Question for all you 114060 owners out there...

[Onequik135i]

Since I had purchased 114060 new from my local AD a few weeks back I had noticed the watch itself is running 4-5 seconds slower than expected. I had set the time on a few occasions by using my I phone clock (hours/minutes/seconds). If I am doing something incorrectly or is this common on all 3130 movements ? Thank you for anyone's input on here.

[Brenngun]

Typically you may lose a couple of seconds a day. How long does it take to lose 4 to 5 seconds? Could be your reserve is low. First make sure your to fully wind your watch. 40 x 360 degree revolutions of the crown. Then wear until you notice it has lost 4 to 5 seconds. How long did it take? If only a couple of hours to half a day then take back to AD for adjustment.

[SeaDweller50]

Rolex state minus 2 - plus 2 accuracy so you would be within your rights to take it back. Although try leaving watch dial up for at least 8 hours per day / night and that should help compensate.

[slide13]

don't use your iphone internal clock, it isn't always going to be accurate to the second. Go to a site like time.gov or time.is

Then track it over a few days and check different overnight resting positions if you don't wear it all night.

Mine runs about even on my wrist. -1s crown up, -.5s face up, and +.3s crown down. So with that info I've been able to keep it running right where I want it just by checking on occasion and adjusting my resting position overnight.

Now, I will admit I'm lucky and my watch runs very accurately, but most will run within +/- 2s per day and even if it was within 3s I'd consider that pretty reasonable. More than 3s per day slow, if it bothers you, may be a reason to have it regulated.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by slide13

don't use your iphone internal clock, it isn't always going to be accurate to the second. Go to a site like time.gov or time.is

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[Flier]

Originally Posted by slide13

don't use your iphone internal clock, it isn't always going to be accurate to the second. Go to a site like time.gov or time.is

Then track it over a few days and check different overnight resting positions if you don't wear it all night.

Mine runs about even on my wrist. -1s crown up, -.5s face up, and +.3s crown down. So with that info I've been able to keep it running right where I want it just by checking on occasion and adjusting my resting position overnight.

Now, I will admit I'm lucky and my watch runs very accurately, but most will run within +/- 2s per day and even if it was within 3s I'd consider that pretty reasonable. More than 3s per day slow, if it bothers you, may be a reason to have it regulated.

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[stwalker]

I’ve had mine for 10 months now and it has got more accurate during that time. It used to loose about a second a day, but now it’s spot on. Unless it’s wildly out, I wouldn’t sweat it. Just enjoy a fabulous watch !!! ��

[Onequik135i]

Alright I wound it 40 times and set time to Time.gov just now, give a further update in next day or so. Ty

[Bond's First Watch]

Mine, also a recent purchase, has gained a second in about three weeks.

[nikesupremedunk]

Mine is that way too. It loses about 5 seconds in the first ~3 days then it kind Of holds steady for a while and then slowly loses a little more after that.

Try laying the watch backside down flat when it’s off your wrist. It’s suppose to lose the least in that position. I do this and I also set it 5 seconds ahead whenever I set the time.

[Onequik135i]

Update since last week: After setting 114060 to Time.gov the watch seems to be running 7-8 seconds slower. I also wear a Grand Seiko Hi Beat diver (SBGH257) as my after work/play watch and set that to Time.gov last week also, & the Hi Beat is running 9-10 seconds fast now (go figure). Two totally different movements I realize but might as well set my only 2 watches that I own and plan to add a second Rolex SS diver during the course of this year.

[Warningshot]

Are you saying it's 8 seconds over a 7 day period? If so, then it is keep fantastic time as that's just over 1 second per day.

[Onequik135i]

I am going by Jan 19th when I had set the watch right after I had posted this thread, and as for the GS I had set that later that evening or the very next day (I forget exactly when)

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

I am going by Jan 19th when I had set the watch right after I had posted this thread, and as for the GS I had set that later that evening or the very next day (I forget exactly when)

Accuracy standards are based on 24-hour intervals. For instance, current Superlative Chronometer standards are +/- 2 seconds per day. If you lost between 7 and 8 seconds in three days, that suggests you're losing less than three seconds a day, but more than two. You probably need to try a few things, though, before deciding whether or not your watch is within specs. First, make a point of checking it every 24 hours. Also, try various resting positions overnight to see if they make a difference. For instance, assuming I wear my SubC daily, it gains less than a second per day if I leave it face up overnight. It will gain more if I keep it on a winder, but it will actually lose between 1-2 spd if I leave it face down overnight. Play around with your options, and keep a log if need be.

[Justinmg]

That’s not bad -2 to -3 a day. I’d just wear it and enjoy, don’t get hung up on a few seconds. Your only other option would be to send it to Rolex and be without for a few weeks and take a chance it comes back with a new scratch

[Onequik135i]

I didn't plan on sending it back only unless it was WAY off or got an influx of recommendations from some of the well seasoned members on here. I kind of figured the Hi Beat would run quicker due to 36000 Vibrations vs 28,800 on the 114060.

[Onequik135i]

I typically keep both watches face up on a plastic molded tray while asleep and wear the SubC daily but wear the GS some evenings though the week, but have been in the habit of hand winding both lately 20-30 turns in the early am before leaving my place to start the day. And as a side note I did hand wind each watch (30 turns at least) right before setting the time last week.

[RightYouAreKen]

You might find the watch tracker app (iphone) or similar helpful to track the timing of your watches. The app syncs it's clock with atomic time and lets you easily track the accuracy of multiple watches over time. It produces some nice graphs and allows you to tag timing increments so you can describe usage or resting position. Highly recommended.

[Onequik135i]

I will check out the watch tracker app, TY for everyone's advice. As of today my 114060 is running 19/20 seconds behind Watch.gov and as for the GS Hi Beat that is running 20 seconds ahead of Watch.gov (strange I know) but figured I would post this. Both watches were purchased new by me from AD's. I was thinking of having each watch measured for time by a local watch store in the area or a Rolex AD which is not so local if & when I can break away from work that is. I just downloaded Watch tracker app and reset my SubC to the Atomic clock setting, as of now it is right to the second. Only time will tell now !

[JacksonStone]

You mean time.gov? Also, when you say 19-20 seconds ahead or behind, over what interval?

[Onequik135i]

My bad, was typing during work. Yes Time.gov I meant to type, and as for interval I had set 114060 the day of this thread Jan 19th and the GS I had set the very next day on the 20th (SubC 19/20 seconds slower than Time.gov & the Hi Beat the complete opposite 20 seconds ahead of Time.gov). So in essence both watches were incorrect in a 6 day time span when originally setting them on the 19th/20th of this month. I plan to do the same to the Grand Seiko when I am home this evening and report back in the next few days, is there a certain day limit as to comparing the timing of a watch over a given 7 day period for example ?

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

So in essence both watches were incorrect in a 6 day time span when originally setting them on the 19th/20th of this month. ...is there a certain day limit as to comparing the timing of a watch over a given 7 day period for example ?

Rolex specs are +/- 2 seconds per day. GS Hi-beat specs are +5/-3 seconds per day. As you can see, "incorrectness" is built into the formulas. Being dead-on to the second is nice, but don't expect it. Based on the one measurement you have, the Rolex is at -3 spd, so it is *slightly* out of spec. The GS is +4 spd, so it is within spec. However, you'll know more if you are careful about checking them daily at the same time. Also, positional variance can be a factor, so try playing around with different resting positions when you take them off.

[Onequik135i]

Ok, TY for the advice. I never really got into checking the timing of my watches this closely till lately so yes I was a bit concerned more so over the SubC. I would much rather not send it back to Rolex and take the gamble of any scratches that could happen in their hands or ??? Wish there was a closer RSC that would take a look, maybe Mayors in Tampa could (I purchased in Ocala AD which was an hour plus drive away each way. I usually leave the 2 watches laying face up on a tray while asleep. I will check on both now more closely at least few times a day now. At least I know that my Sub “might” be slightly out of spec by 1 second according to Rolex’s guidelines.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

At least I know that my Sub “might” be slightly out of spec by 1 second according to Rolex’s guidelines.

One second could easily be explained by an inaccurate measurement, or could be changed by resting position, or even if the watch is fully wound. Unless you actually want to drop by a watchmaker's shop and have him check out the watch on a timegrapher (and it sounds like you don't), tighten up your checking process and see if you actually have something to worry about. You might not.

Or...if you don't mind dropping some cash, you could buy one of these. I haven't yet, but I probably should.

[toolr]

I've had my 114060 for a little over two years. It has consistently been -1 to -2 seconds per day when worn. I keep it on a winder, crown left (12 o'clock low), when not worn where it runs a consistent -0.5 seconds per day. The +/- 2 seconds Rolex set them to will vary depending on your wearing habits.

[Onequik135i]

My 114060 is running -3 seconds behind as of this late AM, keep in mind I had set the watch yesterday afternoon to the exact second to match Watch Tracker App which is EXACTLY the same time as Time.Gov (I held my iPhone next to the website while on my work computer). Now I really know my 114060 is loosing -3 seconds per day so it makes sense now. As for the GS Hi Beat I set the time late last night to WatchTracker and checked it this early AM it is running +1/+2 seconds faster. I might drop $200 on that Timegrapher on Amazon, you have me thinking on that.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

I had set the watch yesterday afternoon to the exact second to match Watch Tracker App which is EXACTLY the same time as Time.Gov (I held my iPhone next to the website while on my work computer).

Did you check the app this morning against time.gov? If not, you can't be 100% sure that the timekeeping of your phone didn't introduce some error. It may or may not have, but time.gov corrects for network delay every time you log on. Time.is goes one better: it corrects for network delay, then shows you how much it had to correct for.

Assuming that the app is correct, and your Rolex really is running -3 since yesterday afternoon, then yeah, that's a bit slow. Again, positional variance could be playing a part. A timegrapher would quickly show you how much, but you can figure out for yourself in a few days by changing how you rest the watch when you take it off.

[AEC]

Observe your watch's rate behavior across a few different resting positions. It's likely you'll find one that results in a gain, and then you can control your watch's accuracy by resting the watch in that position while you're not wearing it. My Explorer gains a couple of seconds/day while worn, and it loses about a second per day in the crown-down position, so I can keep it very close to null by resting it that way. I manage my Speedmaster Professional in a similar fashion. My Seamaster Aqua Terra (caliber 8500) is remarkably precise and consistent across different positions, so I just hack it about once per month. Omega has a real winner with that caliber.

[Onequik135i]

Thank you for all the advice on here, I am just a Rolex/GS fan personally but after all of this watch/time monitoring I am more knowledgeable on checking for accuracy thanks to you guys. I never really paid too much attention until now.

[crazymcmichael]

i observed my 114060 while i was not wearing it all time for 24 hous, just like 4-5 hours or so and it hasn't lost or gained 1 second. so it was exactly exact within the second when i started measure.