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28 September 2013, 02:42 AM | #1 |
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Vintage Subs vs. New Sub-Cs
I've been saving for awhile to expand my Rolex collection with a tool watch. I'm looking for something to wear every day and ease the burden placed on my two Datejusts.
Because I'm looking for a tool watch, I dive and I lead a generally active lifestyle, I think the Submariner is the best fit for me. I don't need the hour complication of the GMT Master/Explorer II and I find the Milgauss a bit nerdy (). My dilemma is one I admit I'm happy to have: Do I buy a new, robust Sub-C (LV, if it matters) for daily wear and make my own stories or do I buy an older Sub, save a ton of cash and keep a classic going? I'm keen on saving almost $5k but I'm somewhat worried an older Sub's bracelet will be more prone to failure (really the pins). Is this a sound bother? cheers |
28 September 2013, 02:46 AM | #2 |
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Within the budget, I will buy a LV.
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28 September 2013, 03:00 AM | #3 |
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Its only a choice based on taste. I don't think the C is more robust or that the older bracelets would fail.
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Have to agree and there are far more of the older subs around than any ceramic watch and many are 30 plus years old.Myself have not heard of any major failures with the older sub bracelets, but there have been a few failures with some ceramic watch clasp bracelets.And some of my non ceramic subs and SD watches have had quite a hard life used as working tools, and spent well over 600 hours underwater fresh and salt and never a problem with bracelets or any part of the watches.
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If you have $5000 saved that should be able to get you a less than 10 year old non C Sub. Look here in the sales corner...plenty in that range. I like the SubC but if you are truly using it for diving and high activity(I will refrain from the word "beater") I would probably go with a 10 year old or less Sub or SD. Not sure I would go vintage for what you are looking for. |
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28 September 2013, 03:13 AM | #9 |
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That is sooo true. You hear of how good and "solid" the newer bracelets are but they have yet to develop the robustness of the older bracelets. There is the reality of strength and durability and then there is the perception of durability. Rolex will make more money in 10 years on the later "perception" of robustness.
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Personally I would go LV, but I like new everything - watches, cars, etc.
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Same here
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The older Submariner are tough, reliable and established. You will never loose any money on them. The newer Subs are too polarizing to many and that makes them a risky for long term desirability. The jury is still out if they will ever be held to the same high level as the models they replaced. Personally, the cost of a ceramic bezel is a smart money making racquet for Rolex.
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I almost always buy preowned. And I like the older style sub better then a ceramic. Have fun choosing
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28 September 2013, 03:14 AM | #14 |
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older gets my vote , simple no date and a saphire crystal ,, good all rounder ,
but its very personal . lder if bought well certainly wont loose value anything like as fast as a new one. pluss less likely to worry about the odd mark here and there. much as i like solid ends etc , the old bracelet was light for a reason ,, just swap out the spring bars for a couple of new ones and your elected , or go nato , and you can stand a spring bar failure without a loss. |
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I like the looks of the older non-C watches myself.. it's all a matter of preference. You can't really go wrong with either.
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One word "vintage"
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I would get the classic LV sub so you get the best of BOTH worlds!
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Get the 16610LV
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I agree with Mike. But I've also added the hulk to my collection.
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28 September 2013, 06:36 AM | #24 |
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Got my LVc on today, love the watch. I still prefer the simplicity of my oldie sub though! :)
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If you insist!
Archduke - Get the ceramic Sub Date first with lume, sapphire, dealer warranty, glidelock, etc.. Then if you have enough money and still fancy an older watch for aesthetic reasons consider a 14060 / 5513 / 1680 for weekends etc. Best of both worlds. Yes! |
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Considered the SD? 16660 or 16600...Sub on steroids and THE diver's tool watch, IMO.
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