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Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 03:20 PM

I spoke to a friend in the music industry who is a big watch collector and friends with other well known watch collectors. The watch that is secretly discussed and being bought up in complete sets is this one..

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 03:28 PM

Here’s the thought process:
The Explorer is an icon.

Short hands, an anomaly.

Made for a short run 5-6 years and was not highly coveted at the time therefore low numbers. Contrast that to the 1016 which was made for 27 years and is fetching big $$.

Many have and are being updated to full lume dial and updated hands either by request or done during service which means even less available.

White gold numerals and the slightly more glossy dial and more dial exposure by less hands equals a more “dressy” version vs the more sporty full lume.

Rolex collectors like mistakes and oddities.

There have already been cult like names given to the watch like short hands, T-Rex, etc. Cult status already in motion.

rolexpatek363 · 23 May 2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Here’s the thought process:
The Explorer is an icon.

Short hands, an anomaly.

Made for a short run 5-6 years and was not highly coveted at the time therefore low numbers. Contrast that to the 1016 which was made for 27 years and is fetching big $$.

Many have and are being updated to full lume dial and updated hands either by request or done during service which means even less available.

White gold numerals and the slightly more glossy dial and more dial exposure by less hands equals a more “dressy” version vs the more sporty full lume.

Rolex collectors like mistakes and oddities.

There have already been cult like names given to the watch like short hands, T-Rex, etc. Cult status already in motion.

This looks very like wishful thinking from an owner!

IAN1 · 20 April 2018, 03:31 PM

Hmmmm. Hard time buying that.

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN1

Hmmmm. Hard time buying that.

Stay tuned!

tyler1980 · 20 April 2018, 03:44 PM

I believe this more than the D blue or the SD 43 and pretty much any other watch people pre-emptively designate as collectible and then they prepare for that day by keeping it mint and in a safe. With so many pristine examples, it now never will be. The Explorer, i could see that, especially for one in mint condition.

9 times out of 10 collectibility is an accident and it catches people by surprise

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

9 times out of 10 collectibility is an accident and it catches people by surprise

Exactly right!

Speed · 23 May 2018, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IAN1

Hmmmm. Hard time buying that.

Same here...

And what’s all this about “secret discussions”

Is there some illuminati group who deems Watches “collectible”

Oh boy!

JacksonStone · 20 April 2018, 03:49 PM

The first rumblings of this were in 2010, immediately after the 39mm v.1 came out. People noted the short hands, said Rolex would correct them, which would make the short-hand version a limited release and therefore highly collectible. I think a lot of the people advancing this theory were joking, but they may have been more right than they knew. Obviously one part of the equation happened; it remains to be seen if the remainder holds true. Makes no difference to me either way, since I only buy what I like to wear. I never liked the v.1, so the collectors are welcome to as many as they can get their hands on.

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

The first rumblings of this were in 2010, immediately after the 39mm v.1 came out. People noted the short hands, said Rolex would correct them, which would make the short-hand version a limited release and therefore highly collectible. I think a lot of the people advancing this theory were joking, but they may have been more right than they knew. Obviously one part of the equation happened; it remains to be seen if the remainder holds true. Makes no difference to me either way, since I only buy what I like to wear. I never liked the v.1, so the collectors are welcome to as many as they can get their hands on.

The at first polarizing eventually becomes the most coveted. This has been a very polarizing variant. Pay attention to the secondary/used market. These soon are soon going to jump up quite a bit and then continue on an upward price trend through the years to come.

avega357 · 22 April 2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JacksonStone

The first rumblings of this were in 2010, immediately after the 39mm v.1 came out. People noted the short hands, said Rolex would correct them, which would make the short-hand version a limited release and therefore highly collectible. I think a lot of the people advancing this theory were joking, but they may have been more right than they knew. Obviously one part of the equation happened; it remains to be seen if the remainder holds true. Makes no difference to me either way, since I only buy what I like to wear. I never liked the v.1, so the collectors are welcome to as many as they can get their hands on.

Correction to your last sentence,

As many as they can get their SHORT hands on

MinMay · 20 April 2018, 03:56 PM

i won't be fighting over it :)

fskywalker · 20 April 2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MinMay

i won't be fighting over it :)

returntorolex · 20 April 2018, 07:35 PM

Interesting.....

flybynight70 · 20 April 2018, 04:02 PM

I've definitely noticed an uptick in interest and/or people posting about getting one (or maybe it's the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon?) I know I've been really close to getting an Explorer since the lumed dial debuted (2016?)

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by flybynight70

I've definitely noticed an uptick in interest and/or people posting about getting one (or maybe it's the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon?) I know I've been really close to getting an Explorer since the lumed dial debuted (2016?)

There’s definitely an uptick in price and demand. Prior to Christmas I saw a few in low $4,000 range. Now mid $5k and selling quickly.

Old Expat Beast · 20 April 2018, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

There’s definitely an uptick in price and demand. Prior to Christmas I saw a few in low $4,000 range. Now mid $5k and selling quickly.

I don't suppose you own one by any chance?

Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I don't suppose you own one by any chance?

Almost! I don’t hesitate when I gain knowledge.

brandrea · 20 April 2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

Almost! I don’t hesitate when I gain knowledge.

Gotta go with your gut I suppose.

Trying to predict collectibles is tricky business and not something Im smart enough to do.

dmash · 20 April 2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

There’s definitely an uptick in price and demand. Prior to Christmas I saw a few in low $4,000 range. Now mid $5k and selling quickly.

This could be in part due to buyers not being able to find other SS models in stock, not because the Explorer is ‘more’ desirable.

JR16 · 7 May 2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

There’s definitely an uptick in price and demand. Prior to Christmas I saw a few in low $4,000 range. Now mid $5k and selling quickly.

Nearly all SS Rolex watches have increased in price on the secondary market since Xmas

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Polarbears · 7 June 2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JR16

Nearly all SS Rolex watches have increased in price on the secondary market since Xmas

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For the most part true but what is unique about the short hands is not only have they gone up in value but they are disappearing. This time last year I’d see 5-6 at a time on watchrecon. Not anymore.

2nastie · 20 April 2018, 04:04 PM

The next modern collectible is already here and prices are already changing and that’s the SD4K made for only a couple years.

116710er · 20 April 2018, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2nastie

the next modern collectible is already here and prices are already changing and that’s the sd4k made for only a couple years.

+1

wfreed22 · 6 June 2018, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 2nastie

The next modern collectible is already here and prices are already changing and that’s the SD4K made for only a couple years.

This

jb335 · 20 April 2018, 04:14 PM

I think someone is getting ready to list a watch for sale...half joking.

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Polarbears · 20 April 2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jb335

I think someone is getting ready to list a watch for sale...half joking.

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I don’t sell watches. Flipping is a fools errand. Buy right once and hold on.

Russell996 · 20 April 2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Polarbears

I don’t sell watches. Flipping is a fools errand. Buy right once and hold on.

Do you like it or simply think it will increase in value?

ajas · 20 April 2018, 08:09 PM

It always comes a surprise so it is hard to say

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beshannon · 20 April 2018, 08:51 PM

Got it, big secret being posted in a public web forum.

20 April 2018, 03:20 PM	#1
Polarbears Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: MJ Location: NYPA Watch: 16570 Posts: 957	The next Rolex Variant collectors will be fighting over... I spoke to a friend in the music industry who is a big watch collector and friends with other well known watch collectors. The watch that is secretly discussed and being bought up in complete sets is this one..

20 April 2018, 03:44 PM	#6
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	I believe this more than the D blue or the SD 43 and pretty much any other watch people pre-emptively designate as collectible and then they prepare for that day by keeping it mint and in a safe. With so many pristine examples, it now never will be. The Explorer, i could see that, especially for one in mint condition. 9 times out of 10 collectibility is an accident and it catches people by surprise __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

20 April 2018, 07:35 PM	#14
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20 April 2018, 08:51 PM	#30
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20 April 2018, 03:28 PM	#2
Polarbears Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: MJ Location: NYPA Watch: 16570 Posts: 957	Here’s the thought process: The Explorer is an icon. Short hands, an anomaly. Made for a short run 5-6 years and was not highly coveted at the time therefore low numbers. Contrast that to the 1016 which was made for 27 years and is fetching big $$. Many have and are being updated to full lume dial and updated hands either by request or done during service which means even less available. White gold numerals and the slightly more glossy dial and more dial exposure by less hands equals a more “dressy” version vs the more sporty full lume. Rolex collectors like mistakes and oddities. There have already been cult like names given to the watch like short hands, T-Rex, etc. Cult status already in motion.

20 April 2018, 03:31 PM	#4
IAN1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: California Watch: A Rolex of course. Posts: 1,067	Hmmmm. Hard time buying that.

20 April 2018, 03:49 PM	#9
JacksonStone Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,150	The first rumblings of this were in 2010, immediately after the 39mm v.1 came out. People noted the short hands, said Rolex would correct them, which would make the short-hand version a limited release and therefore highly collectible. I think a lot of the people advancing this theory were joking, but they may have been more right than they knew. Obviously one part of the equation happened; it remains to be seen if the remainder holds true. Makes no difference to me either way, since I only buy what I like to wear. I never liked the v.1, so the collectors are welcome to as many as they can get their hands on.

20 April 2018, 03:56 PM	#12
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	i won't be fighting over it :)

20 April 2018, 04:02 PM	#15
flybynight70 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: GMT-6 Watch: 16610 Posts: 11	I've definitely noticed an uptick in interest and/or people posting about getting one (or maybe it's the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon?) I know I've been really close to getting an Explorer since the lumed dial debuted (2016?)

20 April 2018, 04:04 PM	#23
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	The next modern collectible is already here and prices are already changing and that’s the SD4K made for only a couple years.

20 April 2018, 04:14 PM	#26
jb335 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The States Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 7,461	I think someone is getting ready to list a watch for sale...half joking. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 April 2018, 08:09 PM	#29
ajas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Will Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: SubC, Pam, Speede Posts: 3,146	It always comes a surprise so it is hard to say Sent from my SM-N935F using Tapatalk

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