Why is the Cellini range unloved?

[peterskinner]

Just that. They seem elegant, have the same movement as the sports watches, are reasonably water-resistant and just seem fine watches. Easily tough enough for the lives of many people. After all, a few decades ago, most active people wore watches like these all the time. With no trouble..
But people on the forum barely acknowledge their existence. Why?

[Old Expat Beast]

This question comes up quite often here. The general consensus usually seems to be that other brands make more attractive dress watches at a similar price.

[Alpino]

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Do you like them ? Do you have one ? do you know why for yourself ?

[Tony-GB]

Strange that you post this. I've actually started looking into the Cellini range as have always admired from afar and am looking to actually buy one now. I've recently PM'd a member here regarding his experience on one and am awaiting a response (albeit an older reference in platinum. This one: http://www.watchclub.com/w7181/rolex...-dial-platinum )

I think the WG blue dialed is a stunner and is most likely the one I'll settle on. My one criticism of this piece is the date indicator hand should be the same as the time hands. They got the strap to follow the case shape so to overlook this minor detail of the date hand is a teeny bit sloppy:

[JayB]

I love the Cellini Time, maybe one day I'll be lucky enough to purchase one.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Strange that you post this. I've actually started looking into the Cellini range as have always admired from afar and am looking to actually buy one now. I've recently PM'd a member here regarding his experience on one and am awaiting a response (albeit an older reference in platinum.

I think the WG blue dialed is a stunner and is most likely the one I'll settle on. My one criticism of this piece is the date indicator hand should be the same as the time hands. They got the strap to follow the case shape so to overlook this minor detail of the date hand is a teeny bit sloppy:

The sub dial hands are the same on the Daytona, not quite a match to the hands. I don't think they missed the detail, I think that's the way they do it.

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Strange that you post this. I've actually started looking into the Cellini range as have always admired from afar and am looking to actually buy one now. I've recently PM'd a member here regarding his experience on one and am awaiting a response (albeit an older reference in platinum. This one: http://www.watchclub.com/w7181/rolex...-dial-platinum )

I think the WG blue dialed is a stunner and is most likely the one I'll settle on. My one criticism of this piece is the date indicator hand should be the same as the time hands. They got the strap to follow the case shape so to overlook this minor detail of the date hand is a teeny bit sloppy:

I get what you are saying but for roughly half a month, 1st - 15th, the minute and hour hand can cover the same area of the watch a certain times of the day. Having a different hand could help someone read the date or time with a quick glance without confusing the two hands.

I like the Cellini's and attended the GTG in 2016 in Houston which had the regional manager from Rolex give a presentation on the Cellini and it's updated movement with all the shock absorption bells and whistles the sports models come with. The downside IMO is the price, as has been said lots of other watches come into play in the mid to high 20's that are more desirable and probably hold value better than the Cellini.

[kromdom]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This question comes up quite often here.

He speaks the truth. Here is the most recent thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...hlight=cellini

[peterskinner]

I just read that; interesting. But it confirms my suspicion that this is a matter of fashion, rather than reality. There's no reason I can see why a so-called 'dress watch' can't be used as an everyday watch. it's decently waterproof and has a rugged movement with excellent shock resistance. So what's the problem?
If people are really doing seriously rugged activities, they don't wear expensive watches anyway. A Submariner can get scratched and chipped just as much as a Cellini. This is really all part of the trend toward something called 'lifestyle'...you know, people driving massive four-wheel drive vehicles to the supermarket.
The Subs and GMTs and so-on are not worn by divers and pilots, it's harmless make-believe. The sober appearance of a Cellini might be seen as rather more spirited and independent.

[Cimballi]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This question comes up quite often here. The general consensus usually seems to be that other brands make more attractive dress watches at a similar price.

Yes. "Attractive" as in "better".

[travisb]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This question comes up quite often here. The general consensus usually seems to be that other brands make more attractive dress watches at a similar price.

This is the case for me.
AP
Patek
IWC
JLC

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

This question comes up quite often here. The general consensus usually seems to be that other brands make more attractive dress watches at a similar price.

^^^ This was the answer a year ago and nothing has changed.

[Muzz]

I personally love them!!! I would love to see them more frequent in incoming threads.

I feel like I need one but am a little indecisive as to which model. I favour the Price but I need to get more acquainted with the models (I believe the Prince is discontinued).

I have been dressing a little more casual in the office or I probably would have already looked into it.

[peterskinner]

Originally Posted by Muzz

I personally love them!!! I would love to see them more frequent in incoming threads.

I feel like I need one but am a little indecisive as to which model. I favour the Price but I need to get more acquainted with the models (I believe the Prince is discontinued).

I have been dressing a little more casual in the office or I probably would have already looked into it.

I have a Prince, partly because it is unique among Rolex models..manual wind, display back, elaborate decoration.
I asked about the Cellini range because I am, vaguely, wondering whether to go for a Cellini 'time' model.
I take the point about rival manufacturers offering tempting choices, but for me, Rolex is Rolex.

[Rachaphon]

At that price I get an A Lange and Sohne 1815 or even Saxonia. I feel that they are much more refine. That's my honest opinion.

[peterskinner]

Originally Posted by Rachaphon

At that price I get an A Lange and Sohne 1815 or even Saxonia. I feel that they are much more refine. That's my honest opinion.

Gorgeous watches; I like them a lot. But they cost at least 50% more. And they won't have the same superb service back-up, being a small part of Richemont. I also like, and have owned, JLC. Took me four months to get it serviced.
It's the back-up with Rolex that is so reassuring. To me, anyway.

[Rachaphon]

Originally Posted by peterskinner

Gorgeous watches; I like them a lot. But they cost at least 50% more. And they won't have the same superb service back-up, being a small part of Richemont. I also like, and have owned, JLC. Took me four months to get it serviced.
It's the back-up with Rolex that is so reassuring. To me, anyway.

That's true! However, I kinda like the display case back and the fine finishing. I guess it's a trade off I'll have to live with. I haven't had any chance of owing a Lange yet. I sure hope I'll get there some day!

I also wouldn't mind the Celleni at all if it has a display case back with a refined finished and decoration

[beshannon]

In my case I prefer the sports models.

I have no idea why or even if the Cellini line is "unloved".

[1William]

I think that most members like the Cellini line but for the price, both new and used, there are a lot of other options on the market. I have always wanted to try a JLC dress watch and would go there first before the Rolex. In the sport line I would give it to Rolex all day long. I think they do it the best.

[landroverking]

I think a lot of it has to do with folks wanting a Rolex that screams
"Look I wear Rolex"

[speedolex]

Originally Posted by landroverking

I think a lot of it has to do with folks wanting a Rolex that screams
"Look I wear Rolex"

It's definitely that for the 99% of the public that can afford a watch in this segment. For the 1% of the buying public who knows better, I believe the answer is that Cellini's are positively boring.

Additionally, every great watch company has that "signature" watch, the one piece you can go back to that is an all-time classic. Submariner or Datejust for Rolex, Speedmaster or Seamaster for Omega, Carrera or Monaco for Heuer, you know the rest. Cellini has no such moment, so it doesn't connect with it's intended audience.

[kromdom]

Originally Posted by speedolex

Additionally, every great watch company has that "signature" watch, the one piece you can go back to that is an all-time classic. Submariner or Datejust for Rolex, Speedmaster or Seamaster for Omega, Carrera or Monaco for Heuer, you know the rest.

very insightful and I am living proof......exactly why i picked a Sub, Seamaster and Carrera

[liu_watch]

Because:

A) rolex have successfully advertised their watches as professional sports watches. Cellini is not such a model. Plus, datejust fills that void and has longer history.

B) Can't just throw in a base caliber from steel sports model and call it a dress. Consumers looking for a dress watch, in precious metal and at price point, would desire a well finished mov't (preferably a manual). But rolex is not famed for their back side, nor is it their intention.

C) too many rivaries in the dress segment, one that is dominated by VC, Lange, JLC, Chopard, etc. While the retail prices of some of these are higher, after discount prices are not that far apart. Plus, if one can afford a Cellini, s/he can certainly cough up a few more grands to buy what's desired.

D) because of the above, the resale value is dismal - a consideration for some consumers.

My thoughts only.

And personally I like the white dial time-only model. All others have that sunburst dial I do not care for.

Cheers

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by liu_watch

Because:

A) rolex have successfully advertised their watches as professional sports watches. Cellini is not such a model. Plus, datejust fills that void and has longer history.

B) Can't just throw in a base caliber from steel sports model and call it a dress. Consumers looking for a dress watch, in precious metal and at price point, would desire a well finished mov't (preferably a manual). But rolex is not famed for their back side, nor is it their intention.

C) too many rivaries in the dress segment, one that is dominated by VC, Lange, JLC, Chopard, etc. While the retail prices of some of these are higher, after discount prices are not that far apart. Plus, if one can afford a Cellini, s/he can certainly cough up a few more grands to buy what's desired.

D) because of the above, the resale value is dismal - a consideration for some consumers.

My thoughts only.

And personally I like the white dial time-only model. All others have that sunburst dial I do not care for.

Cheers

That pretty well covers it for me.

[keylargotime]

I have the Cellini Date- WG with black dial.

Simply put, could not find a more striking dress watch. Rolex makes solid calibers, why would the 3165 be any different?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by liu_watch

Because:

A) rolex have successfully advertised their watches as professional sports watches. Cellini is not such a model. Plus, datejust fills that void and has longer history.

B) Can't just throw in a base caliber from steel sports model and call it a dress. Consumers looking for a dress watch, in precious metal and at price point, would desire a well finished mov't (preferably a manual). But rolex is not famed for their back side, nor is it their intention.

C) too many rivaries in the dress segment, one that is dominated by VC, Lange, JLC, Chopard, etc. While the retail prices of some of these are higher, after discount prices are not that far apart. Plus, if one can afford a Cellini, s/he can certainly cough up a few more grands to buy what's desired.

D) because of the above, the resale value is dismal - a consideration for some consumers.

My thoughts only.

And personally I like the white dial time-only model. All others have that sunburst dial I do not care for.

Cheers

These are good points, I think they look great from the front, but dress watches need also to look good from the back to really catch fire.

[GoingPlaces]

I think everyone would agree that the Celiini's are good looking watches. Question is, if they had another name on the dial with the same finishing(maybe w/clear caseback) and quality movement, would they sell better? I think they might.

[jackass266]

They are beautifull watches however they don't compare to a lange 1815 chronograph or a lange datograph. Cause of the loss of value I would however buy those second hand.

[AboutTime]

I have the Cellini Date in rose gold with the silver dial. I have owned gold watches from JLC and Patek which were very attractive but, nonetheless, I sold them and bought a Cellini. I admire watches from the "more sophisticated" brands like PP and VC but I prefer to own Rolex.

[SA1]

I saw Cellinis a few weeks ago at Mayors in Miami. Aesthetically, I thought they they blew away comparable IWC. Beautiful watches, but you have a selction in the price range.