Upset at rude dealer

[Rolexgal2017]

I know that discounts are available for two tones. My local dealer offered an okay discount. I decided to check an out of state dealer (while on a road trip) and he offered a measly $200 off the price. I told him I was offered a more significant discount elsewhere and then he said I should go back there and enjoy my watch when I got one (in a very sarcastic tone). I was looking at some jewelry, but forget that...

This is going to be my first Rolex and it just put such a negative taste on my mouth. 😕😑 When am I ever going to get one?

[joli160]

Does not seem rude to me, he gave you the only possible answer.

[SubMarin18]

I’m confused. You state you had an initial offer on one, why not go back there?

[bdex75]

If your local dealer (who would be the one to take care of any issues for you) offered you an "okay" discount I wouldn't blame you for checking around. But go back and buy it. The out of state dealer obviously doesn't want the business. Maybe they were sarcastic about it but it is not the end of the world.

You will get one when you go buy one somewhere???

I would go to the local guy and work him a bit more if you feel there is more to get and buy it or not.

[jstan9]

Originally Posted by Rolexgal2017

I know that discounts are available for two tones. My local dealer offered an okay discount. I decided to check an out of state dealer (while on a road trip) and he offered a measly $200 off the price. I told him I was offered a more significant discount elsewhere and then he said I should go back there and enjoy my watch when I got one (in a very sarcastic tone). I was looking at some jewelry, but forget that...



This is going to be my first Rolex and it just put such a negative taste on my mouth. When am I ever going to get one?

Rolex sells a lot of watches and many are very difficult to get. I just waited two months for an explorer II, an easier to get stainless model. Be patient. And be nice to these people in ADs. It makes a huge difference. Remember also that they don’t have much control, if any, over what they get from Rolex. Sure, some references sit in the case for awhile, but most turn over rather quickly.

I was thrilled to get a new Explorer II at list price! So, it’s all relative.

Decide what you want and don’t settle. And check out trusted sellers on this forum like davidsw. I got an almost new YM from him in February at a significant discount to retail.

You’ll get what you want at a fair price. Sorry you have to wait a bit, but that’s a common refrain for those of us obsessed with these amazing machines!


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[Jace]

It’s just business and there are always others out there. Don’t get insulted and keep shopping the best price. There can be huge swings. Also consider pre owned, where you can get the best discounts.


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[watchwatcher]

If that hurts your feelings, you need to get some thicker skin.

You told the guy you had a better offer...what did you expect him to say?

[josephvman]

+1

Do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

If that hurts your feelings, you need to get some thicker skin.

You told the guy you had a better offer...what did you expect him to say?

[cht]

Originally Posted by josephvman

+1

Do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

[jh225]

Originally Posted by josephvman

+1

Do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

Yup..........

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by josephvman

+1

Do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

[Texasjohn1970]

Originally Posted by josephvman

+1

Do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

Nailed it!

[jaySL350]

Originally Posted by josephvman

+1

do you really expect dealers to bid on who can sell you the watch the cheapest?

It sounds like the guy at the second dealer was pretty experienced, and sized you up accordingly, and correctly.

+2,,,,,,

[Muxi]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

If that hurts your feelings, you need to get some thicker skin.

You told the guy you had a better offer...what did you expect him to say?

It’s all about the choice of words. Give the AD some wiggle room to do you right, like “another AD quoted me XX price, but I would like to get it from your store if you could get me a better price.” Something like that

His above retort is a very normal comeback with sellers. Play a little bit.

[tyler1980]

Discounts devalue the brand. Good for the one dealer for holding the line. Watches on sale is about the least attractive thing for any luxury good


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[superdog]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Discounts devalue the brand. Good for the one dealer for holding the line. Watches on sale is about the least attractive thing for any luxury good


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Indeed. Agree.

Truly, I love this place. Love the friends Ive made and the camaraderie. But I’ll likeky start slowing my roll. Maybe just be a lurker for a bit.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Discounts devalue the brand. Good for the one dealer for holding the line. Watches on sale is about the least attractive thing for any luxury good


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Anyone who buys a two tone watch without a discount is a fool.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Anyone who buys a two tone watch without a discount is a fool.

people said that about SS last year too. If a dealer doesnt have to sell for a discount why would they? You are not getting big discounts in london on TT or PM, and they sell just fine without.

Maybe an AD that is financially struggling, but healthy ones are not as desperate.

This "entitled" to a discount is the issue. One dealer does so therefore all have to.

[rodo]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

people said that about SS last year too. If a dealer doesnt have to sell for a discount why would they? You are not getting big discounts in london on TT or PM, and they sell just fine without.

Maybe an AD that is financially struggling, but healthy ones are not as desperate.

This "entitled" to a discount is the issue. One dealer does so therefore all have to.

Because TT watches don’t sell. Howver they dont “have to”, unless they want to move them...

[Rolexgal2017]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Anyone who buys a two tone watch without a discount is a fool.

What's your experience with discounts on the two tones?

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Rolexgal2017

What's your experience with discounts on the two tones?

20% to 25% off. The SS market has nothing to do with the two tone market. They are completely different entities. Just like the PM market is different from SS and TT. They aren’t tied together nor dependent on each other.

[biscotti]

Originally Posted by ronricks

20% to 25% off. The SS market has nothing to do with the two tone market. They are completely different entities. Just like the PM market is different from SS and TT. They aren’t tied together nor dependent on each other.

That seems high, especially in current climate. With no established AD relationship extremely doubtful that one can get anywhere near that.

[Bobby T]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Anyone who buys a two tone watch without a discount is a fool.

Seems like there are a ton of fools then, paying/buying the new GMT CHNR at list price........is that what you're saying??

[hbombkid]

Sounds fine to me. What was the significant discount from your local AD? If you are solely looking for the best price and not looking to establish a relationship might want to check out the trusted sellers depending on the model you want. That might be the best price.

[Fleetlord]

Full price is the fair price in the current market.

There was no rudeness on the part of the dealer.

[jonnyz1245]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Full price is the fair price in the current market.

There was no rudeness on the part of the dealer.

For a two tone or pm piece? Anyone who pays list for a two tone or pm piece is throwing money down the drain. All of these are easily had at discounts. Always have been and always will be

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by jonnyz1245

For a two tone or pm piece? Anyone who pays list for a two tone or pm piece is throwing money down the drain. All of these are easily had at discounts. Always have been and always will be

So you've purchased a lot of TT women's Rolex in booming economic times?

The OP said it's her first Rolex and she based her expectations of a discount on a TT (and level of a discount...$200 by an AD she was offered as an unknown walk-in she termed "measly") on what she found out here on TRF, a place where 99% of posters are men, buy men's watches, and overwhelmingly prefer SS. A full 50% of those men have hang ups about wearing anything with yellow gold, or that something looks "too blingy". Almost none would wear something with diamonds. The number of women buying luxury goods who don't like some gold or diamonds is few and far between.

Does the above group sound like a good source for her to use when developing expectations of pricing/discounts, which is nothing more than a reflection of what's desirable and moves out of display cases? Transposing what's happening in the Men's Rolex world onto the Women's Rolex jewelry-watch world is setting oneself up for false expectations.

[jonnyz1245]

Originally Posted by CRM114

So you've purchased a lot of TT women's Rolex in booming economic times?

The OP said it's her first Rolex and she based her expectations of a discount on a TT (and level of a discount...$200 by an AD she was offered as an unknown walk-in she termed "measly") on what she found out here on TRF, a place where 99% of posters are men, buy men's watches, and overwhelmingly prefer SS. A full 50% of those men have hang ups about wearing anything with yellow gold, or that something looks "too blingy". Almost none would wear something with diamonds. The number of women buying luxury goods who don't like some gold or diamonds is few and far between.

Does the above group sound like a good source for her to use when developing expectations of pricing/discounts, which is nothing more than a reflection of what's desirable and moves out of display cases? Transposing what's happening in the Men's Rolex world onto the Women's Rolex jewelry-watch world is setting oneself up for false expectations.

Actually no I haven't personally purchased a bunch of ladies TT but I do know many who have so yes, I have a significant amount of first hand knowledge on this subject. Yes a discount on a TT womens rolex, at least in the US is readily available. The amount in question is based off a number of factors including but not limited too ones negotiating skills, prior or no prior relationship, where the AD is located etc. I would expect no less than 5% and possibly as high as 15 even in these booming economic times.

[CRM114]

Originally Posted by jonnyz1245

Actually no I haven't personally purchased a bunch of ladies TT but I do know many who have so yes, I have a significant amount of first hand knowledge on this subject. Yes a discount on a TT womens rolex, at least in the US is readily available. The amount in question is based off a number of factors including but not limited too ones negotiating skills, prior or no prior relationship, where the AD is located etc. I would expect no less than 5% and possibly as high as 15 even in these booming economic times.

Do you believe that Rolex sells more TT ladies watches, or all-SS ladies watches? Do you honestly believe that what holds true for men's TT in terms of desirability also holds true for women's TT?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by jonnyz1245

Actually no I haven't personally purchased a bunch of ladies TT but I do know many who have so yes, I have a significant amount of first hand knowledge on this subject. Yes a discount on a TT womens rolex, at least in the US is readily available. The amount in question is based off a number of factors including but not limited too ones negotiating skills, prior or no prior relationship, where the AD is located etc. I would expect no less than 5% and possibly as high as 15 even in these booming economic times.

Results will vary right across the board.
CRM114 is quite correct.

As an example my then fiancé was more than happy to let me do the negotiating with any prospective dealer when I bought her Wedding present(from me) Rolex watch.
We share everything except tooth brushes and she fully understands that I am a better negotiator with everything. Plain and simple
But I only negotiate where I feel as though I may get somewhere with it and
I try not to waste anybody's time or fail to respect their need to turn a dollar.