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Old 3 November 2016, 09:59 AM   #1
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Serial Number - is there a value to it?

I have seen many pics and videos where the serial numbers has been covered or obscured.

I'm assuming the reason is to stop counterfeiters from having an actual serial number that is recognized by Rolex to put on their fake watches. Is that the reason why?

By going to random serial numbers does that matter anymore or not?

Love to hear TRF's rationale and reasoning!
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Old 3 November 2016, 10:17 AM   #2
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curious about this too... can duplicate a random on the same style watch.
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Old 3 November 2016, 06:04 PM   #3
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curious about this too... can duplicate a random on the same style watch.
No every case serial is unique to that particular case no matter the model reference, same for the movement serial.
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Old 3 November 2016, 11:17 PM   #4
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No every case serial is unique to that particular case no matter the model reference, same for the movement serial.
Care to expand Peter? Im genuinely curious on the topic... thnx!
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Old 3 November 2016, 11:42 PM   #5
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I always cover it or take photos where it cannot be seen. Just like with license plate numbers on the car forums.

99 percent of people who see the info won't care but why risk somebody getting the info and doing something negative with it?

Fraud and counterfeiters come to mind as main reasons why. Paranoid yes but better safe than sorry.
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Old 4 November 2016, 01:21 AM   #6
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I always cover it or take photos where it cannot be seen. Just like with license plate numbers on the car forums.

99 percent of people who see the info won't care but why risk somebody getting the info and doing something negative with it?

Fraud and counterfeiters come to mind as main reasons why. Paranoid yes but better safe than sorry.
It's nothing to do with fraud or counterfeit imo .if a criminal wanted to use a serial number from a rolex,they can walk into any ad and see the serial numbers I don't see why people cover the serial in pics,most don't but some do
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Old 4 November 2016, 11:20 PM   #7
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No every case serial is unique to that particular case no matter the model reference, same for the movement serial.
Very true Peter! I learned this from my AD.
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Old 3 November 2016, 10:19 AM   #8
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Well conversely, what benefit would come from showing the number short of being superstitious and needing a pretty serial number? Calling up Rolex isn't going to help in finding if the watch is stolen/lost and the police have a limited database/time on their hands to help you. You won't be able to date the watch with the new serials.
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Old 3 November 2016, 10:20 AM   #9
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Depends how much you info you want to share. Why expose a unique identifier if you don't have to?
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Old 3 November 2016, 11:55 AM   #10
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Depends how much you info you want to share. Why expose a unique identifier if you don't have to?
Agreed... IMHO that is the answer....

Additionally it leaves the control solely in the hands of the manufacturer who is the only one that can admittedly decipher the number, in this case it serves them more that the user, this is evident the moment they eliminated the prefix and and a consecutive in older models.

The functions to manufacturers serve as security measure, traceability, as a day code (if not purposefully since there is no apparent independent code), etc. If no other reason, to trace a lot in case of a defect, theft, fraud, etc.



Maybe one of these days a clever TRF member will invent a special Rolex "enigma" type machine that will tell us if a watch was built on a monday for instance Just by tiping in the "random" code!!!!

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I have seen many pics and videos where the serial numbers has been covered or obscured.

I'm assuming the reason is to stop counterfeiters from having an actual serial number that is recognized by Rolex to put on their fake watches. Is that the reason why?

By going to random serial numbers does that matter anymore or not?

Love to hear TRF's rationale and reasoning!
there's definitely value in a ser# but that would be a minor (but still valid) reason to cover it up.
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Old 4 November 2016, 01:57 AM   #13
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there's definitely value in a ser# but that would be a minor (but still valid) reason to cover it up.
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In this day and age all personal information is subject to abuse.

Although certain personal information is public and can be found with some effort or for a price, I don't see an advantage of advertising my address, phone number, license plate number, social security number, or even the serial numbers of my personal items on the internet.
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Old 4 November 2016, 01:17 AM   #15
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In this day and age all personal information is subject to abuse.

Although certain personal information is public and can be found with some effort or for a price, I don't see an advantage of advertising my address, phone number, license plate number, social security number, or even the serial numbers of my personal items on the internet.
Exactly Grady and if some members on forum were more careful, then they would not get there accounts hacked, and save the Admin team having to sort it out..
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Old 4 November 2016, 11:35 PM   #16
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In this day and age all personal information is subject to abuse.

Although certain personal information is public and can be found with some effort or for a price, I don't see an advantage of advertising my address, phone number, license plate number, social security number, or even the serial numbers of my personal items on the internet.
I agree. I stopped giving my full SSN# even for doctor's visits. I only show last 4 and X out the rest unless legally required.
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Old 5 November 2016, 12:10 AM   #17
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Thanks for everyone's great feedback and comments. Seems like not a huge deal that someone might see serial numbers but why give it and put out more information on the net if you don't have to!
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