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4 June 2013, 01:04 PM | #1 |
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If the 214270 said Patek on the dial it would cost 25k.
So, I've been tempted to get into the world of "better" watches.
I can truly appreciate the movements, the finishing, the history of the Geneva seal, etc. However, if I look around, I can't find a watch that seems to be as infinitely wearable as my 214270 Explorer 1. You can say the Calatrava with the screw down crown, but here is a WG piece that's on a strap. It certainly comes closest, but is no where near a "do everything" watch. You can look at a Royal Oak, but again, more delicate and outrageous pricing. I want to get a different brand and experience the high end, but the experience seems to be very limited to black tie dinners. Is it just me? Does anyone else have this problem? HELP! |
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How about a Patek Nautilus 5711? I would say that would be just as wearable at the beach as it is with black tie and I love the white dial version.
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Glashutte Sport Evolutions are nice. What about the Breguet Type XX and XXI? IWC? Lots of sport watches out there. Don't forget about Zenith. Zenith is my second favorite brand behind Rolex.
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Have you looked at Grand Seiko?
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Nobody does what Rolex does better than Rolex.
Everything else is just a different anamule.
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Rolex makes fine watches, but their price increases have far-exceeded inflation. They're charging what people will pay for them, which is only far. If you're willing to spend $8.5K on a new tool watch, then they'll be there to take it. If you want the exclusivity of a $25K watch, then there will be someone there to collect that, too. |
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There is only one....Rolex....the rest are merely watches.
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I think that's the beauty of the Explorer I, it may not have the flare of a sub or day date but its the perfect mix of sports and dress... As for higher end brands, I think JLC has some pretty good pieces with great history for a decent price... I can see the master control or reverso go well with casual shorts as well as it does with a suit. I wouldn't swim with it especially with a leather strap but with the price of a PP Nautilus I probably wouldn't swim with that either...
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Sounds to me like you've already got the perfect watch for you.
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I used to think it was madness spending hundreds of pounds on a pair of shoes and yet these days I somehow feel better about spending £600 on Gucci than I do spending £100 on Nike. It's all in the name and we have the little marketing wizards/gremlins to blame for it. Apple has the best marketing in the world, people are willing to pay 3 times the price for a product that is no better than it's rivals (an in most cases worse) and when they've finished being screwed, they feel the need to tell everyone how wonderful it is (even if they cant use it) to try and justify the price they paid which in turn starts the next lemming on the path of purchase. |
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Anyway, I think you got the wrong end of the argument, I'm not slating Apple, I'm praising their sales tactics and pointing out how people buy what they are told. Trust me, every tech brand has their share idiots behind the support counter, the golden rule when calling any technical support is if you haven't been helped within the first 5 minutes, hang up and call again, the next guy might be better! I personally find Apple hardware excellent, well designed and reliable. It's their software I think that hold them back. A lot of their stuff it well thought out but poorly implemented although they are making good progress. For example, the worst thing to happen to the mp3 player industry is iTunes, nothing is more fiddly than "syncing" with your mp3 player when all other brands can simply drag and drop like it's a USB stick. |
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And if your Explorer said Seiko on it it would cost $500
Not sure what your point is? The high end world of luxury items is not rational.
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Some people would never buy a new Rolex. A friend of mine wears MK II watches that are similar to the old 50s and 60s Rolex models. They have ETA movements and are well finished watches. He collects old Rolex models too, but would never wear them to the beach or mowing the lawn. He feels the modern pieces have strayed too far from the original design philosophy. |
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I know this is a Rolex forum, there are a lot of closed minds.
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I have been noticing that alot lately
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I agree with you.
Rolex makes a nice watch as do many other companies - some are nicer while others are cheaper. Rolex has a fairly good combination of quality and price compared to most other large brands (due to their similarly inflated prices). If we're going to be totally honest, a 50% decrease in price would bring just about every brand closer to what I think they're worth. |
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Funny I was just thinking that today. Even factoring in a luxury premium if Rolex Subcs were around £3K/$5k and AP ROs £6K/$9K what a wonderful world this would be.
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I haven't seen a trend towards more close-mindedness, seems the same now as it was except for the opinionated JJ, who we should all remember, showed us its ok to have a closed mind sometime on an issue or point, when that closed is because of a decision. |
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To the OP, you should really go try them on. I used to understand where you're coming from until I tried on some of these other pieces.
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different strokes for different folks. seems like the explorer I is good enough for you, so, good for you.
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