Rolex Submariner: Fake

[Cab pilot]

I am pretty certain this is fake, but it has a Rolex servicing receipt with it, which is throwing me off. Thoughts?

[Cab pilot]

[Cab pilot]

[hanybad]

It looks ok but need better pic's

[Cab pilot]

Hanybad,

What portion of the watch would help you better give an opinion? Or just clearer pics?

[hanybad]

Originally Posted by Cab pilot

Hanybad,

What portion of the watch would help you better give an opinion? Or just clearer pics?

Clear Picture of model and serial ,date magnification and clear picture of Dial under 6 o'clock

[Cab pilot]

Stainless steel 6191159

[Cab pilot]

Registered Design 1680

[Cab pilot]

[Ed Rooney]

Better pics between both sets of lugs. Maybe a closer pic of the dial.

So far not looking bad. It's just a vintage piece. They didn't fake these very well back then, if at all.

[hanybad]

It's real and I'm sure you know it's missing the whole bezel assembly
Does it have the crystal retaining ring? I can't tell from those photos.

[Cab pilot]

So the bezel aasembly is what is throwing me off. There is a bezel but there is no spring or retaining ring.

I am going to take this over to my AD and have them take a look and service it. The watch was left to me and it would be pretty cool to find out its genuine.

[hanybad]

Originally Posted by Cab pilot

So the bezel aasembly is what is throwing me off. There is a bezel but there is no spring or retaining ring.

I am going to take this over to my AD and have them take a look and service it. The watch was left to me and it would be pretty cool to find out its genuine.

So you have the bezel with insert? I think the crystal retaining ring is there otherwise it would be fairly easy to take the glass off so if you have the bezel with insert the only thing missing is the spring.
Good luck and it's a nice watch to have

[Ed Rooney]

Originally Posted by Cab pilot

So the bezel aasembly is what is throwing me off. There is a bezel but there is no spring or retaining ring.

I am going to take this over to my AD and have them take a look and service it. The watch was left to me and it would be pretty cool to find out its genuine.

They probably won't touch it, and if they do, don't let them replace the dial or hands.

[Cab pilot]

Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

They probably won't touch it, and if they do, don't let them replace the dial or hands.

Ed, just out curiosity why would they not touch it?

Thanks everyone for the info and patience. I like collecting watches but have a ton to learn about their history.

The watch pictured was my uncles and when he passed this and a few Timex watches were given to my father. My father in return sent it to Rolex for servicing. When he got it back he gave it to me, but we have both always questioned its authenticity. Lesson learned on this.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Cab pilot

Ed, just out curiosity why would they not touch it?

Thanks everyone for the info and patience. I like collecting watches but have a ton to learn about their history.

The watch pictured was my uncles and when he passed this and a few Timex watches were given to my father. My father in return sent it to Rolex for servicing. When he got it back he gave it to me, but we have both always questioned its authenticity. Lesson learned on this.

Rolex wouldn't have serviced it if it was not authentic.

[Cab pilot]

Thanks Old Ex Pat.

[drifter01]

The crystal retaining ring is on the watch (can be seen in the photos) but the bezel itself is gone. It does look genuine.

[Pict]

Open 6's in 660 would make it a service dial, 6 mil would date it to 79/80.

Post it in the vintage forum for expert opinion.

[joesetx]

Here's a theory.
The watch is authentic but the bezel is not.
Rolex removed the fake bezel and offered to put a genuine one on but your dad balked at the price.
That's why the bezel is not on the watch.

Just a wild guess.