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Tralfaz · 9 October 2007, 12:09 PM

Hello!

I'm a new member (just found this forum) and figured my first post ought to be a good one.

So....

A friend of mine just laid his hands on a 1950s era Submariner. The dial is marked 100m=330 ft, Submariner. The weird part is that the hour chapters are all Arabic numerals (1 thru 12) in a sort of German or Gothic type font. (I'll try to post a photo anon).

I've never heard of this and thought I'd toss it out there to those more knowledgeable than I am. Has anyone every heard of such a thing?

Thanks in advance!

Tralfaz

mike · 9 October 2007, 12:14 PM

Welcome!

Several early references used 3-6-9 dials. I can't think of one that used all arabics.

Tralfaz · 9 October 2007, 12:25 PM

Thanks!

I'm aware of those early 3-6-9 dials (for a military contract, I believe).

It's the full-Arabic thing that's really got me stumped!

Tools · 9 October 2007, 12:33 PM

wow,

A pic will definitely be nice...

Downing · 9 October 2007, 12:39 PM

Welcome to TRF, Tralfaz.

I don't see a full Arabic dial Sub referenced in Vintage Rolex Sports Models, so I can't help you, sorry. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, though, so hopefully one will be along shortly.

In the meantime, a photo would be great.

Lobo · 9 October 2007, 01:30 PM

Arabic dial in a Sub? No way... Not original!
Best regards, Lobo.

SPACE-DWELLER · 9 October 2007, 07:14 PM

Welcome to TRF!

Searched through the many pics of Subs in the books "2421 Rolex-Uhren" by Kesaharu Imai.

He pretty much shows ALL different types of dial, but NONE of Sub dials had arabic numerals ALL the way around the dial. Only at 3, 6 and 9 on the Military Issue Sub.

So I am afraid it is a fake

jac67 · 9 October 2007, 09:44 PM

Re-finished dial FOR SURE!

Sorry.

John.

mike · 10 October 2007, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jac67

Re-finished dial FOR SURE!

Sorry.

John.

Yeah, my thought too.

txrob779 · 10 October 2007, 05:36 AM

chanting......
PIC CHU PIC CHU PIC CHU.......snap a pic main....

dodyj27 · 10 October 2007, 08:37 AM

Impossible to be original Rolex dial, for sure refinished...

Vintage submariner models came only with 3,6 and 9 Arabic Numerals!!!

9 October 2007, 12:09 PM	#1
Tralfaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2	Early Submariner with Arabic dial? Hello! I'm a new member (just found this forum) and figured my first post ought to be a good one. So.... A friend of mine just laid his hands on a 1950s era Submariner. The dial is marked 100m=330 ft, Submariner. The weird part is that the hour chapters are all Arabic numerals (1 thru 12) in a sort of German or Gothic type font. (I'll try to post a photo anon). I've never heard of this and thought I'd toss it out there to those more knowledgeable than I am. Has anyone every heard of such a thing? Thanks in advance! Tralfaz

9 October 2007, 12:39 PM	#5
Downing "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Downing Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: SD ExpII GO Nav ND Posts: 1,640	Welcome to TRF, Tralfaz. I don't see a full Arabic dial Sub referenced in Vintage Rolex Sports Models, so I can't help you, sorry. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here, though, so hopefully one will be along shortly. In the meantime, a photo would be great. __________________ One if by land, one if by sea, one if by air and one uh, just to tell time. Rolex Explorer II White Rolex Sea-Dweller Glashütte Original Navigator Panerai 183 G Black Seal

9 October 2007, 07:14 PM	#7
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! Searched through the many pics of Subs in the books "2421 Rolex-Uhren" by Kesaharu Imai. He pretty much shows ALL different types of dial, but NONE of Sub dials had arabic numerals ALL the way around the dial. Only at 3, 6 and 9 on the Military Issue Sub. So I am afraid it is a fake __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

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9 October 2007, 12:14 PM	#2
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Welcome! Several early references used 3-6-9 dials. I can't think of one that used all arabics.

9 October 2007, 12:25 PM	#3
Tralfaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2	Thanks! I'm aware of those early 3-6-9 dials (for a military contract, I believe). It's the full-Arabic thing that's really got me stumped!

9 October 2007, 12:33 PM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	wow, A pic will definitely be nice...

9 October 2007, 01:30 PM	#6
Lobo Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 57	Arabic dial in a Sub? No way... Not original! Best regards, Lobo.

9 October 2007, 09:44 PM	#8
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Re-finished dial FOR SURE! Sorry. John.

10 October 2007, 05:36 AM	#10
txrob779 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Ft.Worth, Texas Posts: 488	chanting...... PIC CHU PIC CHU PIC CHU.......snap a pic main....

10 October 2007, 08:37 AM	#11
dodyj27 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Faisal Location: SA Watch: hmmmm.. Posts: 28	Impossible to be original Rolex dial, for sure refinished... Vintage submariner models came only with 3,6 and 9 Arabic Numerals!!!

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