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Old 8 July 2017, 07:04 AM   #1
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500k stolen Rolex watches

Seems to have been very organised..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-40531744
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Old 8 July 2017, 07:10 AM   #2
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at least no injuries.

thanks for posting.
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Old 8 July 2017, 07:12 AM   #3
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Here in the Chi they smash cars into high end storefronts late at night, grab stuff, and split. I get a kick out of these stories. It's a good shakeup of consumerist culture.
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Old 9 July 2017, 02:11 PM   #4
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Here in the Chi they smash cars into high end storefronts late at night, grab stuff, and split. I get a kick out of these stories. It's a good shakeup of consumerist culture.
I hope you're kidding. That's pretty twisted.

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I read the title and thought 500,000 Rolexes had been stolen.
Me, too. I was having trouble wrapping my head around that figure and how such a thing could be possible.
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Old 10 July 2017, 05:57 AM   #5
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[QUOTE=tomchicago;7736908]Here in the Chi they smash cars into high end storefronts late at night, grab stuff, and split. I get a kick out of these stories. It's a good shakeup of consumerist culture.[/QUOTE

It's what turns you on I suppose!
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Old 8 July 2017, 08:48 AM   #6
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I hope for swift justice.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:12 PM   #7
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I hope for swift justice.
This is the UK!

If we're lucky they may get put in some snazzy prison for a few months where they'll be groomed by the inmates into Islamic extremists
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Old 8 July 2017, 10:56 PM   #8
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This is the UK!

If we're lucky they may get put in some snazzy prison for a few months where they'll be groomed by the inmates into Islamic extremists
Ok, that was funny as hell. Ouch ! Ok, not funny funny but wow 😳
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:09 AM   #9
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I feel for the vehicle owners as well why steal cars like that to use and then burn out why not an old car.. (not wishing anyone gets their car stolen just think it's wasteful..)?
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Old 8 July 2017, 10:57 AM   #10
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I feel for the vehicle owners as well why steal cars like that to use and then burn out why not an old car.. (not wishing anyone gets their car stolen just think it's wasteful..)?
Audi RS's are fast cars to do your heists with and are easy to steel within 3 minutes when they have no Bearlock and OBD2 removal. Normal police cars can't keep them up. Together with the Quattro suspension 9 of 10 times they are gone.

They burn the cars for deleting DNA trace in it.
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Old 8 July 2017, 08:55 PM   #11
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Normal police cars can't keep them up. Together with the Quattro suspension 9 of 10 times they are gone.
Pursuit policies here are more to do with tactics than top end grunt...if they get away it's usually more to do with resources.
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Old 8 July 2017, 08:58 PM   #12
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Pursuit policies here are more to do with tactics than top end grunt...if they get away it's usually more to do with resources.


Here in Holland and Germany they use those cars to be sure they get away before cops are notified. And they manage it everytime when they are doing a wall cashmachine heist.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:17 AM   #13
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Inside job for sure
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:33 AM   #14
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Scum, hope these guys gets what's comin.
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Old 8 July 2017, 10:50 AM   #15
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Wow. Hope they get caught
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Old 8 July 2017, 11:01 AM   #16
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I read the title and thought 500,000 Rolexes had been stolen.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:00 PM   #17
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In London they would still be sitting in traffic

We have a major problem with moped smash and grabs as they can disperse so easily amongst the traffic, even if they are pursued, we have to stop if they remove their crash helmets, due to risk vs reward.
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Old 10 July 2017, 03:13 AM   #18
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In London they would still be sitting in traffic

We have a major problem with moped smash and grabs as they can disperse so easily amongst the traffic, even if they are pursued, we have to stop if they remove their crash helmets, due to risk vs reward.
We've even had bike crew thieves drive into malls and not only the ground floor.
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Old 10 July 2017, 03:20 AM   #19
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We've even had bike crew thieves drive into malls and not only the ground floor.
Yep, used to be my favourite AD. Then all the top people left and a new lot arrived.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:06 PM   #20
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Crazy. Glad no one was hurt and I hope they get their cumupins.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:54 PM   #21
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These types of crimes appear to be on the rise. I used to live in the Philadelphia area. The Tourneau at King of Prussia Mall got hit 2 or 3 times over the course of a few months. There was a string of similar crimes in CA not too long ago. I think they caught that bunch.
I don't think these stolen watches are being fenced for chump change so there must be a market for these watches or the crimes wouldn't be so prevalent.
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Old 10 July 2017, 01:27 AM   #22
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It cost them $100,000 in stolen car assets to get $500,000 in stolen watches. Not really very efficient criminals.
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Old 10 July 2017, 01:35 AM   #23
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It cost them $100,000 in stolen car assets to get $500,000 in stolen watches. Not really very efficient criminals.
They didn't purchase the vehicles, so, cost them nothing.
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Old 10 July 2017, 06:57 AM   #24
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They didn't purchase the vehicles, so, cost them nothing.

Bro, come on. The stolen vehicles are their stolen assets just like the stolen watches become their stolen assets. They could have just sold off the vehicles rather than doing the watch heist or used cheaper cars. By ditching two expensive vehicles during the second heist, they traded $100k in stolen assets for $500k in stolen assets and took on the risk of the second heist plus the jail time for the second heist if they get caught.

Not really smart.
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Old 10 July 2017, 08:53 AM   #25
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Bro, come on. The stolen vehicles are their stolen assets just like the stolen watches become their stolen assets. They could have just sold off the vehicles rather than doing the watch heist or used cheaper cars. By ditching two expensive vehicles during the second heist, they traded $100k in stolen assets for $500k in stolen assets and took on the risk of the second heist plus the jail time for the second heist if they get caught.

Not really smart.
Fair point RE the value but over here criminals only get punished for the worst crime. The time for each crime doesn't get added up like in the US. (A bit wrong as it encourages people to repeatedly offend till they get caught)

Also watches are easier to sell than cars. In the UK a stolen car is almost worthless aside from its usefulness as a car..You have to hand over a lot of personal info / history on cars and the buyer can do a check on a national database before buying .. if the names don't match up they will know it stolen.
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Old 10 July 2017, 09:32 PM   #26
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Fair point RE the value but over here criminals only get punished for the worst crime.
Not quite true, a crime like this would have multiple charges and could see consecutive or concurrent sentences. I am thinking aggravated vehicle taking, robbery or aggravated burglary etc...
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Bro, come on. The stolen vehicles are their stolen assets just like the stolen watches become their stolen assets. They could have just sold off the vehicles rather than doing the watch heist or used cheaper cars. By ditching two expensive vehicles during the second heist, they traded $100k in stolen assets for $500k in stolen assets and took on the risk of the second heist plus the jail time for the second heist if they get caught.

Not really smart.
I would bet that they already had a fence for the watches and the vehicles were just means to an end, the value of each being inconsequential.
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Old 10 July 2017, 01:37 AM   #28
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It cost them $100,000 in stolen car assets to get $500,000 in stolen watches. Not really very efficient criminals.
I know of a story a guy once stole an antique item we can't discuss here valued at £100,000, sawed part of it off to fit it in his jacket, and used it to rob a local store for £500 in cash, then discarded the antique.
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I know of a story a guy once stole an antique item we can't discuss here valued at £100,000, sawed part of it off to fit it in his jacket, and used it to rob a local store for £500 in cash, then discarded the antique.
think they turned it into a movie ,,,
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think they turned it into a movie ,,,
It happened locally but I'm sure it has happened multiple times over the country criminals are stupid.

Lock Stock is a great film though
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