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30 December 2019, 06:08 PM
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Rolex date just fake or real ?
Hi. I would like to purchase a Rolex Datejust 16233 for collection. However after studying the watch, notice there is no marking “T” along with the “Swiss Made” wording. See photo.
I googled and notice this model was normally marked as “T SWISS MADE T” Is that fake or genuine? There is no certificate of the watch as the seller claimed it has lost. Appreciate your advice. Thanks. |
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31 December 2019, 02:39 AM
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Many of these Datejusts received service dials from Rolex. My 1988 16234 left the factory with a T Swiss T dial, but had it swapped at a later date during a service, for a Swiss Made like the example you posted.
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31 December 2019, 02:42 AM
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Open the back. If movement is real than the watch is prob also. But there are franken watches out there to be aware of, real movement and case, aftermarket bezels and bands fyi.
Buy a generic rolex caseback opener on amazon. Best $20 you can spend if your a WIS |
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31 December 2019, 05:42 AM
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I could be completely wrong but the date font seems a bit bold.
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31 December 2019, 07:12 AM
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I suspect a reworked dial with tritium removed.
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31 December 2019, 10:45 AM
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GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4 |
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31 December 2019, 10:50 AM
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Or As David said we need serial number to date watch to help - it could be an original luminova dial .
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31 December 2019, 07:13 AM
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Need better pictures
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31 December 2019, 09:07 AM
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Start of the Serial ? Could be end of production run. Any lug holes. ?
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31 December 2019, 11:09 AM
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Good questions. This is the point of knowing - those spaced out DJ dials with DATEJ U S T were only made in a certain period. For the OP, while the dial may end up being a genuine service dial, don’t forget that it may have been put on a DJ that it wasn’t meant to be installed - like a newer production case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Does anyone really know what time it is? |
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31 December 2019, 10:04 PM
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31 December 2019, 10:04 PM
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No serial on cert unless disassemble the bracelet to check
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31 December 2019, 10:05 PM
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31 December 2019, 10:26 PM
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So correct marking on dial
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31 December 2019, 11:03 PM
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Thanks all for the feedback and opinion. Do you think this piece is worth to buy, keep or invest ?
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1 January 2020, 12:35 AM
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As an investment? No
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