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TonyD · 25 July 2014, 04:48 AM

Yesterday I was shopping in a local outdoor mall and walked into the Jared, which is a local chain store. They have signs splattered on the windows for Rolex at 35% off.

The deal there is that they carry about a dozen fairly undesirable pre-owned models and try to sell them for 35% off of current MSRP. ie they have a DJ that is 15 years old, probably cost $3k new, but is now priced at $4500 so they try and get $3k for it. These prices are always well over what they should be for a used watch.

Anyway.... they have a nice looking President and I have been considering one. I asked a saleswoman if I could see it. She came all the way across the store and then says, if I want to see the president then I need to see an ID.

I was just stunned. I looked at her baffled and then just turned around and walked out the door without a word.

Not that it matters but I was dressed for the office and sporting my new Bluesy Sub.

Mind you this was not the inner city, this is in Nashua NH in a mall with a store selling socks next door. There was only one other customer in the entire store.

I thought about going back later and talking to a store manager about what I assume is a store policy, but I assume it would do no good and they would not care.

I was less offended that I might steal the watch, I was more worried about the sales tactic of taking a person's license and not giving it back when they are ready to leave. I had that happen at a car dealership when I took a car for a test drive. They tried to hold me hostage while the salesman worked on me.

If theft is a problem then they should get a guard or better salespeople.

Maybe next time I am nearby I will stop in and flash the Bluesy or DSSD and make sure they know they missed a sales opportunity. (I still know they won't care.....)

Furbo · 25 July 2014, 04:54 AM

I would do the same, who do they think they are? Police?

JohnBaker3 · 14 October 2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Furbo

I would do the same, who do they think they are? Police?

If we don't have to show an ID to vote in this country, why should we have to show to see a watch !!

shay2nak · 15 October 2014, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBaker3

If we don't have to show an ID to vote in this country, why should we have to show to see a watch !!

don't even get started. Not requiring to show your ID to vote in this country is absolute bullsh*t.

Keith1 · 25 July 2014, 04:54 AM

Maybe their insurance requires it. At a Royal Maui (before they knew me) they take your ID, and put in the case where the watches are. I was told their insurance makes them do it.

luvsub · 25 July 2014, 04:54 AM

ADs in my area never asked for my ID. I would do the same if they ask, walk away...

The Libertine · 25 July 2014, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by luvsub

ADs in my area never asked for my ID. I would do the same if they ask, walk away...

Never heard of this before, nor would I have any part of it either.

Roma315 · 13 October 2014, 10:53 PM

Walked into a store (mid 20's when this happened) and they let me try on YG GMT II without any questions, I was dressed down...guess it depends on the location/store

Mack Bolan · 25 July 2014, 04:57 AM

Im sure this is based on previous bad experiences they have had. It's unfortunate that honest people have to be subjected to this...

Thunderball57 · 25 July 2014, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack Bolan

Im sure this is based on previous bad experiences they have had. It's unfortunate that honest people have to be subjected to this...

That's the way of it. A handful always muddy the waters for the majority. Reminds me of a member who was asked by a salesperson at BB if he could afford the YM he wanted to check out. I'd have shown that associate the door if I'd been manager.

sco · 25 July 2014, 05:00 AM

Weird, but I would've left too. I would feel insulted, store policy or not!

antbkny · 25 July 2014, 05:01 AM

jump through the hoop, or not. the choice is yours. i wouldn't take offense to it at all.

Onikage · 25 July 2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolex Dude

jump through the hoop, or not. the choice is yours. i wouldn't take offense to it at all.

Me either. Who cares? You're walking away with a President and the grin in 5mins!

antbkny · 25 July 2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Me either. Who cares? You're walking away with a President and the grin in 5mins!

haha thats right! Eye on the prize!

tkerrmd · 25 July 2014, 05:07 AM

Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

Jocke · 25 July 2014, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

Is there a Porsche idling outside, I understand if they are careful.

TonyD · 25 July 2014, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Is there a Porsche idling outside, I understand if they are careful.

That was the other weird part.... this was in the way back of an outdoor mall. No way to get a car in there. Maybe ride a motorcycle on the sidewalks? I would have to run 300 yards to the parking lot. Evan a fat mall cop on a Segway could catch me!

Racerdj · 25 July 2014, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Is there a Porsche idling outside, I understand if they are careful.

Charles1977 · 25 July 2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Is there a Porsche idling outside, I understand if they are careful.

Hahahahha that was good

boogiebot · 25 July 2014, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

I agree with Tom.

It's not unreasonable for them to ask. Personally I would not take offense. Just find another AD that has store policy that meets your comfort level. There are tons out there.

fishingbear · 13 October 2014, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

My sentiments exactly.

T. Ferguson · 14 October 2014, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

This exactly. But then again, you could always just give them the watch on your wrist to hold as collateral for everything in the display case.

But I agree, they don't know me so why take it personally? It's business. I get it, but it doesn't mean I'd comply either.

brandrea · 25 July 2014, 05:18 AM

I've never been asked for I.D. at an AD before, but I have been judged for wearing jeans and a tee

Bolivia · 25 July 2014, 05:18 AM

Don't know why but reminds me of the time I took my mom to Mayor's in Dadeland Mall to go buy a WG Skydweller.

In all fairness my shirt had a food stain on it (vacation pasta) and my clothes were a tight fit because I'd gained a few pounds but I did have the cash for it, I'm not the kind of person who goes "window shopping".

I was pretty pissed when I asked what sort of discount I could get and the salesman asked me if "I knew how this works". Really wanted the watch so I didn't say anything; gave him my hotel number and said they would call back with a price so we could close the deal. They never did and I never went back.

Now I just deal with my local AD, they do the same sort of thing but at least once you buy a watch they treat you better.

It's pretty stupid to judge people by how they look, I've seen millionaires who look like beggars and wannabes who look like millionaires. I've had this happen a few times so I guess it says something about me too lolz :D.

T01 · 25 July 2014, 05:21 AM

Never heard of or experienced that before. Seems like a big sales barrier...

SoonerTA · 25 July 2014, 05:21 AM

I have never had that happen but would walk right out if they did ask. I tried on a The Platinum Daytona the other day and with out hesitation the sales girl handed it right to me not questions asked.

sigguy · 25 July 2014, 05:25 AM

Interesting. Last week I was in a mall AD in the northeast and asked to
see a day-date. Rolex counter was near the front entrance. I was on family
vacation, so shorts/teeshirt. Had my ExpII on.

Guy pulls it out and says 'sure, come with me'. So I follow him to the
back, figuring, ok, there's a seating area, whatever. We go into a small
office; there's another guy on the phone at the desk. He hands me the
watch standing there. Now I'm thinking he wanted me in the back of
the store to discourage me running off with it. Ok, fine.

As it turns out, on the table is a box from Rolex. They had just gotten a
shipment of watches, including two of the new SD, a BLNR, couple of DJII,
latest milgauss, LVc. They're all sitting on the table in the little plastic cases.

So we start shooting the s*it about the new watches, after a few minutes we
go back out front and he pulls out some others on display for me to try.
Overall a good visit; it clearly started with him sizing me up and being cautious,
and then realizing that I might be a possible customer after
demonstrating some knowledge.

I do give him high marks for being subtle about it.

In your case I would go back and talk with the store manager. If it's
store policy, then can't do much about it. If it was the saleslady sizing
you up and giving you the brush-off, then the manager would probably
appreciate knowing that she's doing that kind of thing.

Regards.

Cru Jones · 25 July 2014, 05:26 AM

Here, to get in and out of watch stores, security buttons must be pressed and usually a guard is manning the door. So, no IDs are requested.... Not sure which approach is better.

lapince · 25 July 2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Here, to get in and out of watch stores, security buttons must be pressed and usually a guard is manning the door. So, no IDs are requested.... Not sure which approach is better.

That's right, in France many stores even have a first door you go through, when it closes the security guy opens you the second one, same thing on the way out, but in Paris there have been a big number of jewelry shops attacked, not long ago 15 guys from eastern Europe attacked the window with axes and stole for almost 1 million euros of very expensive watches, not talking Rolex here, since banks don't have any cash available, it's in a special machine and you can't take out more than a few thousand per hour unless you ordered in advance, the new target for criminals is high end jewelry shops, so they are talking extreme security measures.

One was even attacked in broad day light on Place Vendome, just in front of the Ministry of Justice

ltmgeller · 25 July 2014, 05:37 AM

I've never been asked for id but I have been ignored when I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt.

25 July 2014, 04:48 AM	#1
TonyD 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Boston North Watch: Meteorite Daytona Posts: 1,471	May I see your ID? Yesterday I was shopping in a local outdoor mall and walked into the Jared, which is a local chain store. They have signs splattered on the windows for Rolex at 35% off. The deal there is that they carry about a dozen fairly undesirable pre-owned models and try to sell them for 35% off of current MSRP. ie they have a DJ that is 15 years old, probably cost $3k new, but is now priced at $4500 so they try and get $3k for it. These prices are always well over what they should be for a used watch. Anyway.... they have a nice looking President and I have been considering one. I asked a saleswoman if I could see it. She came all the way across the store and then says, if I want to see the president then I need to see an ID. I was just stunned. I looked at her baffled and then just turned around and walked out the door without a word. Not that it matters but I was dressed for the office and sporting my new Bluesy Sub. Mind you this was not the inner city, this is in Nashua NH in a mall with a store selling socks next door. There was only one other customer in the entire store. I thought about going back later and talking to a store manager about what I assume is a store policy, but I assume it would do no good and they would not care. I was less offended that I might steal the watch, I was more worried about the sales tactic of taking a person's license and not giving it back when they are ready to leave. I had that happen at a car dealership when I took a car for a test drive. They tried to hold me hostage while the salesman worked on me. If theft is a problem then they should get a guard or better salespeople. Maybe next time I am nearby I will stop in and flash the Bluesy or DSSD and make sure they know they missed a sales opportunity. (I still know they won't care.....) __________________ Pepsi GMT/SD43/DSSD Blue/ DJ41 TT Rose Diamond Dial/ Daytona Meteorite/ SS Sky Dweller White Dial/ IWC Bronze Big Pilot/ Aquanautic Super King / Omega Ploprof 1200 / Graham Scarab Diver

13 October 2014, 10:53 PM	#8
Roma315 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New York(Upstate) Watch: The clock Posts: 992	Walked into a store (mid 20's when this happened) and they let me try on YG GMT II without any questions, I was dressed down...guess it depends on the location/store __________________

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25 July 2014, 04:54 AM	#2
Furbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Slovenia, EU Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,507	I would do the same, who do they think they are? Police?

25 July 2014, 04:54 AM	#5
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	Maybe their insurance requires it. At a Royal Maui (before they knew me) they take your ID, and put in the case where the watches are. I was told their insurance makes them do it.

25 July 2014, 04:54 AM	#6
luvsub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF, south bay Posts: 5,222	ADs in my area never asked for my ID. I would do the same if they ask, walk away...

25 July 2014, 04:57 AM	#9
Mack Bolan Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Anywhere but here Watch: Submariner Posts: 259	Im sure this is based on previous bad experiences they have had. It's unfortunate that honest people have to be subjected to this...

25 July 2014, 05:00 AM	#11
sco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Subc AT 8500 CSO Posts: 3,646	Weird, but I would've left too. I would feel insulted, store policy or not!

25 July 2014, 05:01 AM	#12
antbkny "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Dblue Posts: 6,723	jump through the hoop, or not. the choice is yours. i wouldn't take offense to it at all.

25 July 2014, 05:07 AM	#15
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Well if they didn't know me and had no security there and I asked to handle a 20-30k watch not really unreasonable I wouldn't do it but wouldn't taken offense would have just thought their policy

25 July 2014, 05:18 AM	#23
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,091	I've never been asked for I.D. at an AD before, but I have been judged for wearing jeans and a tee

25 July 2014, 05:18 AM	#24
Bolivia "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Pablo Location: Bolivia Posts: 24	Don't know why but reminds me of the time I took my mom to Mayor's in Dadeland Mall to go buy a WG Skydweller. In all fairness my shirt had a food stain on it (vacation pasta) and my clothes were a tight fit because I'd gained a few pounds but I did have the cash for it, I'm not the kind of person who goes "window shopping". I was pretty pissed when I asked what sort of discount I could get and the salesman asked me if "I knew how this works". Really wanted the watch so I didn't say anything; gave him my hotel number and said they would call back with a price so we could close the deal. They never did and I never went back. Now I just deal with my local AD, they do the same sort of thing but at least once you buy a watch they treat you better. It's pretty stupid to judge people by how they look, I've seen millionaires who look like beggars and wannabes who look like millionaires. I've had this happen a few times so I guess it says something about me too lolz :D.

25 July 2014, 05:21 AM	#25
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	Never heard of or experienced that before. Seems like a big sales barrier...

25 July 2014, 05:21 AM	#26
SoonerTA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: Texas Posts: 1,417	I have never had that happen but would walk right out if they did ask. I tried on a The Platinum Daytona the other day and with out hesitation the sales girl handed it right to me not questions asked.

25 July 2014, 05:25 AM	#27
sigguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Mexico Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 224	Interesting. Last week I was in a mall AD in the northeast and asked to see a day-date. Rolex counter was near the front entrance. I was on family vacation, so shorts/teeshirt. Had my ExpII on. Guy pulls it out and says 'sure, come with me'. So I follow him to the back, figuring, ok, there's a seating area, whatever. We go into a small office; there's another guy on the phone at the desk. He hands me the watch standing there. Now I'm thinking he wanted me in the back of the store to discourage me running off with it. Ok, fine. As it turns out, on the table is a box from Rolex. They had just gotten a shipment of watches, including two of the new SD, a BLNR, couple of DJII, latest milgauss, LVc. They're all sitting on the table in the little plastic cases. So we start shooting the s*it about the new watches, after a few minutes we go back out front and he pulls out some others on display for me to try. Overall a good visit; it clearly started with him sizing me up and being cautious, and then realizing that I might be a possible customer after demonstrating some knowledge. I do give him high marks for being subtle about it. In your case I would go back and talk with the store manager. If it's store policy, then can't do much about it. If it was the saleslady sizing you up and giving you the brush-off, then the manager would probably appreciate knowing that she's doing that kind of thing. Regards.

25 July 2014, 05:26 AM	#28
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,300	Here, to get in and out of watch stores, security buttons must be pressed and usually a guard is manning the door. So, no IDs are requested.... Not sure which approach is better.

25 July 2014, 05:37 AM	#30
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,580	I've never been asked for id but I have been ignored when I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt.

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