too.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

Agreed... He says CONUS... Then decides to break his own rules... Makes ZERO sense!!!! Then complain about it here...

nope dont see any complaining. i can see opinions being asked for.

[conrail]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

Agreed... He says CONUS... Then decides to break his own rules... Makes ZERO sense!!!! Then complain about it here...

Calm down.

He made an accommodating exception to his rules, is getting unwarranted flak from an apparently unsophisticated buyer, and now wants the forum's opinion.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by conrail

Calm down.

He made an accommodating exception to his rules, is getting unwarranted flak from an apparently unsophisticated buyer, and now wants the forum's opinion.

well said.

[Dr. Robert]

That's why I don't ship out of the USA....too much hassel...I'm not in the export biz.

[2th Dr]

It's kinda funny, but there's usually no issues buying/selling high end watches, at least for me, but when it comes to an inexpensive watch, some buyers can be very difficult. I know some may argue that what is cheap to one person may not be cheap to someone else, but I'm just relatively speaking, of course.

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

It's kinda funny, but there's usually no issues buying/selling high end watches, at least for me, but when it comes to an inexpensive watch, some buyers can be very difficult.

I totally agree! I have been involved in many hassle-free transactions for Rolex and Panerai, but the biggest headaches are always when I am selling Seikos, G Shocks, etc.

[daveathall]

Buyer pays his own customs duties, how can he think it fair that a person from another country pays tax to a foreign country?

Seems like buyers remorse to me, don't entertain him, don't have the watch back either. Sold. Period.

[A.J.R.]

The buyer should have known that there was going to be some sort of importation tax involved. Personally I think they are playing dumb to screw you out of another fifty dollars.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Buyer pays his own customs duties, how can he think it fair that a person from another country pays tax to a foreign country?

Seems like buyers remorse to me, don't entertain him, don't have the watch back either. Sold. Period.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by A.J.R.

The buyer should have known that there was going to be some sort of importation tax involved. Personally I think they are playing dumb to screw you out of another fifty dollars.

Again, agreed.

[blassy]

I live in Canada and buy plenty of US good including watches. My wife buys so many purses that the delivery guy and I are on a first name basis.
As a Canadian you KNOW you are going to be charged taxes, brokerage fees upon receipt. If you don't know, you do now.
Not your problem at this point....he should have known by doing some pretty simple research.

[CDNWatchNut]

That's completely bogus on the buyer's part and regretfully just adds one more reason why people put CONUS only on their listings. (although please remember ...not all of us up here in Canada are like your buyer)
Anyone old enough to buy a watch internationally ought to know there is duty to be paid upon importation, and if they don't, then tough luck for them, not the seller.
If you offered a refund less all of your costs, that would be generous.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by CDNWatchNut

That's completely bogus on the buyer's part and regretfully just adds one more reason why people put CONUS only on their listings. (although please remember ...not all of us up here in Canada are like your buyer)
Anyone old enough to buy a watch from overseas ought to know there is duty to be paid upon importation, and if they don't, then tough luck for them, not the seller.
If you offered a refund less all of your costs, that would be generous.

This I know, as around the same time, I sold a more expensive watch to another Great White North buyer, without a hitch.

[conrail]

Unless you agreed in advance to cover the import costs, then those are on him, as they are on every buyer 99% of the time. You made an exception for him and even paid the extra shipping costs associated with shipping to Canada.

If it is within your return policy, you can offer him a refund. Otherwise

[Rolesor]

Every Canadian knows there is a risk of import tax on an item purchased and shipped from the US. He is basically implying that he wanted you to lie about the value of the contents inside to ensure he paid less duty.

If no "arrangements" were made then he knew full well he'd likely have to pay something..

[Noonan]

I've sent watches and pens to Canada without issue. I've seen threads like this in the past so I always make sure to put "customs/taxes at the risk of the buyer" to cover myself. I would offer a refund, no way would I agree to pay their import taxes.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by Noonan

I've sent watches and pens to Canada without issue. I've seen threads like this in the past so I always make sure to put "customs/taxes at the risk of the buyer" to cover myself. I would offer a refund, no way would I agree to pay their import taxes.

I did offer a refund, but he complained about that too, saying it would cost him additional money to send it back.

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by 2th DR

I did offer a refund, but he complained about that too, saying it would cost him additional money to send it back.

That's that. You offered, he declined. The end. Save the email, or get it in writing, in case he attempts to defame your good name on the other forum.
I'm guessing buyers remorse, or stupidity. Actually, probably both.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

That's that. You offered, he declined. The end. Save the email, or get it in writing, in case he attempts to defame your good name on the other forum.
I'm guessing buyers remorse, or stupidity. Actually, probably both.

I have the PM's saved, just in case he tries that. Funny, he never even mentions ANYTHING about the watch itself, not that he could... It's in pristine condition and he got a great price on it.

[cornerstore]

Import Duty is minimal,it looks like the buyer got hit with Sales Tax,amount of sales tax collected varies by Provence of residence just as it varies by State in USA.You'd pay sales tax if you bought the watch in Country from a dealer ,so it is a cost of purchase.Duties are minimal to non existent on watches coming into Canada and generally not often collected .

[rolexgiants]

And by the way... I happen to think there is blame on both sides... More him than u...

[Maxtor]

In Ontario you expect to pay 13% GST (goods and services taxes) and 6% import duty.

That's the deal.

I appreciate that many US and international sellers will ship to Canada and I don't make our regulations their problem. Lots of good buyers in Canada.

[2th Dr]

Originally Posted by Maxtor

In Ontario you expect to pay 13% GST (goods and services taxes) and 6% import duty.

That's the deal.

I appreciate that many US and international sellers will ship to Canada and I don't make our regulations their problem. Lots of good buyers in Canada.

Sounds like that's pretty much what he ended up paying.