Case engraving

[yippie123]

Not too sure if appropriate but saw a nice reference for sales in Garage sales and the case engravings are very much off to my eyes. Im new to vintage, is this the norm in vintage pieces?

[yippie123]

More photo

[yippie123]

Another ref

[037]

Looks correct to my eyes for a mid- to late-'60s 6239 Daytona. They were engraved using a rather primitive transfer stylus type engraver and they always got hung up on the vertical broach lines, casing the letters to have "squiggles" in them. What looks off to you?

Posting photos of the dial and bracelet would help us determine more about it.

Heck of a watch to start into vintage.

Edit: The 6234 Chronograph looks correct as well for a late '50s / early '60s model.

[yippie123]

Originally Posted by 037

Looks correct to my eyes for a mid- to late-'60s 6239 Daytona. They were engraved using a rather primitive transfer stylus type engraver and they always got hung up on the vertical broach lines, casing the letters to have "squiggles" in them. What looks off to you?

Posting photos of the dial and bracelet would help us determine more about it.

Heck of a watch to start into vintage.

Edit: The 6234 Chronograph looks correct as well for a late '50s / early '60s model.

Thanks for the info. I’m new to vintage so I thought the engraving should be more uniform and neat. So really can I say there is no way to determine if the case is genuine or not by just looking at the engraving as anyone could hv done the job pretty much that way.

[037]

Originally Posted by yippie123

Thanks for the info. I’m new to vintage so I thought the engraving should be more uniform and neat. So really can I say there is no way to determine if the case is genuine or not by just looking at the engraving as anyone could hv done the job pretty much that way.

Believe it or not, that's harder to fake than one might think. It's actually easier to use modern methods to laser or CNC engrave. The manual graver that Rolex used would typically be more costly and time consuming for someone trying to fake a case.

We'd really need to see the face/dial and bracelet for the full story, but everything looks good to my eyes in the photos you've posted.

[yippie123]

Originally Posted by 037

Believe it or not, that's harder to fake than one might think. It's actually easier to use modern methods to laser or CNC engrave. The manual graver that Rolex used would typically be more costly and time consuming for someone trying to fake a case.

We'd really need to see the face/dial and bracelet for the full story, but everything looks good to my eyes in the photos you've posted.

I hv seen and turn off a very well keep DJ 16018 recently which has engraving pretty much like that, everything else looks legit just I hv doubt on the case which I thought it might be aftermarket from “what the market says Italian made” case. Too bad I can’t find the photo again.

Any tips on how to determine if it’s legit case and bracelet on vintage piece in particular?

[offrdmania]

OP, you saw these watches at a garage sale?

[yippie123]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

OP, you saw these watches at a garage sale?

Yes there are in TRF garage sales

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by yippie123

Yes there are in TRF garage sales

Idk what you are talking about, but I am going to look for it


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[yippie123]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Idk what you are talking about, but I am going to look for it


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Oops, sorry. I shouldn’t call it garage sales. They are currently listed on rolexforums.com Sales section

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by yippie123

Oops, sorry. I shouldn’t call it garage sales. They are currently listed on rolexforums.com Sales section

AHHHHH, I was about ready to ask you for the address of this garage sale

[yippie123]

Engraving on these few example looks good to me. I have so much to learn for vintage...

[037]

Originally Posted by yippie123

Engraving on these few example looks good to me. I have so much to learn for vintage...

Those are a newer reference. Over time, Rolex got better at engraving.

So far, everything you've posted looks authentic.

Post photos of the dials of anything you're curious about and we'll try to help. Dial and hands go a long way in value.

[yippie123]

Originally Posted by 037

Those are a newer reference. Over time, Rolex got better at engraving.

So far, everything you've posted looks authentic.

Post photos of the dials of anything you're curious about and we'll try to help. Dial and hands go a long way in value.

Yup. Dial and hand will be my next to learn chapter. Now I’m stuck as to identify a genuine and period correct case. It’s really a lot to learn.