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UNLVino · 2 January 2016, 01:10 AM

Long time lurker new member newbie question I haven't really seen answered. Quick history I have a Oyster Perpetual two tone small Roman dial - I am the proud original owner purchased in 2002 - recently my father in law passed away he owned a Day Date he bought new in 1980 - circa 1978 based on SN - while helping my Mother in law to sell it I realized I might as well buy it - I get a great deal and she got more $$. Of course now I have the bug! Was serviced about 2 years ago - I recall there was moisture under the crystal. Here is my question(s)

I cannot tell if the dial is original or replaced and if replaced is it Rolex or after market and is it original to the watch?

Been thinking of replacing the hands - should I?

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jdsal · 2 January 2016, 04:12 AM

You need better picture of the dial. This one won't do it.

UNLVino · 2 January 2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jdsal

You need better picture of the dial. This one won't do it.

I think Crowncollection confirmed what I suspect - but here you go can you tell if at least official Rolex dial? I saw on another post about dials but said "invalid purchase"

crowncollection · 2 January 2016, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by UNLVino

I think Crowncollection confirmed what I suspect - but here you go can you tell if at least official Rolex dial? I saw on another post about dials but said "invalid purchase"

No it is not a an original Rolex dial it has aftermarket diamonds added

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crowncollection · 2 January 2016, 08:22 AM

Dial is not original sorry

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UNLVino · 2 January 2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

Dial is not original sorry

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Thank you, that was what I thought - I believe the original had damage due to moisture and was replaced - I know he used a reputable source for service but not AD - can you tell me is it official Rolex and just not original to the Watch or is it pure after market? If after market - should I have hands replaced?

GerardoG · 3 January 2016, 02:51 AM

Dear Tim:

First of all, welcome to the club! That is a nice Day Date you have, specially because of the sentimental value. Although the dial looks not original (for the reasons commented before), a lot of people in your situation might keep the watch that way because of its history and meaning to you. If so, service it with an independent watchmaker as Rolex might (or will not) service it. On the hands, I think they match the watch, replacing them will make the hands 'pop', but as with all watch-issues, it is personal taste.

JustinK · 3 January 2016, 04:10 AM

Rolex will not work on anything aftermarket and they will not allow their independents with parts accounts to work on them either. Through Rolex you would have to buy a dial and have the watch serviced for them to do anything with it. Likely any parts you had installed two years ago when it was serviced are aftermarket.
If you interest is to make it original again the dials are easy to find and not that expensive. Once you source an original dial an independent watchmaker with a parts account will likely agree to work on it, swap the dial and replace anything needed with genuine Rolex parts. This is the most cost effective way to go.

Or wear it as is and enjoy. :)

UNLVino · 3 January 2016, 08:31 AM

Thank you guys - going to keep as is. I have box and papers so I know it was original when purchased in April, 1980. Wish father in law was still here rather have him than the watch for sure. He used a reputable jeweler who specializes in pre owned Rolex - I believe the face was always black - I recall something about the service and the jeweler replacing dial for free due to the water damage having to do with bad seal after he serviced it. Runs perfectly and has kept excellent time for the month or so I've had it. We found it in a sock in a closet going through his stuff - he had thought it was stolen or that my mother in law sold it on him - he must of just hidden it - would have been awesome if we found it while he was still around and he could have enjoyed it a few more years.

In any event - it's going to be treated well, appreciated and go to a grand kid one day waaaay in the future

TheRolexKingofLV · 3 January 2016, 08:56 AM

Great story Tim

You are now the temporary care-taker of that family heirloom. Wear it proud!

2 January 2016, 01:10 AM	#1
UNLVino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Tim Location: Left Coast USA Watch: 15203 & 18038 Posts: 384	Hello quick question 18038 Long time lurker new member newbie question I haven't really seen answered. Quick history I have a Oyster Perpetual two tone small Roman dial - I am the proud original owner purchased in 2002 - recently my father in law passed away he owned a Day Date he bought new in 1980 - circa 1978 based on SN - while helping my Mother in law to sell it I realized I might as well buy it - I get a great deal and she got more $$. Of course now I have the bug! Was serviced about 2 years ago - I recall there was moisture under the crystal. Here is my question(s) I cannot tell if the dial is original or replaced and if replaced is it Rolex or after market and is it original to the watch? Been thinking of replacing the hands - should I? If I'm too stupid to figure out how to post a pic - it's my Avitar Attached Images

2 January 2016, 08:22 AM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Dial is not original sorry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

3 January 2016, 08:56 AM	#10
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	Great story Tim You are now the temporary care-taker of that family heirloom. Wear it proud! __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

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2 January 2016, 04:12 AM	#2
jdsal "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Salvatore Location: Nor. Cal. Watch: Gilt 1675&10 Subs Posts: 89	You need better picture of the dial. This one won't do it.

3 January 2016, 02:51 AM	#7
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Dear Tim: First of all, welcome to the club! That is a nice Day Date you have, specially because of the sentimental value. Although the dial looks not original (for the reasons commented before), a lot of people in your situation might keep the watch that way because of its history and meaning to you. If so, service it with an independent watchmaker as Rolex might (or will not) service it. On the hands, I think they match the watch, replacing them will make the hands 'pop', but as with all watch-issues, it is personal taste.

3 January 2016, 04:10 AM	#8
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,064	Rolex will not work on anything aftermarket and they will not allow their independents with parts accounts to work on them either. Through Rolex you would have to buy a dial and have the watch serviced for them to do anything with it. Likely any parts you had installed two years ago when it was serviced are aftermarket. If you interest is to make it original again the dials are easy to find and not that expensive. Once you source an original dial an independent watchmaker with a parts account will likely agree to work on it, swap the dial and replace anything needed with genuine Rolex parts. This is the most cost effective way to go. Or wear it as is and enjoy. :)

3 January 2016, 08:31 AM	#9
UNLVino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Tim Location: Left Coast USA Watch: 15203 & 18038 Posts: 384	Thank you guys - going to keep as is. I have box and papers so I know it was original when purchased in April, 1980. Wish father in law was still here rather have him than the watch for sure. He used a reputable jeweler who specializes in pre owned Rolex - I believe the face was always black - I recall something about the service and the jeweler replacing dial for free due to the water damage having to do with bad seal after he serviced it. Runs perfectly and has kept excellent time for the month or so I've had it. We found it in a sock in a closet going through his stuff - he had thought it was stolen or that my mother in law sold it on him - he must of just hidden it - would have been awesome if we found it while he was still around and he could have enjoyed it a few more years. In any event - it's going to be treated well, appreciated and go to a grand kid one day waaaay in the future

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