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Old 1 March 2013, 04:01 PM   #1
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Pam 127 "Fiddy" current and future value?

I am very curious to see everyone's thought and prediction. Thank-you.
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Old 1 March 2013, 04:14 PM   #2
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If Panerai continues replicating historical models in 47mm, I'd be worried about dilution of the 127.
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Old 1 March 2013, 06:39 PM   #3
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If Panerai continues replicating historical models in 47mm, I'd be worried about dilution of the 127.


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Old 1 March 2013, 10:07 PM   #4
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I think a 127 with a p3000 movement is inevitable, the question will be it it's a special edition or regular production, i think we'll see a ceramic version as well to replace the 375 that never happened and at some point i wouldn't be surprised to see a bronze version.

What will happen then to values is an interesting question, there will be a lot of old school collectors who will claim the new watch isn;t as good etc etc and still try and get top dollar for their pieces but i suspect with new people coming to the brand that will get harder and harder to justify. The inflated price was a lot to do with being the only 47mm luminor (with the exception of the crazy stuff) along with the 217.

I am sure OP look at the prices these pieces got for and release accordingly with new increased prices, the fact that the 448 was a rerelease of the 249 and there hasn't been a rerelease on the 232 i suspect reflects the price difference between the 249 and 232.

The only remaining big mark up pieces now we have new bronzos coming is the 127/217 and the 203/267. The 203/267 are protected by their movement, unless they do a 8 day p3000...
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Old 1 March 2013, 10:53 PM   #5
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Old 2 March 2013, 06:53 AM   #6
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If Panerai continues replicating historical models in 47mm, I'd be worried about dilution of the 127.
Yep. I wonder if the market is starting to fizzle a bit on PAMs (not the vintage or pre-V stuff).
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Old 2 March 2013, 04:26 AM   #7
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I'd be nervous if I had one and paid current market for it.
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Old 2 March 2013, 05:20 AM   #8
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I'd be nervous if I had one and paid current market for it.
Agree, especially with the way Panerai is going.
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Old 2 March 2013, 06:55 AM   #9
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I don't think Panerai is fizzleing, but the days of super over hyped models are slowing down. They are no longer a super niche company either. They have grown and have to deal with this growing demand.

Always (not just with Panerai) be careful when buying a watch for more than MSRP.
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Old 2 March 2013, 06:59 AM   #10
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I don't think Panerai is fizzleing, but the days of super over hyped models are slowing down. They are no longer a super niche company either. They have grown and have to deal with this growing demand.

Always (not just with Panerai) be careful when buying a watch for more than MSRP.
I would never buy ANY watch at MSRP let alone OVER MSRP. Too many deals to be had on the grey market.
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Old 2 March 2013, 07:02 AM   #11
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It sat in ADs windows when 1st released and gathered dust from what I remember and it sold for below list price on the 2nd hand market for about a year before the hype took off.
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It sat in ADs windows when 1st released and gathered dust from what I remember and it sold for below list price on the 2nd hand market for about a year before the hype took off.

This happens with a lot of popular references.
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Old 2 March 2013, 08:41 AM   #13
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Just a watch, one of man's toy, just saying...
If you are worry about value of 127, what should I do with my 382? We only live once, right?
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Old 9 March 2013, 10:56 AM   #14
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Thinking about sitting around the table at a Panerai design meeting - I know a lot of people are upset over recent additions that are similar or the same as past models etc... - I just really wonder how difficult it actually would be to design completely different unique pieces all the time.

I know there are a ton of ideas and this forum as well as the other Forum talk about ideas all of the time that would be amazing - many of those will come about probably at some point. However, without some repeat and possibly stretching into completely different design elements and "looks" - I can't help but believe that those design meetings probably are not the easiest meetings to be in. Just my thoughts.

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