##All new 8 day movement## FULL HOUSE

[dr3ziz]

On the 3rd of January i wrote this on another thread:

""Ok guys (from a person that claimed to have seen actual samples) ...
1. A bronzo exactly like 382 plus a power reserve on the face !!
2. A black ceramic submersable
3. A lot of chronographs
4. A new 8 day power reserve movement that will be cheaper and fit to regular run 44mm pams such as 111 .

Thats what I remember hope I didnt forget anything ... ""


Fast forward to the unveil of the 2013 panerai novelties i was glad that my source was accurate,, but only 75 % accurate 1 & 2 & 3 but not no.4

well i don't know why panerai do not expose all their cards on the first day of SIHH but apparently there is a totally new 8day movement (P5000) that is fixed in a new model that was not revealed yesterday !!

the Pam 510 a 44mm luminor marina with an all new 8 day manual wind movement

So to my Source i say thank you we have a full house !!

[dr3ziz]

this is a link to a review of the pam510

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...6gt%3B%26gt%3B

[kilyung]

Very cool. Hope to read some tech specs soon.

[Cru Jones]

bettarini case lives!!

apparently, 510 & 511 showing up later in the year or even 2014.

now, if the final version drops "8 Days" from the front and adds a PR (preferably on the back), we'll have a real winner.

[Psmith]

510 is very nice, although I would prefer to delete the '8 days' text

[dr3ziz]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

bettarini case lives!!

apparently, 510 & 511 showing up later in the year or even 2014.

now, if the final version drops "8 Days" from the front and adds a PR (preferably on the back), we'll have a real winner.

Originally Posted by Psmith

510 is very nice, although I would prefer to delete the '8 days' text

Agree, panerai if you are reading this there is too much info on the dial remove the 8days line ! or better yet remove the 8days and add the 8giorni brevettato seal at 3 o'clock

[walds11]

Oh very nice, but I am not really liking the polished case. I am curious to know the tech specs and MSRP.

[One Ping Only]

Now, this is a nice surprise.

[mfer]

I must be the only person that likes "8 Days" on the dial.

Wonder if the wife would notice if I trade the 111 for a 510?

[jvo300]

Originally Posted by mfer

I must be the only person that likes "8 Days" on the dial.

Wonder if the wife would notice if I trade the 111 for a 510?

My wife can't tell the difference between a Luminor and a Radiomir. I guess I'm lucky!

[dr3ziz]

Originally Posted by mfer

I must be the only person that likes "8 Days" on the dial.

Wonder if the wife would notice if I trade the 111 for a 510?

if she doesnt notice the 510 , she will definitely notice the dent in your bank account !!

[nick c]

Good one Aziz

[mfer]

Originally Posted by jvo300

My wife can't tell the difference between a Luminor and a Radiomir. I guess I'm lucky!

She acts like she can tell the difference, but she can't. She wouldn't notice the 111 v 510.

Originally Posted by dr3ziz

if she doesnt notice the 510 , she will definitely notice the dent in your bank account !!

It is supposedly going to be reasonable priced. About 10-15% more than a current 111. Well, maybe not that reasonable, but whatever.

I won't be selling the 111G however. It is pretty special to me and believe it or not, I love the 6497 movements. I mean look at a Rolex 618 and an ETA 6497. This movement isn't high haute horology, but it is great! Hard to beat a 6497 in terms of reliability.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by dr3ziz

On the 3rd of January i wrote this on another thread ... there is a totally new 8day movement (P5000) that is fixed in ... the Pam 510 a 44mm luminor marina ...
So to my Source i say thank you we have a full house !!

Thank you (and your source!)

Thanks for the heads up - I'm very curious about the P.5000 and what variations it will bring forth from the new line

c/o Paneristi Nad

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

bettarini case lives!! ... now, if the final version drops "8 Days" from the front and adds a PR (preferably on the back), we'll have a real winner...

Originally Posted by Psmith

...I would prefer to delete the '8 days' text...

Originally Posted by mfer

I must be the only person that likes "8 Days" on the dial... Wonder if the wife would notice if I trade the 111 for a 510?

Well guys, if you remove the 8 Days you have yourself a 111 (good for those of you with a 111 ...and a wife!!! ) I [also] like the 8 Days myself - of all the "complications" my 233 has on offer, this is by far the best; I cannot say it enough - winding your manual once a week is bliss... I've never had to [re]set my 233, ever*
*Exception was for photographs - "ten and two", etc.

p.s. The P.5000 looks nice, but the P.2002 ain't no chopped livah needah...

[toulouse]

Originally Posted by mfer

I must be the only person that likes "8 Days" on the dial.

Wonder if the wife would notice if I trade the 111 for a 510?

I like the '8 days' too Mik, my wife never notices when I trade PAMS.

[p_mcgee]

Looks like faux patina lume again like the 512. Maybe that look is here to stay.

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by p_mcgee

Looks like faux patina lume again like the 512. Maybe that look is here to stay.

Actually, I think it might the green, which, if so, would make me very happy.

[Psmith]

Also, I prefer the shape of the '3' on these dials - nicer imho than the '3' used on the 000, 112, etc...

[geekyjeff]

Very cool Aziz! This is definitely a good one. Although still holding out for my wish of a 312 with a hand wound 8 day movement

One day I hope...

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by geekyjeff

Very cool Aziz! This is definitely a good one. Although still holding out for my wish of a 312 with a hand wound 8 day movement

One day I hope...

Closest thing is the 233

[geekyjeff]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Closest thing is the 233

Yeah, I've had my eye on the 233 for a while now, and trying to convince myself that I don't need it

I have the 312, and love the simplicity of the dial compared to the 233. If I had a 312 that wore like a 233, I would have perfection without compromise

[mdtddd2007]

Nice to know. Thanks.

[jacksonian]

I doubt there's any chance they'd remove "8 Days". You need it to distinguish it from the 111. I personally would have loved "8 Giorni" on this as well as the 368.

[jvo300]

This is a very interesting development, but I don't understand why they didn't put a power reserve on the back (similar to the 190). Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome to not have to wind your watch every day or two, but without a PR you're probably gonna wind it more than you need to unless you are actively keeping track of your last winding. This design oddity falls in the same bucket to me as the 10 day power reserve on an automatic. It's cool and all, but I don't quite get it.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by jvo300

This is a very interesting development, but I don't understand why they didn't put a power reserve on the back (similar to the 190). Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome to not have to wind your watch every day or two, but without a PR you're probably gonna wind it more than you need to unless you are actively keeping track of your last winding. This design oddity falls in the same bucket to me as the 10 day power reserve on an automatic. It's cool and all, but I don't quite get it.

The general premise is that you just have to remember to do it once a week. I've read that somewhere before. You have to remember to wind your watch every Monday basically, but if you forget you can do it late Monday or Tuesday. They do 8 days so in case you forget you have a buffer. Same thought process on a 6497 movement also, but only every two days with a buffer of 12 hours so you don't have to wind it eactly on the hour.

The PR indicator would add more components and cost to the movement I'm assuming. I'll bet they'll add it in the future, but they'll want at least 10% more.

[jvo300]

Originally Posted by mfer

The general premise is that you just have to remember to do it once a week. I've read that somewhere before. You have to remember to wind your watch every Monday basically, but if you forget you can do it late Monday or Tuesday. They do 8 days so in case you forget you have a buffer. Same thought process on a 6497 movement also, but only every two days with a buffer of 12 hours so you don't have to wind it eactly on the hour.

The PR indicator would add more components and cost to the movement I'm assuming. I'll bet they'll add it in the future, but they'll want at least 10% more.

Thanks Mik. That does make sense. I guess it's hard for me to get my head around it because I wear different watches at different time (depending on my mood) and would have a harder time with this practice unless it became a ritual.

[Travelller]

Originally Posted by jacksonian

... would have loved "8 Giorni" ...

Originally Posted by dr3ziz

...add the 8giorni brevettato seal at 3 o'clock

You guys said it - that and a "9" too... We could have had a Bettarini 203... Of course, fitting all that on a 44mm is another story...

Originally Posted by jvo300

...don't understand why they didn't put a power reserve on the back (similar to the 190) ... without a PR you're probably gonna wind it more than you need to unless you are actively keeping track of your last winding...

The PR indicator will follow in the next iteration - like the 422, or in a Destro version like the 368... such is O.P.'s M.O.

I do like my PR because it lets me know when I forgot to wind it, but as a general rule, I wind mine every Sunday

[toulouse]

Originally Posted by jvo300

This is a very interesting development, but I don't understand why they didn't put a power reserve on the back (similar to the 190). Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome to not have to wind your watch every day or two, but without a PR you're probably gonna wind it more than you need to unless you are actively keeping track of your last winding. This design oddity falls in the same bucket to me as the 10 day power reserve on an automatic. It's cool and all, but I don't quite get it.

A PR on the back would be great, BUT I think this move was to keep the price point lower, which is a good move IMO. It wouldn't matter to me. Thank you Panerai for coming out with a new watch I can save up for later in the year/early next year.

[kilyung]

My question is: will those of you with an 8/10 day Panerai, especially in a 1950 case, pick this up? I'm inclined to say yes despite the overlap with my 233.

[One Ping Only]

Originally Posted by kilyung

My question is: will those of you with an 8/10 day Panerai, especially in a 1950 case, pick this up? I'm inclined to say yes despite the overlap with my 233.

I am inclined to as well, but will have to see it in person to be sure.