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Kingair · 12 August 2014, 02:54 PM

After Gerardo offered me all that lovely food & wine I was surfing to find desert . . .

Found this beautiful short movie on the Ferrari 308 GT4

It's not my favorite Ferrari but the more you look at it . . . you see that Marcello Gandini did at nice job when working for Bertone

I just checked what other designs he did and I have to say . . . impressive

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Gandini

To get back to my first line . . . as much as Gerardo loves food & wine . . . I love cars . . .

No sorry . . . I love both ;)

Enjoy the movie

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKwIfsAMZfs

Have a nice evening

stephentross · 12 August 2014, 03:22 PM

Thanks for sharing, Interesting as well. I have been on the hunt for a Fiberglass 308 for sometime myself. Or a post '84 GTB.

76 or 77 308 GTB or a nice 89 GTB is my choice. :)

Rock · 12 August 2014, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stephentross

Thanks for sharing, Interesting as well. I have been on the hunt for a Fiberglass 308 for sometime myself. Or a post '84 GTB.

76 or 77 308 GTB or a nice 89 GTB is my choice. :)

Father-in-Law has his for sale. It's a '78 I think.
I'm not interested. He does all the service himself - I would be flat-out changing the oil.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stephentross

Thanks for sharing, Interesting as well. I have been on the hunt for a Fiberglass 308 for sometime myself. Or a post '84 GTB.

76 or 77 308 GTB or a nice 89 GTB is my choice. :)

Still hunting for one ?

Fiberglass are going to be the most expensive during the years since only 712 where made before they started the metal production

I would go for the early years with carbs or the last ones with the QV engine

Just my .02

Porsche · 12 August 2014, 03:37 PM

Ahhh, one of my favourites. And it's a 2+2, so a practical car as well!

I had to decide between a 308GT4 and a 911 ... I guess you know what I chose, but I still wonder about the one that got away, and what life would be like with it instead....

Thanks Marc, great find

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche

Ahhh, one of my favourites. And it's a 2+2, so a practical car as well!

I had to decide between a 308GT4 and a 911 ... I guess you know what I chose, but I still wonder about the one that got away, and what life would be like with it instead....

Thanks Marc, great find

I would also opt for this one instead of a 60's 911

Anyway the old 911 SWB what nobody wanted in those days are going from 300 k and up these days in nice condition . . .

Insane price if you ask me

Hairdude1 · 12 August 2014, 03:45 PM

Cool video! thanks for sharing

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Cool video! thanks for sharing

Your welcome my friend

The Joker · 12 August 2014, 06:14 PM

Old Ferrari's are so beautiful, shame nowadays it's all about setting laptimes at the nurburgring, 5 way traction control and wind tunnels. The car's are not so pretty, but that's where the game is it.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Old Ferrari's are so beautiful, shame nowadays it's all about setting laptimes at the nurburgring, 5 way traction control and wind tunnels. The car's are not so pretty, but that's where the game is it.

Love these more than the newer ones

But I am more a classic car guy ;)

The Libertine · 13 August 2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Old Ferrari's are so beautiful, shame nowadays it's all about setting laptimes at the nurburgring, 5 way traction control and wind tunnels. The car's are not so pretty, but that's where the game is it.

Very true; old Ferrari's have such gorgeous designs.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Libertine

Very true; old Ferrari's have such gorgeous designs.

Not only Ferrari's . . . .

Older Maserati . . . . like the Ghibli convertible . . . .

Such an amazing car

Challenger Deep · 12 August 2014, 10:01 PM

Very beautiful.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Challenger Deep

Very beautiful.

Thanks my friend

JohnBaker3 · 13 August 2014, 02:32 AM

Let's just ask Magnum....he knows all about them AND Rolex GMT Pepsi's !!

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBaker3

Let's just ask Magnum....he knows all about them AND Rolex GMT Pepsi's !!

He already did years ago . . . ;)

JohnBaker3 · 13 August 2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingair

He already did years ago . . . ;)

The story I heard was that in the final season, Selleck's contract said that he would get the 308 as a bonus....

He took delivery of the car and then had it shipped to the mainland. On Christmas Day, he presented it to Larry Manetti, who wanted it even more than he did....

Awesome piece of Enzo's legacy....

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnBaker3

The story I heard was that in the final season, Selleck's contract said that he would get the 308 as a bonus....

He took delivery of the car and then had it shipped to the mainland. On Christmas Day, he presented it to Larry Manetti, who wanted it even more than he did....

Awesome piece of Enzo's legacy....

Thanks for sharing !

Shoulb be here now

http://www.petersen.org

Pix · 13 August 2014, 08:23 AM

Last time I was on the Ferrari boards service costs for 308 series was running between two -three dollars per mile. Ouch!

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pix

Last time I was on the Ferrari boards service costs for 308 series was running between two -three dollars per mile. Ouch!

They cost some money

A good year the price of a DJ

A slightly less year a Daytona

A bad year a YG Daytona

But I guess we all know that

Now if I have to choose between a Ferrari and a Prius . . .

lavaman · 13 August 2014, 08:46 AM

Dad owned a 328 GTS for some time. It was wonderful, right until the moment the f150 took it out in a parking lot.

GREAT car.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lavaman

Dad owned a 328 GTS for some time. It was wonderful, right until the moment the f150 took it out in a parking lot.

GREAT car.

That a really nice car . .

But Ferrari's and trucks are not the right combo . . .

tkerrmd · 13 August 2014, 11:02 AM

Thanks Marc !

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Thanks Marc !

Can't always be 911's . . .

C U Tom

watchdog507 · 13 August 2014, 11:24 AM

I had a 308 GTS Black with a Red interior for a short while in 1980. It wasn't a QV and a 4 Weber Carbs version. Great looking car at the time. My observation on a 308GT is that it's a great looking car. The motor is fairly anemic by today's standards. If it is taken car of with regular Ferrari service it's pretty durable. It handles well and is fun to drive. In the short time I had it, I spent a fortune on brakes and valve service.

stephentross · 13 August 2014, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock

Father-in-Law has his for sale. It's a '78 I think.
I'm not interested. He does all the service himself - I would be flat-out changing the oil.

Nice. PM me the details. Does he have it listed online?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingair

Still hunting for one ?

Fiberglass are going to be the most expensive during the years since only 712 where made before they started the metal production

I would go for the early years with carbs or the last ones with the QV engine

Just my .02

Still hunting. I am probably fighting a battle I can't win. GTB is a must. 76-77 fiberglass hard to locate and will be at a premium. In 1984 the cars were galvanized so if you read between the lines, Trying to locate one that will not turn into a rust bucket.

I am very patient however.

Kingair · 13 August 2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stephentross

Nice. PM me the details. Does he have it listed online?

Still hunting. I am probably fighting a battle I can't win. GTB is a must. 76-77 fiberglass hard to locate and will be at a premium. In 1984 the cars were galvanized so if you read between the lines, Trying to locate one that will not turn into a rust bucket.

I am very patient however.

Being patient is the best thing money wise . . .

I have seen several and untill today I didn't find the right one either . . .

Got a call yesterday from a guy and he has 5 for sale but one is a GTS . . . so maybe . . . but I am not in a rush either

Good luck ;)

josephvman · 14 August 2014, 12:15 PM

Great video! I've owned a number of older Ferrari's and I've always been a fan of the 308 GT4. I've owned an '89 328 GTB for the past twelve years, and it's a wonderful sports car.

Regarding 308's, particularly early glass cars, prices are skyrocketing with no sign of slowing down, especially in the UK. 246 Dino's were cheaper than 308's for twenty years, but today most any Dino is worth $200k, and very good cars could top $500k later this week at the big auctions. It appears that 308's are finally along for the ride, so if you've ever wanted one I think the day of finding a really good, desirable version for under $100k are numbered.

Regarding the video, does anyone know where it was filmed? I spent a couple of weeks in Sicily in May and I would swear that one of those roads is near Lago Arancio in Ulmo, near one of the La Planeta wineries. Those roads are great fun! Sadly I didn't have a Ferrari, but I think I got the most out of my Alfa Giulietta rent car!

stephentross · 14 August 2014, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephvman

Great video! I've owned a number of older Ferrari's and I've always been a fan of the 308 GT4. I've owned an '89 328 GTB for the past twelve years, and it's a wonderful sports car.

Regarding 308's, particularly early glass cars, prices are skyrocketing with no sign of slowing down, especially in the UK. 246 Dino's were cheaper than 308's for twenty years, but today most any Dino is worth $200k, and very good cars could top $500k later this week at the big auctions. It appears that 308's are finally along for the ride, so if you've ever wanted one I think the day of finding a really good, desirable version for under $100k are numbered.

Regarding the video, does anyone know where it was filmed? I spent a couple of weeks in Sicily in May and I would swear that one of those roads is near Lago Arancio in Ulmo, near one of the La Planeta wineries. Those roads are great fun! Sadly I didn't have a Ferrari, but I think I got the most out of my Alfa Giulietta rent car!

Beautiful car. That is what i am looking for and I live in Houston as well. If you ever want to sell. Please PM me here

josephvman · 15 August 2014, 02:09 AM

Stephen,

I've turned down some borderline ridiculous offers for the car lately, but it's not for sale, nor will it likely ever be.

Regarding 308 vs. 328, 328's are a bit more refined, particularly the late 88/89 cars. Being a decade newer than the earliest 308's, they've likely suffered less neglect, abuse, or deferred maintenance. There are quite a few variants of 308's in particular, all with their own strengths, weaknesses, and quirks, but driving character remains similar across the board, and performance is similar as well, with the exception of the 2V injected 80-82 cars that were down quite a bit on power. My favorites are the early glass cars, pre-catalyst carbed GTB's (coupes), quattrovalvole GTB's, and my '89 GTB. The pool of average to good 328's is much larger than 308's, so you're more likely to find a good 328. Service costs are similar across the range, but many of the 308's had sodium-filled valves that can fail, but it's not all that common. This is probably the only 308/328 issue that I would consider potentially catastrophic in terms of cost, and in he past could turn a cheap one into a salvage case, costing nearly the value of the car to repair. Now that values have jumped, finding yourself upside down because of a valve failure is less of an issue, however that doesn't change the cost of the repair.

308 GT4's are a bit of a wild-card. They have the distinction of being the only Bertone-designed production Ferrari, not an insignificant factor for future collectibility. They can look a bit homely in certain colors (one of the few that doesn't look as good in red as many other colors), especially beside a 246 or 308, but I really like the way they drive, and they're a very interesting package of efficient design, considering mid-engine with rear seats. I wish I would have picked one up when a well-sorted car could be bought for $25k.

As for maintenance costs, I would budget $5k a year to own one of these cars. Most years you'll spend $2k for basic service, and every 4-5 you'll spend $10-15k for a full-blown major service. $5k a year covers that and then some, and you can take comfort in the fact that nice cars are appreciating, so actual cost of ownership is much lower than you'd think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephentross

Beautiful car. That is what i am looking for and I live in Houston as well. If you ever want to sell. Please PM me here

12 August 2014, 02:54 PM	#1
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Ferrari 308GT4 After Gerardo offered me all that lovely food & wine I was surfing to find desert . . . Found this beautiful short movie on the Ferrari 308 GT4 It's not my favorite Ferrari but the more you look at it . . . you see that Marcello Gandini did at nice job when working for Bertone I just checked what other designs he did and I have to say . . . impressive http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Gandini To get back to my first line . . . as much as Gerardo loves food & wine . . . I love cars . . . No sorry . . . I love both ;) Enjoy the movie https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKwIfsAMZfs Have a nice evening

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12 August 2014, 03:22 PM	#2
stephentross 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Southwest USA Posts: 896	Thanks for sharing, Interesting as well. I have been on the hunt for a Fiberglass 308 for sometime myself. Or a post '84 GTB. 76 or 77 308 GTB or a nice 89 GTB is my choice. :)

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The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	Old Ferrari's are so beautiful, shame nowadays it's all about setting laptimes at the nurburgring, 5 way traction control and wind tunnels. The car's are not so pretty, but that's where the game is it.

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Pix "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: midwest Watch: SS Datejust Posts: 1,288	Last time I was on the Ferrari boards service costs for 308 series was running between two -three dollars per mile. Ouch!

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lavaman Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Airport Watch: what happens next Posts: 1,942	Dad owned a 328 GTS for some time. It was wonderful, right until the moment the f150 took it out in a parking lot. GREAT car.

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tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Thanks Marc !

13 August 2014, 11:24 AM	#25
watchdog507 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: YYZ, RSW Watch: Rose Gold Posts: 1,675	I had a 308 GTS Black with a Red interior for a short while in 1980. It wasn't a QV and a 4 Weber Carbs version. Great looking car at the time. My observation on a 308GT is that it's a great looking car. The motor is fairly anemic by today's standards. If it is taken car of with regular Ferrari service it's pretty durable. It handles well and is fun to drive. In the short time I had it, I spent a fortune on brakes and valve service.

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josephvman Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Houston, TX USA Posts: 808	Great video! I've owned a number of older Ferrari's and I've always been a fan of the 308 GT4. I've owned an '89 328 GTB for the past twelve years, and it's a wonderful sports car. Regarding 308's, particularly early glass cars, prices are skyrocketing with no sign of slowing down, especially in the UK. 246 Dino's were cheaper than 308's for twenty years, but today most any Dino is worth $200k, and very good cars could top $500k later this week at the big auctions. It appears that 308's are finally along for the ride, so if you've ever wanted one I think the day of finding a really good, desirable version for under $100k are numbered. Regarding the video, does anyone know where it was filmed? I spent a couple of weeks in Sicily in May and I would swear that one of those roads is near Lago Arancio in Ulmo, near one of the La Planeta wineries. Those roads are great fun! Sadly I didn't have a Ferrari, but I think I got the most out of my Alfa Giulietta rent car!

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