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jlc123 · 1 January 2013, 07:39 PM

I just struck a deal and should have the funds for my first Rolex within a few hours

. So my options are:
Explorer 14270 or 114270:
Pros-
Classic
Good size for my 6.5 inch wrist
Black dial to go with my white dial JLC
Understated
Easy to find under 4k
Pros-
Explorer 2 16570 Polar:
Stunning
GMT is useful and its nice to have a complication
Understated
Moderately easy to find under 4k
Cons-
Cyclops
No Date Sub:
Pros-
Classic
Beautiful
THE Rolex
Cons-
Flashy
Common
Hard to find under 4k
Right now I'm leaning towards an Explorer, either one. Which would you guys pick with a strict 4k USD budget? Thanks and Happy New Year!!!

dysondiver · 1 January 2013, 08:03 PM

tough choice , i think the eplorer1 is a classic that will live beside anything you get in the future , where as a exp2 or a sub would be a flipper ... so ,, as a watch to keep , has to be an explorer 1 ,,, the older 36mm one would be a great wrist size too.

Explorertwo · 1 January 2013, 08:39 PM

All three are great, my considerations:
The 114270 has new features like the bracelet and is a great classic piece. The sub is indeed more common, but that's 'cause it's an iconic piece! The bezel is a usefull feature for timing. I love it!
But the exp 2 would be my choice as a one rolex option. It's very, very comfy, tough, under the radar and versitile, dressed up and down! My to go watch.
Good luck and keep us informed!

MYK · 1 January 2013, 08:52 PM

All three are great IMHO. I would go with the Explorer 36mm.

joe100 · 1 January 2013, 08:56 PM

Explorer 36mm. Really the best of the bunch in my opinion

franklin · 1 January 2013, 11:07 PM

Explorer I

Whiskeymike · 1 January 2013, 11:19 PM

Well, 2 weeks ago I had all 3.
I've since sold ( to friends) the ExII and the Sub ND.
Really like them both, but, to be honest, wasn't giving them much wear time.
In my case, the EXII can't do anything my GMT doesn't; the GMT is my first Rolex bought 15 years ago, so it's staying.

I have the EXI (36mm) on my wrist now.

gpfps · 2 January 2013, 12:02 AM

Non date sub flashy ? Best of the bunch.

capote · 2 January 2013, 12:15 AM

Like them all, you can't go wrong.

Rags · 2 January 2013, 12:39 AM

No date sub would be my choice. A classic watch.

subtona · 2 January 2013, 12:48 AM

as the others have said ... tough choice
i have all 3 and wouldn't like to give any of them up....although i did officially give the explorer I to my father, it was perfect for him!

that said, i would recommend the 14270, very understated and unique with the 3 6 9 dial.
it has a great fit and fits all situations, i prefer it over its newer replacement.
and most importantly, it has no "cons"

essentially your trying to choose between 3 keepers, can't lose

Flyfisher · 2 January 2013, 01:02 AM

Tough choices, but I would go with the no date sub.

I feel that the Exp & Exp II have been trumped by the newer releases (the Exp I less so than the II), but in many regards the case and lugs on the legacy Sub are preferred over the new style by many.

Lucky777 · 2 January 2013, 01:10 AM

I'd go Exp II for the date function. For a daily wearer I really use that function

datejusting · 2 January 2013, 01:58 AM

My first choice would be 114270, but you will not find one for 4K. Second choice would be sub but you will not find a decent one for 4k. Don't care for 14270. Third choice would be a datejust. Could get a nice datejust for 4k and it is good size for your 6.5 wrist.

jlc123 · 2 January 2013, 02:23 AM

Here's where I stand now: The sub is pretty much out. I am slightly favoring the Explorer 2, but am still interested in the Explorer 1. Thanks for all the great replies.

sea-dweller · 2 January 2013, 02:40 AM

I'd get the Explorer II.

Jim300186 · 2 January 2013, 02:42 AM

I'd go with the explorer 2, I have one and love it it was my first Rolex as well.

Armyguy03 · 2 January 2013, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sea-dweller

I'd get the Explorer II.

this!!!

Graillover · 2 January 2013, 02:58 AM

Explorer II best all around versatile watch

Rocco22 · 2 January 2013, 03:21 AM

You won't find a 114270 for 4k but you can find the 14270 so I would go that route if sticking to a 4k budget.

Osbong · 2 January 2013, 03:28 AM

ND sub for me!

gregvisser · 2 January 2013, 06:04 AM

Difficult decision since all 3 are great watches in their own rights. I'd go Exp II for versatility.

Greg

Time Exposure · 2 January 2013, 06:12 AM

EXPII.
I owned one, traded it for "The One," then bought another EXPII because I really missed it.
Now I'm on to other pastures, so the EXPII I couldn't live without will be up for sale soon (sorry to say it will not fit your budget!)

autisticlove · 2 January 2013, 07:09 AM

I've had all three, and kept only the Explorers (14270, 16570 black and polar). Although the Sub brought me to this great hobby, I just found it didn't speak to me nearly as much as any of my Explorers. I later picked up a PO which is filled my diver "needs" and thus far, I haven't had any regrets over selling the 14060M. Now, if a Sea-Dweller were to make its way into my hands, I can't say I'd shoo it away....

jedinite · 2 January 2013, 07:28 AM

Explorer II

incontrol · 2 January 2013, 07:57 AM

I vote polar white explorerII! Very comfy and looks awesome!

tomchicago · 2 January 2013, 08:38 AM

If 114270 fits your wrist, by all means I think that is the way to go. Cognoscenti's rollie.

Andrés G · 2 January 2013, 08:41 AM

I vote for the ExpII.

Ozzy12 · 2 January 2013, 08:46 AM

I've really wanted to like the ExpI but I'm continually disappointed every time I try. I'd go ND sub if its your first Rolex, that's the most classic/no regrets. The ExpII is nice, but it isn't a sub.

Best of luck though, and congrats on the impending purchase!

jlc123 · 3 January 2013, 07:08 AM

I am sad to report that the buyer dropped out of my sale, its back to waiting for a deal. But, soon enough, I will have a Rolex on my wrist.

1 January 2013, 07:39 PM	#1
jlc123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Watch: Overseas Posts: 992	Explorer vs. Explorer 2 vs. Sub I just struck a deal and should have the funds for my first Rolex within a few hours . So my options are: Explorer 14270 or 114270: Pros- Classic Good size for my 6.5 inch wrist Black dial to go with my white dial JLC Understated Easy to find under 4k Pros- Explorer 2 16570 Polar: Stunning GMT is useful and its nice to have a complication Understated Moderately easy to find under 4k Cons- Cyclops No Date Sub: Pros- Classic Beautiful THE Rolex Cons- Flashy Common Hard to find under 4k Right now I'm leaning towards an Explorer, either one. Which would you guys pick with a strict 4k USD budget? Thanks and Happy New Year!!!

1 January 2013, 08:56 PM	#5
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Explorer 36mm. Really the best of the bunch in my opinion __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

2 January 2013, 12:39 AM	#10
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	No date sub would be my choice. A classic watch. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

2 January 2013, 12:48 AM	#11
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,599	as the others have said ... tough choice i have all 3 and wouldn't like to give any of them up....although i did officially give the explorer I to my father, it was perfect for him! that said, i would recommend the 14270, very understated and unique with the 3 6 9 dial. it has a great fit and fits all situations, i prefer it over its newer replacement. and most importantly, it has no "cons" essentially your trying to choose between 3 keepers, can't lose __________________

2 January 2013, 07:09 AM	#24
autisticlove "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 58	I've had all three, and kept only the Explorers (14270, 16570 black and polar). Although the Sub brought me to this great hobby, I just found it didn't speak to me nearly as much as any of my Explorers. I later picked up a PO which is filled my diver "needs" and thus far, I haven't had any regrets over selling the 14060M. Now, if a Sea-Dweller were to make its way into my hands, I can't say I'd shoo it away.... __________________ Explorer, Explorer II Polar, Explorer II Noir, Speedmaster Pro .321, Speedmaster Pro 3594.50 Seamaster 600 Date, Aqua Terra 2503.33, Planet Ocean 42mm, Sinn 856 UTC, Damasko DA44 Black, Seiko SBDX001 Marinemaster, Seiko Alpinist, Smiths Prs-28a, Hamilton Khaki

1 January 2013, 08:03 PM	#2
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	tough choice , i think the eplorer1 is a classic that will live beside anything you get in the future , where as a exp2 or a sub would be a flipper ... so ,, as a watch to keep , has to be an explorer 1 ,,, the older 36mm one would be a great wrist size too.

1 January 2013, 08:39 PM	#3
Explorertwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Lowlands Watch: White 'n Black Posts: 641	All three are great, my considerations: The 114270 has new features like the bracelet and is a great classic piece. The sub is indeed more common, but that's 'cause it's an iconic piece! The bezel is a usefull feature for timing. I love it! But the exp 2 would be my choice as a one rolex option. It's very, very comfy, tough, under the radar and versitile, dressed up and down! My to go watch. Good luck and keep us informed!

1 January 2013, 08:52 PM	#4
MYK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Kuwait Watch: @kuwaitinglist Posts: 1,622	All three are great IMHO. I would go with the Explorer 36mm.

1 January 2013, 11:07 PM	#6
franklin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Manitoba Posts: 586	Explorer I

1 January 2013, 11:19 PM	#7
Whiskeymike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Bill Location: Kennesaw,Ga. Watch: GMT II;SS DJ Posts: 16	Well, 2 weeks ago I had all 3. I've since sold ( to friends) the ExII and the Sub ND. Really like them both, but, to be honest, wasn't giving them much wear time. In my case, the EXII can't do anything my GMT doesn't; the GMT is my first Rolex bought 15 years ago, so it's staying. I have the EXI (36mm) on my wrist now.

2 January 2013, 12:02 AM	#8
gpfps Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: George Location: Detroit Michigan Watch: 18078 Posts: 1,142	Non date sub flashy ? Best of the bunch.

2 January 2013, 12:15 AM	#9
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Like them all, you can't go wrong.

2 January 2013, 01:02 AM	#12
Flyfisher "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 237	Tough choices, but I would go with the no date sub. I feel that the Exp & Exp II have been trumped by the newer releases (the Exp I less so than the II), but in many regards the case and lugs on the legacy Sub are preferred over the new style by many.

2 January 2013, 01:10 AM	#13
Lucky777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: NJ Watch: Rolex 16610 Posts: 2,160	I'd go Exp II for the date function. For a daily wearer I really use that function

2 January 2013, 01:58 AM	#14
datejusting "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Al Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,153	My first choice would be 114270, but you will not find one for 4K. Second choice would be sub but you will not find a decent one for 4k. Don't care for 14270. Third choice would be a datejust. Could get a nice datejust for 4k and it is good size for your 6.5 wrist.

2 January 2013, 02:23 AM	#15
jlc123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Watch: Overseas Posts: 992	Here's where I stand now: The sub is pretty much out. I am slightly favoring the Explorer 2, but am still interested in the Explorer 1. Thanks for all the great replies.

2 January 2013, 02:40 AM	#16
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I'd get the Explorer II.

2 January 2013, 02:42 AM	#17
Jim300186 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Jamie Location: Alloa, Scotland Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 219	I'd go with the explorer 2, I have one and love it it was my first Rolex as well.

2 January 2013, 02:58 AM	#19
Graillover "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Kenn Location: Dallas Watch: DD II Posts: 32	Explorer II best all around versatile watch

2 January 2013, 03:21 AM	#20
Rocco22 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mass/Vegas/disney Watch: Hulk,114060,14060 Posts: 929	You won't find a 114270 for 4k but you can find the 14270 so I would go that route if sticking to a 4k budget.

2 January 2013, 03:28 AM	#21
Osbong "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Makatiyi Location: California Watch: Rolex, Omega Posts: 220	ND sub for me!

2 January 2013, 06:04 AM	#22
gregvisser 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Greg Visser Location: New Zealand Posts: 587	Difficult decision since all 3 are great watches in their own rights. I'd go Exp II for versatility. Greg

2 January 2013, 06:12 AM	#23
Time Exposure "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Bryan Location: Sac Valley, CA US Watch: Patek 5980/1A Posts: 2,860	EXPII. I owned one, traded it for "The One," then bought another EXPII because I really missed it. Now I'm on to other pastures, so the EXPII I couldn't live without will be up for sale soon (sorry to say it will not fit your budget!)

2 January 2013, 07:28 AM	#25
jedinite "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: TC Location: GMT -8 Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 582	Explorer II __________________ Tudor Submariner 76100/Rolex TT Submariner Blue X/Victorinox AirBoss Mach 6/Longines Grande Vitesse/Rolex SeaDweller DeepSea V/ GShock GW-3000B/ Tudor Prince Date 74034/ Rolex ExII 42 WD/ Rolex Submariner 116610 LV/ Tudor Pelagos Blue

2 January 2013, 07:57 AM	#26
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	I vote polar white explorerII! Very comfy and looks awesome! __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

2 January 2013, 08:38 AM	#27
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	If 114270 fits your wrist, by all means I think that is the way to go. Cognoscenti's rollie.

2 January 2013, 08:41 AM	#28
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,392	I vote for the ExpII.

2 January 2013, 08:46 AM	#29
Ozzy12 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 205	I've really wanted to like the ExpI but I'm continually disappointed every time I try. I'd go ND sub if its your first Rolex, that's the most classic/no regrets. The ExpII is nice, but it isn't a sub. Best of luck though, and congrats on the impending purchase!

3 January 2013, 07:08 AM	#30
jlc123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Watch: Overseas Posts: 992	I am sad to report that the buyer dropped out of my sale, its back to waiting for a deal. But, soon enough, I will have a Rolex on my wrist.

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