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Old 22 April 2017, 08:18 PM   #1
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Zenith Daytona query please

Hi, i am lucky enough to own a new 116520 SS Daytona 2013 and, after a long search, recently treated myself to a 1995 16518 yellow gold/black strap with the Zenith movement.

Obviously the movements are different but i have noticed two characteristics between them that i would appreciate some reassurance with.

As usual when you pull the crown out to set the time on the 116520 the second hand stops. When you do the same on the zenith movement the second hand only stops if you rotate the crown to move the main hands backwards. Effectively moving the time backwards stops the second hand - is this characteristic typical for the zenith movement?

Secondly, when the crown is pulled out to just wind the Zenith movement there is more noise and a different feel as you wind it - again is this a typical characteristic?

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Old 22 April 2017, 08:46 PM   #2
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Hi

I also have a 16520.

Yes what you say in your first question is 100% correct. It is a PITA but that is what you have to put up with. After a while it becomes second nature and it eventually gets done within a few seconds. Practice makes perfect as they say.

Your second question worries me. My winding mechanism is as smooth as silk and very quiet.

The only other "moan" about the 16520 is that the pushers are harder to push than the later models but after a while you get used to it.

Hope that helps

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Old 22 April 2017, 09:06 PM   #3
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Yes — the 16520 Zenith based 4030 movement is non-hacking. And I find if you turn the crown to wind the hands backwards but just hold it still, you can actually get the second hand to go backwards.

On mine, hand-wnding is a little stiffer/noisier than on my 116600/3135 and smoother and quieter than on my 1680/1575. Having said that, it's probably due for a service.

It's a great watch — definitely one of the coolest iterations of the Daytona IMO.
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Old 23 April 2017, 02:07 AM   #4
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Thank you for the feedback, it is a lovely piece and a pleasure to wear. Thanks again.
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Old 23 April 2017, 02:17 AM   #5
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I have a 1969 Zenith El Primero...I need to try the the backwards winding. The only think I do not like about it is the non-hacking. Winding opposite way to set time also took some getting used to.
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Old 23 April 2017, 07:43 AM   #6
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I have a 1969 Zenith El Primero...I need to try the the backwards winding. The only think I do not like about it is the non-hacking. Winding opposite way to set time also took some getting used to.
Thanks for the reply, Can you explain non hacking
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Old 23 April 2017, 08:42 AM   #7
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Thanks for the reply, Can you explain non hacking


You cannot have the seconds hand stop at 12 by pulling out the crown. So precise time setting is not as easy as on a Sub for example.
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Hi, i am lucky enough to own a new 116520 SS Daytona 2013 and, after a long search, recently treated myself to a 1995 16518 yellow gold/black strap with the Zenith movement.



Obviously the movements are different but i have noticed two characteristics between them that i would appreciate some reassurance with.



As usual when you pull the crown out to set the time on the 116520 the second hand stops. When you do the same on the zenith movement the second hand only stops if you rotate the crown to move the main hands backwards. Effectively moving the time backwards stops the second hand - is this characteristic typical for the zenith movement?



Secondly, when the crown is pulled out to just wind the Zenith movement there is more noise and a different feel as you wind it - again is this a typical characteristic?



Thank you

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I noticed some other differences as well , posted them here
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=524148
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