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Old 12 April 2006, 10:48 PM   #1
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Union Jack 400 years old today

Here's a little known fact, it was 400 years ago today that James I decreed that the flag of Scotland and England (St Andrew's cross and St George's cross) be combined and flown on Naval vessels. It was not until 1801 that the flag of Ireland (St Patrick's cross) was added to make the Union Jack we know today.

Most loyal Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen most probably still prefer their individual flags, I know I do.
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Old 12 April 2006, 10:56 PM   #2
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Congrats to the UK on this momentous birthday.

We had 'Jack' in the corner of our national flag until the year I was born, 1965, when the current maple leaf flag was born. While I like the commonwealth connection, I'm happy we don't have the Jack on our national flag anymore. However, it is still in the corner of most Canadian provincial/territorial flags and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's still on our Air Force and Navy ensigns.

As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.
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Old 13 April 2006, 12:51 AM   #3
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As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.
Now that's something worth treasuring.
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Old 13 April 2006, 01:02 AM   #4
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Now that's something worth treasuring.
It absolutely is and I do. I've been meaning to get it properly mounted but I need a huge wallspace to display it. And even a plexiglass cover would weigh a ton for that size. So it sits properly stored, all folded up. But it's in great shape, despite a few holes.

It's made of wool and was manufactured in Peterborough, Ontario. Kind of cool that it journeyed to Europe and made it back from 'the war to end all wars' particularly cuz my grandad took about a year to get home, cuz he basically hitch hiked his way around the world on various ships, partying his 'arse' off.
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Congrats to the UK on this momentous birthday.

We had 'Jack' in the corner of our national flag until the year I was born, 1965, when the current maple leaf flag was born. While I like the commonwealth connection, I'm happy we don't have the Jack on our national flag anymore. However, it is still in the corner of most Canadian provincial/territorial flags and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's still on our Air Force and Navy ensigns.

As a side note, I have the full size (8.5' X 4.5') union jack my grandfather brought back from WW1, where this flag flew representing Canada at Passchendaele, the Somme and Vimy Ridge.
That is something very cool to have to pass on to future generations
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Old 13 April 2006, 04:13 AM   #6
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Good info, Adrian...thanks!

And, Padi, I like your flag!!
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And, Padi, I like your flag!!

That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.
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That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.
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That's because it's a stylized sheep with wings.
I Resemble that remark.

Y DDRAIG GOCH DDYRY CYCHWYN (roughly translated means the Red Dragon inspires action)The Celtic dragon also represents sovereignty, power or as in Pendragon, the Celtic word meaning warrior chief, the Red Dragon of Cadwallader is the true emblem Wales.And any association we Welsh have with sheep. Are wicked lies put about by the true aficionados,in the sheep world, the New Zealanders just ask JJ.
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Yes agree with you Adrian dont mind the Union Jack but prefer my own national flag.

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Here's a little known fact, it was 400 years ago today that James I decreed that the flag of Scotland and England (St Andrew's cross and St George's cross) be combined and flown on Naval vessels. It was not until 1701 that the flag of Ireland (St Patrick's cross) was added to make the Union Jack we know today.

Most loyal Englishmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen and Welshmen most probably still prefer their individual flags, I know I do.
http://flagspot.net/flags/gb-hist.html
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Old 13 April 2006, 12:48 AM   #12
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oops just noticed my mistake with the second date. Good link Frans.
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