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Old 24 February 2018, 04:30 AM   #1
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Platinum Polishing - No loss of metal

There has been a lot of back and forth about polishing gold vs platinum.

Platinum takes more effort to polish, for the simple reason that it does not wear as other precious metals do; consequently, it doesn’t follow the same metallurgical rules.

Platinum has a “liquid” surface. Other metals lose mass over time – prongs wear thin, shanks get thinner, decorations such as Florentine or engravings wear down. All of these deterioration take a lot longer with platinum. The metal even scratches differently.

When you scratch platinum, you are actually just moving the metal aside, whereas other precious metals lose surface area.
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:31 AM   #2
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This is what I understand. Molecules merely rearrange.
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:35 AM   #3
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I've read about this.

Pretty amazing
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:41 AM   #4
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:45 AM   #5
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so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona?
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:59 AM   #6
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so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona?
Absolutely!!!!
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:03 AM   #7
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Absolutely!!!!
for now you will have to post a picture online so i can dream.
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:05 AM   #8
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so what you are basically saying is if everyone buys Pt, then the no polish army will stop their never polish campaign? Sweet.
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Old 24 February 2018, 08:14 AM   #9
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so what you are saying is we should all buy a platona?
Didn't mean to imply that.......

I want one but it isn't feasible now in my current life situation.

But, I just think it is a really unique aspect of the metal itself.

I think it would be real cool to own Rolex PT in terms of a YM with blue, rhodium dial and solid platinum bezel.

The YMs are very very pretty in real life and it gives you the opportunity to own the metal but in a more reasonable model.
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:46 AM   #10
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That seems to be the line of thinking yes.

I think when platinum gets all scratched up it looks beautiful and takes on a very cool patina. I don't own a platinum watch, but I do have my wedding band, which shows a lovely patina now
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:48 AM   #11
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And that's what makes platinum so damn cool.
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:57 AM   #12
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Platinum DD40s for everyone
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:00 AM   #13
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Platinum DD40s for everyone
Yup!

With the "ice blue, diagonal motif" dial
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Old 24 February 2018, 04:59 AM   #14
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:01 AM   #15
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that's why it costs so much more too
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:02 AM   #16
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I am gonna let you make this argument to my wife directly.
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:13 AM   #17
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Nickel and palladium are the same. The whole family are gummy metals.
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Old 24 February 2018, 07:28 AM   #18
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Nickel and palladium are the same. The whole family are gummy metals.
Nickel isnt a pgm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_group

Also msi makes a pretty nice gaming laptop.
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Old 24 February 2018, 07:46 AM   #19
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Alchemy aside, Pt group is Ni, Pd, and Pt. Their chemistry and properties are the same. Read the table vertically.
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:21 AM   #20
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Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.
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Old 24 February 2018, 07:28 AM   #21
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Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.
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Old 24 February 2018, 07:31 AM   #22
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Yet when we polish a platinum watch there is still a metallic residue on our polishing wheels, just like with any other watch.
do you get to keep it?

That adds up
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Old 24 February 2018, 07:34 AM   #23
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do you get to keep it?

That adds up
Not worth the hassle, try getting a micron or two of gold or platinum from a lot of dust and polishing paste, not gonna happen.
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Old 24 February 2018, 05:23 AM   #24
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There has been a lot of back and forth about polishing gold vs platinum.

Platinum takes more effort to polish, for the simple reason that it does not wear as other precious metals do; consequently, it doesn’t follow the same metallurgical rules.

Platinum has a “liquid” surface. Other metals lose mass over time – prongs wear thin, shanks get thinner, decorations such as Florentine or engravings wear down. All of these deterioration take a lot longer with platinum. The metal even scratches differently.

When you scratch platinum, you are actually just moving the metal aside, whereas other precious metals lose surface area.
Oh and next time state the source of your post, you copied something from a website.

https://www.ganoksin.com/article/suc...hing-platinum/
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Oh and next time state the source of your post, you copied something from a website.

https://www.ganoksin.com/article/suc...hing-platinum/
Yes. Thanks for including the source. Apologies but Jurgen is a very good friend of mine. We met in Germany when we were young and I do not think he would mind me paraphrasing from his article.

Actually, I wound up marrying his younger sister...Paddie (family named her after palladium).

If your opinion is different than his then I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

I am not aware of your credentials but Jurg (his nickname from his closest friends) and his experience I am aware of.

Hope this clarifies.

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Old 24 February 2018, 05:56 AM   #26
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If you keep reading the article, it goes on to say "It’s also good practice to frequently change emery papers and dress buffing wheels, as well as to recharge polishing buffs after each dressing. When polishing, you are actually removing metal, and some of that metal will adhere to the felts, buffs, and brushes. "

Be careful polishing any metal watches. I am not part of the "never polish army" but regardless of metal, when polishing some metal is removed.
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Old 24 February 2018, 06:03 AM   #27
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If you keep reading the article, it says this "It’s also good practice to frequently change emery papers and dress buffing wheels, as well as to recharge polishing buffs after each dressing. When polishing, you are actually removing metal, and some of that metal will adhere to the felts, buffs, and brushes. "
Exactly.

It's high density and it being oddly malleable makes it hard to remove metal and get the desired finishing. But metal is always removed during polishing.
If I need to polish one I'll properly clean my polishing wheels and show before and after pictures, I bet no one will ever question this again after that...
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Exactly.

It's high density and it being oddly malleable makes it hard to remove metal and get the desired finishing. But metal is always removed during polishing.
If I need to polish one I'll properly clean my polishing wheels and show before and after pictures, I bet no one will ever question this again after that...
Every watchmaker I've spoken to seems to agree on this yet this internet myth seems to perpetuate lol......what's true is it's extremely difficult to polish platinum and it takes much more labor to do it. You will lose metal when you polish the hell out of it....just takes much more effort and far longer than say stainless/gold.
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I’ve got a platinum wedding band. I’ve never had it shined up.



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Old 24 February 2018, 07:49 AM   #30
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