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Old 3 November 2016, 12:09 AM   #1
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Tudor snowflake 9411 real or fake

I want to buy my first tudor watch
some one can help me to check the photo
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Old 3 November 2016, 12:11 AM   #2
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Looks good to me
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Old 3 November 2016, 12:38 AM   #3
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I want to buy my first tudor watch
some one can help me to check the photo
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What about this watch made you think it might be fake?
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Old 3 November 2016, 12:50 AM   #4
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Everything looks good to me. The only thing I notice is a service insert. Other than that, everything looks original and in great condition.
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Old 3 November 2016, 06:21 AM   #5
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Everything looks good to me. The only thing I notice is a service insert. Other than that, everything looks original and in great condition.


Agreed!
The watch seems to be original and I'm very good shape.
The insert is a later replacement... the lume pip has not aged the way the rest of the watch has...


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Old 3 November 2016, 06:34 AM   #6
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Agreed!
The watch seems to be original and I'm very good shape.
The insert is a later replacement... the lume pip has not aged the way the rest of the watch has...


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Old 3 November 2016, 07:35 AM   #7
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Is the watch in italy? I was offered a watch with the same dial but with a fake movement, dealer was in Torino.
UnfortunatelyI can't find a picture of serial to check.
It looked the same and it has the same sign on minute hand.
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Old 3 November 2016, 08:59 AM   #8
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Watch is real but not happy with the movement. A 946K serial movement (only a few thousand from mine) should have a real nicely decorated 2784. I would also suspect the gold trim on the + - are missing (Classic Tip from John in Ma). Engravings are fine, case cut is fine. Insert is IMO original and not service - just a not terribly fat MK3. Same tight T SWISS T dial print as my blue (The Ts are closer to the SWISS than normal)

Unless it is cheap enough to justify getting correct movement I would pass

Movement from mine:

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Old 3 November 2016, 01:12 PM   #9
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Watch is real but not happy with the movement. A 946K serial movement (only a few thousand from mine) should have a real nicely decorated 2784. I would also suspect the gold trim on the + - are missing (Classic Tip from John in Ma). Engravings are fine, case cut is fine. Insert is IMO original and not service - just a not terribly fat MK3. Same tight T SWISS T dial print as my blue (The Ts are closer to the SWISS than normal)

Unless it is cheap enough to justify getting correct movement I would pass

Movement from mine:

It's mean the mouvement isn't original?
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Old 3 November 2016, 04:24 PM   #10
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Watch is real but not happy with the movement. A 946K serial movement (only a few thousand from mine) should have a real nicely decorated 2784. I would also suspect the gold trim on the + - are missing (Classic Tip from John in Ma). Engravings are fine, case cut is fine. Insert is IMO original and not service - just a not terribly fat MK3. Same tight T SWISS T dial print as my blue (The Ts are closer to the SWISS than normal)

Unless it is cheap enough to justify getting correct movement I would pass

Movement from mine:

Going to have to go against LS who I know is a Tudor expert.

There has been a number of variations of the 2783/2784 movements in the submariner. I think yours is fine - I might take a photo of mine (also a 94110 and with the same dial as yours).

But as a initial thought - it looks good to me.
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Old 3 November 2016, 09:44 AM   #11
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No problems so far, thanks for posting a number of pics it makes it much easier to determine authenticity! :)
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Old 3 November 2016, 04:55 PM   #12
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I'm pretty sure that I've seen plenty of non-decorated ETA/Tudor movements in Submariners and other Tudors from around this era.
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Old 3 November 2016, 11:04 PM   #13
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Going to have to go against LS who I know is a Tudor expert.

There has been a number of variations of the 2783/2784 movements in the submariner. I think yours is fine - I might take a photo of mine (also a 94110 and with the same dial as yours).

But as a initial thought - it looks good to me.
There are many variations - just not that I have seen at that range. Love to see it and I am OK if I am wrong - in fact prefer it

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I'm pretty sure that I've seen plenty of non-decorated ETA/Tudor movements in Submariners and other Tudors from around this era.

I have seen plenty of not decorated ones as well - but not in this serial range
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