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Old 10 August 2017, 12:50 AM   #1
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DRSD with MK2 Dial & Superdome

Anybody care to look this one over..........Dial luminous is white while the hands luminous is cream yellow.

Under a 10x it seems like there is a very thin to no luminous applied....could it have been removed at one point? Maybe is was never applied?

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Old 11 August 2017, 09:07 AM   #2
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:06 PM   #3
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:07 PM   #4
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Keep getting message that my posts must be approved by moderator.....bummer, image was included in 1st post.
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Old 11 August 2017, 12:08 PM   #5
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Anybody care to look this one over..........Dial luminous is white while the hands luminous is cream yellow.

Under a 10x it seems like there is a very thin to no luminous applied....could it have been removed at one point? Maybe is was never applied?

Most likely started flaking/cracking, uneven patina, etc over time, then completely removed by a watchmaker.

Price should be reflected accordinly.
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Old 12 August 2017, 11:32 AM   #8
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Most likely started flaking/cracking, uneven patina, etc over time, then completely removed by a watchmaker.

Price should be reflected accordinly.
I don't know about luminous never being applied, have you heard of this happening by Rolex? I will say the inconsistency of this piece would make it unwearable to me.

Price reflected accordingly would need to be a steep discount...
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Old 12 August 2017, 12:01 PM   #9
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I don't know about luminous never being applied, have you heard of this happening by Rolex? I will say the inconsistency of this piece would make it unwearable to me.

Price reflected accordingly would need to be a steep discount...
No, havent heard of luminous material not applied.

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Old 12 August 2017, 12:12 PM   #10
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The hands look original with the patina one might well expect.

The dial does appear to have the lume removed.....or it is a new old stock dial. One really needs to have a very close inspection which is not possible with the photo. What does the person who owns the watch say???
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Old 15 August 2017, 02:26 AM   #11
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Right click on image and open in a new window, I uploaded with a site that will allow you to view the full resolution image.

That said, I believe that I once read online that Rolex had dials without lume applied but I can't seem to find that reference.....The process of "washing" a dial's luminous plots would leave scratches or some kind of evidence on the dial afterwards no?
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Old 15 August 2017, 06:43 PM   #12
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I would be asking the experts ,Haywood,Mike,Jed,AndrewShear,Michael Morgan
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Old 16 August 2017, 02:22 AM   #13
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I would be asking the experts ,Haywood,Mike,Jed,AndrewShear,Michael Morgan

How should I go about doing this....PM them via the forum directly?
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Old 16 August 2017, 04:44 AM   #14
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How should I go about doing this....PM them via the forum directly?
At the top of the vintage there is a sticky on decent vintage dealers start there
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Old 15 August 2017, 07:34 PM   #15
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Difficult to judge, based on this one photo, but I think, that is not a washed dial....
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Old 16 August 2017, 02:39 AM   #16
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The watch is a 1.7Mil serial, case back is not PP but has the last 3 digits from the case serial and the IV.67 stamping, it's also a thin case.

As far as I can establish all the lettering on the dial, the lining up of the fonts, the spacing, The size of some fonts, the sloppy coronet and the presence of a chocolate dial have established this is an authentic MK2 dial.

The plots on the other hand are a different story, especially seeing the hands have the beautiful patina you would expect to see on a very, very clean example of a ref 1665.

The watched was serviced many years back and the crown was updated (triple dot) but not the tube.


Re-cropping of the dial from the full resolution image, maybe it makes better.

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Old 16 August 2017, 11:03 AM   #17
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fwiw, I own a very similar watch with similar looking plots. MK2 thin case DRSD, 1.7Mil serial. Original owner was my father, and then passed along to me some years ago. Unfortunately, I know little of the service history while he wore it.



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Old 17 August 2017, 10:17 AM   #18
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I messed up the image upload, but pictures can be seen in this thread.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=389037
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