Before picking up my SD4K tomorrow, just wonderin..

[steveng01]

Have spent quite some time researching and hunting for SD4K and finally I am getting it. Before picking it up tomorrow, I am curious to know why DSSD and SUBc are more popular than SD4K. Any thoughts?
My local AD gave me a better deal on SD4K, because according to their sales figures ,it is less demanded compared to the other two. I also noticed the grey market price as new in Japan is more than 25% off of AD's. Quite a difference I must say.

I personally prefer the size and cleaner look of SD4K over DSSD and Subc.

[roadie1]

No idea why they sell for less and take such a huge depreciation hit but I much prefer the SDC over the other two models. Congrats!

[LuminousMaximus]

I think because it's a special and unique Rolex, with attributes that far supersede those of an ordinary Rolex...

[tifosi]

I think SeaDwellers are a lot less popular in the non-WIS communities.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by tifosi

I think SeaDwellers are a lot less popular in the non-WIS communities.

Indeed.

E.g. here in Hong Kong, where a Rolex is as common as a vespa in Rome ;), you definitely don't run into a S-D very often.

Cheers,
Joe

[PatrickJ]

Originally Posted by tifosi

I think SeaDwellers are a lot less popular in the non-WIS communities.

Good point

[Rocco21]

The watch is beautiful and I don't understand the price drops on it.I had one and regret selling it all the time.its a great piece so who cares why just get it and enjoy it.

[bdex75]

I have never understood this. The clean crystal of the ND sub with a date. Thinner than a dssd. Better proportioned than them both.

Blows my mind why it is not more popular.


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[japenney]

guys this is not rocket science. The 116600 costs $2500 more than the submariner. Your average Joe on the street walks into a Rolex AD and gets the submariner. Lets say for a second that someone has the chance to view a sd4k and a submariner next to eachother and they slightly prefer the sd4k. They still probably are not going to pony up an extra $2500.

I agree that it is a great buy preowned. And if i was looking for a black dive watch a preowned sd4k would be high on the list. But I would probably go with a 114060 because its just as beautiful and several thousand less.

[dcash0615]

This is my opinion as well. Don't get me wrong, SD4K is a great watch.

Originally Posted by japenney

guys this is not rocket science. The 116600 costs $2500 more than the submariner. Your average Joe on the street walks into a Rolex AD and gets the submariner. Lets say for a second that someone has the chance to view a sd4k and a submariner next to eachother and they slightly prefer the sd4k. They still probably are not going to pony up an extra $2500.

I agree that it is a great buy preowned. And if i was looking for a black dive watch a preowned sd4k would be high on the list. But I would probably go with a 114060 because its just as beautiful and several thousand less.

[Ritch99]

Originally Posted by japenney

guys this is not rocket science. The 116600 costs $2500 more than the submariner. Your average Joe on the street walks into a Rolex AD and gets the submariner. Lets say for a second that someone has the chance to view a sd4k and a submariner next to eachother and they slightly prefer the sd4k. They still probably are not going to pony up an extra $2500.

I agree that it is a great buy preowned. And if i was looking for a black dive watch a preowned sd4k would be high on the list. But I would probably go with a 114060 because its just as beautiful and several thousand less.

This may be....however, I went to the local AD, hell bent on a 116610LN. I had it on my wrist by the counter, and then it occured to me "Hey, what about the Deep Sea?"

I tried the DSSD on and it was a no brainer. Even though it was 3,500.00 more, I purchased the DSSD immediately. Incidentally, the SD4K was not available then. I have since bought both the Sub C date and SD4K.

My point being on a side by side comparison, I did go for the, in my mind, superior watch, regardless of price.

Cheers.

[japenney]

Originally Posted by Ritch99

This may be....however, I went to the local AD, hell bent on a 116610LN. I had it on my wrist by the counter, and then it occured to me "Hey, what about the Deep Sea?"

I tried the DSSD on and it was a no brainer. Even though it was 3,500.00 more, I purchased the DSSD immediately. Incidentally, the SD4K was not available then. I have since bought both the Sub C date and SD4K.

My point being on a side by side comparison, I did go for the, in my mind, superior watch, regardless of price.

Cheers.

Your not the average Joe if you can afford to but all 3 ;). Perhaps you are a little more well to do than the majority. Just speculation. Congrats on your purchases.

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[steveng01]

Originally Posted by Ritch99

This may be....however, I went to the local AD, hell bent on a 116610LN. I had it on my wrist by the counter, and then it occured to me "Hey, what about the Deep Sea?"

I tried the DSSD on and it was a no brainer. Even though it was 3,500.00 more, I purchased the DSSD immediately. Incidentally, the SD4K was not available then. I have since bought both the Sub C date and SD4K.

My point being on a side by side comparison, I did go for the, in my mind, superior watch, regardless of price.

Cheers.

Having all three is like having three types of gfs and you wish you could spend a dinner with all of them together.

[waterman1]

Originally Posted by Ritch99

This may be....however, I went to the local AD, hell bent on a 116610LN. I had it on my wrist by the counter, and then it occured to me "Hey, what about the Deep Sea?"

I tried the DSSD on and it was a no brainer. Even though it was 3,500.00 more, I purchased the DSSD immediately. Incidentally, the SD4K was not available then. I have since bought both the Sub C date and SD4K.

My point being on a side by side comparison, I did go for the, in my mind, superior watch, regardless of price.

Cheers.

I am curious. What is your wrist size and which watch has become your favorite? Your go-to watch?

[steveng01]

i don't worry about the resale value since I don't plan on selling any of my Rollies. But looking at the price difference between AD and the grey market made me thinking if the MSRP Rolex asked for SD4K is over priced.

SD4K is harder to get than Subc, yet it has a deeper discount. I read it somewhere that AD has to sell 3 or 5 subs to get a SD4K from Rolex.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by steveng01

SD4K is harder to get than Subc, yet it has a deeper discount.

I don't fully agree with this. I haven't had a hard time spotting a SDK4 when ever I've visited an AD in different places around the world (maybe London being the exception at the moment. But that pretty much goes for all SS models over there at the moment... ;) ).

If you read Josh's answer above, there's your answer. The AD's have a more difficult time selling the SD4K = customers tend to go for the Sub instead. I would even go so far and say that many Rolex customers have never heard about the SD4K before seeing one at the AD = AD's ship off this, together with other models, to grey dealers = you'll see the price difference between official AD/grey dealer.

And where did you here the last thing about "3 or 5 subs to get a SD4K from Rolex"? Never heard about this, and again, never had any difficulties spotting a 116600 at an AD. But then again, that's just my experience.

Cheers,
Joe

[phillycheez]

Yup.. It's just not for the non-wis.

The average Rolex buyer does not see the difference.

Fine by me... The discount on the grey market made it possible for me to enjoy the watch.

It's everything I've always wanted in a modern diver. Rolex made perfection with this one.

[steveng01]

Originally Posted by phillycheez

Yup.. It's just not for the non-wis.

The average Rolex buyer does not see the difference.

Fine by me... The discount on the grey market made it possible for me to enjoy the watch.

It's everything I've always wanted in a modern diver. Rolex made perfection with this one.

I was going to get a new one from one of the popular non-AD shops in Japan. But after doing some research, I backed out. The new warranty card and policy is an issue.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by steveng01

The new warranty card and policy is an issue.

Why would there be an issue with this?

Cheers,
Joe

[steveng01]

Originally Posted by multimedia

Why would there be an issue with this?

Cheers,
Joe

The old warranty card did not require swiping to activate and the new one does. Even the open ones might have been swiped and registered by the original AD long before they reached those shops in Japan. Some might say a month or two time gap isn't worth worrying. But it bothers me by knowing my brand new watch has warranty less than 5 years.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by steveng01

The old warranty card did not require swiping to activate and the new one does. Even the open ones might have been swiped and registered by the original AD long before they reached those shops in Japan. Some might say a month or two time gap isn't worth worrying. But it bothers me by knowing my brand new watch has warranty less than 5 years.

Yes, all true. OK, I'm with you. If it bothers you that you might loose 1-2 months out of the warranty, while saving +25%, then you should definately go with official AD. :)

Cheers,
Joe

[AF_Rob]

I prefer the taper of the lugs on the SD4K over the Sub. The issue I have with the SD4K is the thickness of the case, too much for me. Being in Asia, smaller pieces seem to be more in demand, so the drop in price/demand for the SD4K isn't surprising to me, really.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by AF_Rob

Being in Asia, smaller pieces seem to be more in demand...

Can't agree with this. You will find a ton of Panerai's, DSSD's, AP's, on the smallest of wrists.

Cheers,
Joe

[rollee1]

Hi Steve, Congrats on your new upcoming, it is a fine watch and you have chosen well. Can you let us know if you are going to receive the new glossy dial?

I think each have their loyal followers, but the D-Blue is simply too impressive (BIG) and the sub too traditionally a Rolex, making the SD4k a little out shined to the general public?
Prices are simply a reflection of seasonal supply and demand, I will not loose sleep over any hypothetical loss in resale of the SD4k.

I am sure you'll get tons of compliments and likes on watch-bus, I'll be watching

[steveng01]

Originally Posted by rollee1

Hi Steve, Congrats on your new upcoming, it is a fine watch and you have chosen well. Can you let us know if you are going to receive the new glossy dial?

I think each have their loyal followers, but the D-Blue is simply too impressive (BIG) and the sub too traditionally a Rolex, making the SD4k a little out shined to the general public?
Prices are simply a reflection of seasonal supply and demand, I will not loose sleep over any hypothetical loss in resale of the SD4k.

I am sure you'll get tons of compliments and likes on watch-bus, I'll be watching

Thanks for the compliment. Isn't glossy dial a rumor? I have seen the watch in person but didn't pay attention to the dial since it was all wrapped up in plastic. Will definitely post up pic once I get it.

[RXAPPP]

I understand your predicament. A previous 114060 owner I was leaning towards an SD4k, i just cant justify the price tag however albeit Im looking for a watch that will be worn as part of a rotation. Went back to 114060..

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by steveng01

Have spent quite some time researching and hunting for SD4K and finally I am getting it. Before picking it up tomorrow, I am curious to know why DSSD and SUBc are more popular than SD4K. Any thoughts?
My local AD gave me a better deal on SD4K, because according to their sales figures ,it is less demanded compared to the other two. I also noticed the grey market price as new in Japan is more than 25% off of AD's. Quite a difference I must say.

I personally prefer the size and cleaner look of SD4K over DSSD and Subc.

I have wondered about the same scenario being plausible.

If there's any basis of fact behind it, then the only reasonable explanation I can offer is that the SDC is neither fish nor fowl in the wider market place.
It's almost like a default position for those who are not willing pay the price for it and or feel comfortable wearing the DSSD due to the size and thickness but want something bigger than a Sub.
The SDC sort of lives in the shadow of the DSSD.
The other funny thing about the SDC is that it got much thicker than the old model.

No offense intended to devotes of the SDC.

[steveng01]

Thanks all for the comments. Will post up pic once I get it. I thought glossy dial was just a rumor?

[Dirt]

It's totally inconclusive at this stage.

[multimedia]

Originally Posted by steveng01

I thought glossy dial was just a rumor?

Yes. (The curse of the internet) ;)

Cheers,
Joe