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blada4life · 22 October 2019, 12:34 AM

wondering....

can anyone look into it further?

Mark Image
Word Mark MILSUB
Goods and Services IC 014. US 002 027 028 050. G & S: Watches and parts thereof
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 88408841
Filing Date April 30, 2019
Current Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 665 Fifth Avenue New York NEW YORK 10022
Attorney of Record Peter Cousins
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...804:90j4q6.3.9

offrdmania · 22 October 2019, 12:41 AM

They may have noticed other companies starting to use the word and they wanted to make sure that they owned the rights to it. Possibly for a future release. If not Rolex then possibly in the Tudor line.

Finslayer83 · 22 October 2019, 12:41 AM

please please please be a 5517 re-release.

GarbanzoNegro · 22 October 2019, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Finslayer83

please please please be a 5517 re-release.

Where do I have to sign?

Rashid.bk · 26 August 2020, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GarbanzoNegro

Where do I have to sign?

You're place to sign is way waaaaaaaaaaay
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down on the list at around spot number 126,769 as of this writing. You are one of the lucky ones as the list is already in the seven digits.

All jokes aside(not really), just because of the name this will be harder to get than a Daytona. Knowing Rolex and how it looks forward, it won't look anything like the original except for just having sword hands, if that.
It will have a maxi dial, super case, white gold hour markers, ceramic bezel in a satin matte dial. I would love it, but a whole bunch of people that were never even into Rolex when the original was out will cry like babies that it isn't like the original.
*Or Rolex will give it over to Tudor to make something nostalgic as seems to be the norm.

scooba · 26 August 2020, 01:47 AM

Do we think this is a serious contender for the 2020 Rolex release

Rashid.bk · 26 August 2020, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scooba

Do we think this is a serious contender for the 2020 Rolex release

No, not even a remote chance.

JayHantz · 22 October 2019, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Finslayer83

please please please be a 5517 re-release.

I freaking hope so. I would be the first to storm in the AD and put my name down.

ChipotleBanana · 22 October 2019, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Finslayer83

please please please be a 5517 re-release.

That would make for a rather special Basel release, eh?

RTG · 18 December 2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Finslayer83

please please please be a 5517 re-release.

That would be super awesome.

Not my picture:

REFZ · 22 October 2019, 12:44 AM

Maybe it is used for a new milsub as the anniversary of the Submariner next year.

CalSRQ1 · 22 October 2019, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by REFZ

Maybe it is used for a new milsub as the anniversary of the Submariner next year.

would be epic.

AJMarcus · 22 October 2019, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by REFZ

Maybe it is used for a new milsub as the anniversary of the Submariner next year.

One can only dream. Of course it will be a twenty year wait list

djgallo · 22 October 2019, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by REFZ

Maybe it is used for a new milsub as the anniversary of the Submariner next year.

I thought the Kermit was already the Anniversary Sub????

Burgman · 22 October 2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by djgallo

I thought the Kermit was already the Anniversary Sub????

I thought so too.

Dsmith1974 · 22 October 2019, 12:55 AM

I was hoping to keep the lid on this until Basel, but since the cat’s out of the bag already..

This is the Milgauss-Submariner. Syloxi anti magnetic movement, sub super case and the iconic lightning bolt hand.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Uhtred59 · 22 October 2019, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dsmith1974

I was hoping to keep the lid on this until Basel, but since the cat’s out of the bag already..

This is the Milgauss-Submariner. Syloxi anti magnetic movement, sub super case and the iconic lightning bolt hand.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kestrel · 22 October 2019, 01:43 AM

That would be incredible. Currently the application stands rejected over us 4736630 for the identical mark for watches. Perhaps this was intended to provoke a dispute with the owner of that mark? Or not.

Stellite · 22 October 2019, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel

That would be incredible. Currently the application stands rejected over us 4736630 for the identical mark for watches. Perhaps this was intended to provoke a dispute with the owner of that mark? Or not.

Interesting. Rolex was certiainly the first milsub, but then there has been later brands to use it as well. It's an identifier not a trademark, so this should be an interesting court battle. Nevertheless, I am in for one for sure. Here is rolex info on one original milsub.

Kestrel · 17 December 2019, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kestrel

That would be incredible. Currently the application stands rejected over us 4736630 for the identical mark for watches. Perhaps this was intended to provoke a dispute with the owner of that mark? Or not.

Note this application was suspended on 12/10/2019 due to the pending cancellation proceeding against the current MILSUB mark, US 4736630.

GradyPhilpott · 17 December 2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel

Note this application was suspended on 12/10/2019 due to the pending cancellation proceeding against the current MILSUB mark, US 4736630.

The search was expired for the link posted and my search for "MILSUB" turned up nothing.

Kestrel · 17 December 2019, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

The search was expired for the link posted and my search for "MILSUB" turned up nothing.

Go to Tess and search for us application 88408841.

Click on TTAB status button to see the cancellation proceeding or the TSDR button to see the application status.

Link to Tess

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...801:3lzn9w.2.1

othertbone · 22 October 2019, 02:23 AM

Interesting hobby

Chiboy · 22 October 2019, 04:29 AM

It’s for one numbered watch and will be the millionth Sub produced, to be auctioned off in that one-off charity auction.

mmaggi · 22 October 2019, 04:31 AM

Or you can get this for alot cheaper. It has an ETA 2824-2 movement. I own one and luv it. -4spd.

https://images.app.goo.gl/DikVMB6aVShLNEvY8

Father and Son · 22 October 2019, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaggi

Or you can get this for alot cheaper. It has an ETA 2824-2 movement. I own one and luv it. -4spd.

https://images.app.goo.gl/DikVMB6aVShLNEvY8

I had the version one of that watch but decided to sell it because it didn’t get any wrist time.. a lot of bang for the buck..

mmaggi · 22 October 2019, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Father and Son

I had the version one of that watch but decided to sell it because it didn’t get any wrist time.. a lot of bang for the buck..

Currently my daily beater. Can't believe it's a $500 watch.

RootBeerGMT · 22 October 2019, 05:42 AM

Uh Huh.... and Ford is re-releasing the GT-40 again to compete with Ferrari after the movie hits the screens next month folks..... " Since the Cats out of the Bag"...

ZZZZZZZZZZZ......

Kestrel · 22 October 2019, 09:23 AM

Did Rolex ever use the term milsub in marketing or sales or was it a term bestowed by collectors, like Kermit or Smurf or Hulk (all Sub nicknames)? If it was bestowed by collectors, then perhaps Rolex never used the term in a trademark sense. The current registration holder is making (or was making) “sub” style watches under the name milsub. Check out his specimen in the trademark file. The current owner may not be using mark. Who is to know? But check back in December when the reply is due to see what Rolex does.

Also if a milsub does debut at Basel 2020, TRF will go bananas in anticipation.

lamnyc · 22 October 2019, 11:56 AM

If Rolex comes out with a milsub, the grey market will be insane. Daytona C prices will finally level out.

22 October 2019, 12:34 AM	#1
blada4life "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,044	Recent Rolex trademark: "MILSUB" wondering.... can anyone look into it further? Mark Image Word Mark MILSUB Goods and Services IC 014. US 002 027 028 050. G & S: Watches and parts thereof Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 88408841 Filing Date April 30, 2019 Current Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 665 Fifth Avenue New York NEW YORK 10022 Attorney of Record Peter Cousins Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfi...804:90j4q6.3.9

22 October 2019, 12:41 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,998	They may have noticed other companies starting to use the word and they wanted to make sure that they owned the rights to it. Possibly for a future release. If not Rolex then possibly in the Tudor line. __________________ TRF Member 11738

22 October 2019, 12:44 AM	#11
REFZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Martin Location: Netherlands Watch: The Rolex Way Posts: 1,471	Maybe it is used for a new milsub as the anniversary of the Submariner next year. __________________ 114060 - 116520 - 126334

22 October 2019, 04:29 AM	#24
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,572	It’s for one numbered watch and will be the millionth Sub produced, to be auctioned off in that one-off charity auction. __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

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22 October 2019, 12:41 AM	#3
Finslayer83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Tennessee Watch: DW-5600 Posts: 1,584	please please please be a 5517 re-release.

26 August 2020, 01:47 AM	#6
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	Do we think this is a serious contender for the 2020 Rolex release

22 October 2019, 12:55 AM	#16
Dsmith1974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Duncan Location: London Watch: DD 40 Posts: 2,263	I was hoping to keep the lid on this until Basel, but since the cat’s out of the bag already.. This is the Milgauss-Submariner. Syloxi anti magnetic movement, sub super case and the iconic lightning bolt hand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 October 2019, 01:43 AM	#18
Kestrel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Posts: 139	That would be incredible. Currently the application stands rejected over us 4736630 for the identical mark for watches. Perhaps this was intended to provoke a dispute with the owner of that mark? Or not.

22 October 2019, 02:23 AM	#23
othertbone Banned Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Florida, USA Watch: Rolex/AP/Vin Omega Posts: 1,972	Interesting hobby

22 October 2019, 04:31 AM	#25
mmaggi Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: Michael Location: Nassau County, NY Watch: 16710 Posts: 889	Or you can get this for alot cheaper. It has an ETA 2824-2 movement. I own one and luv it. -4spd. https://images.app.goo.gl/DikVMB6aVShLNEvY8

22 October 2019, 05:42 AM	#28
RootBeerGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 67	Uh Huh.... and Ford is re-releasing the GT-40 again to compete with Ferrari after the movie hits the screens next month folks..... " Since the Cats out of the Bag"... ZZZZZZZZZZZ......

22 October 2019, 09:23 AM	#29
Kestrel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA Posts: 139	Did Rolex ever use the term milsub in marketing or sales or was it a term bestowed by collectors, like Kermit or Smurf or Hulk (all Sub nicknames)? If it was bestowed by collectors, then perhaps Rolex never used the term in a trademark sense. The current registration holder is making (or was making) “sub” style watches under the name milsub. Check out his specimen in the trademark file. The current owner may not be using mark. Who is to know? But check back in December when the reply is due to see what Rolex does. Also if a milsub does debut at Basel 2020, TRF will go bananas in anticipation.

22 October 2019, 11:56 AM	#30
lamnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nyc Posts: 1,762	If Rolex comes out with a milsub, the grey market will be insane. Daytona C prices will finally level out.

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