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BlueIn2Red · 3 March 2016, 01:52 AM

Hi guys,

I'd appreciate your input on the quality of the alignment and spacing of the screws on the bezel of the watch in the picture below. I have some concerns, but don't know if I'm imagining things or my standards are too high (!). I'm sorry the photo isn't bigger or better quality but it's all I have right now. You'll probably have to zoom in to see the screws properly.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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manilenyo · 3 March 2016, 02:07 AM

Not an AP expert, the alignment and spacing of be screws seems to be fine, the rotation of the screws' slots are correct too. Hope this helps.

gummy · 3 March 2016, 03:38 AM

Is this an AD purchase or Private party?

Looks correct to me but...

As the saying goes "Buy the seller".

If you're not comfortable move on.

kneedeep · 3 March 2016, 03:52 AM

Not an expert but look ok to me. Buy the seller is best info on here.

anothernewphone · 3 March 2016, 04:09 AM

The dial spacing looks off to me, but it could just be the photo. "Automatic" looks to be too high on the dial to me.

lapince · 4 March 2016, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

The dial spacing looks off to me, but it could just be the photo. "Automatic" looks to be too high on the dial to me.

Just looked at a pic the auto is placed right and the screws look fine as well, I think there is no problem with it at all, if you want a definitive advise, though at 90% it's good, get pics of the movement, impossible to fake well, it's the best giveaway

Manofsteelpt · 3 March 2016, 04:43 AM

Looks good to me (even the "Auto").

jjnd08 · 3 March 2016, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Looks good to me (even the "Auto").

x2. But as suggested above, buy the seller.

BlueIn2Red · 3 March 2016, 06:48 AM

Thanks guys, I feel much better now! The seller is fine - the watch is definitely genuine, I just thought the QC on the screws might be off, but you have to look really close and I guess it's part of the hand made joy of AP :)

csquared317 · 3 March 2016, 12:16 PM

I know exactly what you mean. I was thinking about that as well after I picked up my watch and took several photos.

I went online and took a look at a lot of other photos. They are all like that, you can only really see it if you look for it or you zoom in real close. This is my watch.

I think because the case is actually held together by the screws, when they torque down the screws from the case back it turns the screws on the front a bit so the alignment might be a little off. In addition the screws on the royal oak are made of white gold which is softer than steel. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe on the offshore the screws are made of steel so it might be able to withstand a higher torque?

BlueIn2Red · 3 March 2016, 09:46 PM

Yes exactly. To be honest my bigger concern with the watch I'm looking it as that a couple of the slots in the screw heads seem to be off centre (rather than just misaligned, which would be much easier to fix of course). I can see that in a very minor way on yours too - the screw at 10 o'clock.

BlueIn2Red · 4 March 2016, 01:43 AM

Actually having looked again that could be an optical illusion caused by the screw being out of alignment ... hopefully that's the case for my watch too (I see it in person next week so don't know yet).

fai9al · 4 March 2016, 03:40 AM

Looks perfectly fine to me!

Gorgeous watch though.

Watchurself · 4 March 2016, 05:35 AM

The screws near the 1 and 10 o'clock markers do look a little off in the pics, but could just be the angle. Looks fine otherwise!

AK797 · 4 March 2016, 05:36 AM

Looks real to me too, larger screws are often a tell.

Abdullasaif · 4 March 2016, 06:58 AM

Looks fine

SMD · 4 March 2016, 08:12 AM

No idea from that one pick. But if you have to ask you are buying from the wrong place.

beer · 11 March 2016, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMD

if you have to ask you are buying from the wrong place.

this

BlueIn2Red · 11 March 2016, 12:38 PM

I now have the watch and I'm delighted with it. I'll create an incoming thread with photos next week hopefully.

csquared317 · 4 March 2016, 11:32 AM

The way the light plays off all the different metals on the case makes for many illusions haha.

VICI · 4 March 2016, 01:20 PM

Bring to AP to be sure.

It's not a great pic but the bottom line is get it checked to sleep well at night.

BlueIn2Red · 4 March 2016, 05:53 PM

To repeat guys - the watch is definitely genuine (it's coming from AP!). I was just wondering whether the screw alignment and general quality was up to spec, because it isn't perfect. I believe it's relatively normal now though, and the alignment can be easily fixed (by AP of course, not me!). Apologies, I should have given more information up front but I didn't want to give any preconceived ideas as to what I thought might be wrong.

I see the watch in person next week, when hopefully I'll buy it :)

PJ S · 4 March 2016, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyGarton

...I have some concerns, but don't know if I'm imagining things or my standards are too high…

As per the bolded part of your comment, that’s all it is.

BlueIn2Red · 4 March 2016, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

As per the bolded part of your comment, that’s all it is.

Well, no. It's not perfect but very few of these watches are, and it can be easily adjusted. But I appreciate your opinion :)

Snow-Dweller · 4 March 2016, 09:41 PM

Looks OK to me.

lapince · 11 March 2016, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyGarton

To repeat guys - the watch is definitely genuine (it's coming from AP!). I was just wondering whether the screw alignment and general quality was up to spec, because it isn't perfect. I believe it's relatively normal now though, and the alignment can be easily fixed (by AP of course, not me!). Apologies, I should have given more information up front but I didn't want to give any preconceived ideas as to what I thought might be wrong.

I see the watch in person next week, when hopefully I'll buy it :)

Ok, that would have helped as it seemed you were more on the genuine then on the QC question, so yes it looks fine and is a beauty you should get it, when I see a blue dial I never get how it's possible to want any other dial color, but tastes right...

Hairdude1 · 11 March 2016, 12:59 PM

Congrats!

csquared317 · 11 March 2016, 01:45 PM

Congrats!!

How are the alignment of the screws, seeing this thread is making me look at mine and bugging me more and more. Wondering if I should take it to an AD and ask if they would realign them haha.

BlueIn2Red · 11 March 2016, 02:14 PM

They're fine (not 100% perfect but very close, nobody would ever notice without magnification), I suspect it was mostly the heavy plastic wrapping and low resolution photo that was making things look worse the they really were.

3 March 2016, 01:52 AM	#1
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	15400ST Bezel Screws Hi guys, I'd appreciate your input on the quality of the alignment and spacing of the screws on the bezel of the watch in the picture below. I have some concerns, but don't know if I'm imagining things or my standards are too high (!). I'm sorry the photo isn't bigger or better quality but it's all I have right now. You'll probably have to zoom in to see the screws properly. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

3 March 2016, 12:16 PM	#10
csquared317 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: HK Posts: 114	I know exactly what you mean. I was thinking about that as well after I picked up my watch and took several photos. I went online and took a look at a lot of other photos. They are all like that, you can only really see it if you look for it or you zoom in real close. This is my watch. I think because the case is actually held together by the screws, when they torque down the screws from the case back it turns the screws on the front a bit so the alignment might be a little off. In addition the screws on the royal oak are made of white gold which is softer than steel. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe on the offshore the screws are made of steel so it might be able to withstand a higher torque? Attached Images

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3 March 2016, 02:07 AM	#2
manilenyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: manila Posts: 2,541	Not an AP expert, the alignment and spacing of be screws seems to be fine, the rotation of the screws' slots are correct too. Hope this helps.

3 March 2016, 03:38 AM	#3
gummy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,348	Is this an AD purchase or Private party? Looks correct to me but... As the saying goes "Buy the seller". If you're not comfortable move on.

3 March 2016, 03:52 AM	#4
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	Not an expert but look ok to me. Buy the seller is best info on here.

3 March 2016, 04:09 AM	#5
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	The dial spacing looks off to me, but it could just be the photo. "Automatic" looks to be too high on the dial to me.

3 March 2016, 04:43 AM	#7
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	Looks good to me (even the "Auto").

3 March 2016, 06:48 AM	#9
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	Thanks guys, I feel much better now! The seller is fine - the watch is definitely genuine, I just thought the QC on the screws might be off, but you have to look really close and I guess it's part of the hand made joy of AP :)

3 March 2016, 09:46 PM	#11
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	Yes exactly. To be honest my bigger concern with the watch I'm looking it as that a couple of the slots in the screw heads seem to be off centre (rather than just misaligned, which would be much easier to fix of course). I can see that in a very minor way on yours too - the screw at 10 o'clock.

4 March 2016, 01:43 AM	#12
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	Actually having looked again that could be an optical illusion caused by the screw being out of alignment ... hopefully that's the case for my watch too (I see it in person next week so don't know yet).

4 March 2016, 03:40 AM	#13
fai9al "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Jeddah, KSA Posts: 413	Looks perfectly fine to me! Gorgeous watch though.

4 March 2016, 05:35 AM	#14
Watchurself "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 340	The screws near the 1 and 10 o'clock markers do look a little off in the pics, but could just be the angle. Looks fine otherwise!

4 March 2016, 05:36 AM	#15
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Looks real to me too, larger screws are often a tell.

4 March 2016, 06:58 AM	#16
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	Looks fine

4 March 2016, 08:12 AM	#17
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,701	No idea from that one pick. But if you have to ask you are buying from the wrong place.

11 March 2016, 12:38 PM	#19
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	I now have the watch and I'm delighted with it. I'll create an incoming thread with photos next week hopefully.

4 March 2016, 11:32 AM	#20
csquared317 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: HK Posts: 114	The way the light plays off all the different metals on the case makes for many illusions haha.

4 March 2016, 01:20 PM	#21
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	Bring to AP to be sure. It's not a great pic but the bottom line is get it checked to sleep well at night.

4 March 2016, 05:53 PM	#22
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	To repeat guys - the watch is definitely genuine (it's coming from AP!). I was just wondering whether the screw alignment and general quality was up to spec, because it isn't perfect. I believe it's relatively normal now though, and the alignment can be easily fixed (by AP of course, not me!). Apologies, I should have given more information up front but I didn't want to give any preconceived ideas as to what I thought might be wrong. I see the watch in person next week, when hopefully I'll buy it :)

11 March 2016, 01:45 PM	#28
csquared317 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: HK Posts: 114	Congrats!! How are the alignment of the screws, seeing this thread is making me look at mine and bugging me more and more. Wondering if I should take it to an AD and ask if they would realign them haha.

11 March 2016, 02:14 PM	#29
BlueIn2Red "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK Posts: 219	They're fine (not 100% perfect but very close, nobody would ever notice without magnification), I suspect it was mostly the heavy plastic wrapping and low resolution photo that was making things look worse the they really were.

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