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Old 23 April 2009, 04:07 AM   #1
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RBR Alignment

I just had a detailed conversation with my AD and his watchmaker about what I thought was a misalignment between the RBR and the minute markers. Check out this example (sorry for the quality), noting the alignment of the minute marker at noon with the crown on the RBR:



We looked closely at several examples and it turns out that nearly all were like this to some degree! He mentioned that he's had a few customers ask already and it sure was a surprise to me so I thought I'd share.
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:11 AM   #2
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Hmmmm.....I don't think that's really acceptable!!

Rolex needs to UP their quality control!!!!!
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:21 AM   #3
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Hmmmm.....I don't think that's really acceptable!!

Rolex needs to UP their quality control!!!!!
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:33 AM   #4
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I think you're all absolutely right, it needs sorted and FOC!

Mine is bang on the 12 marker, see below:

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Old 23 April 2009, 05:21 AM   #5
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Hmmmm.....I don't think that's really acceptable!!

Rolex needs to UP their quality control!!!!!
JJ, I think that Rolex should hire you to do QC for all the watches that they produce. And for any that may be "off" you could give it to members of the forum instead of trashing them!
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Old 23 April 2009, 05:30 AM   #6
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JJ, I think that Rolex should hire you to do QC for all the watches that they produce. And for any that may be "off" you could give it to members of the forum instead of trashing them!
Have you got JJ's bestseller?





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Old 28 August 2009, 04:54 AM   #7
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:18 AM   #8
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You mentioned it in the right place.
JJ is notorious for his diligence with Rolex in terms of their resposibilities as far as quality is concerned.
Rest assured this will be brought to their attention.
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:20 AM   #9
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That would annoy me too. Luckily my late Z sub missed the RBR - which is a plus in my book.
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:20 AM   #10
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That's interesting, and you are MUCH more observant that I... I just checked my GMT IIc and it is also mis-aligned. The alignment of the R and X at 9 and 3 are fine.
I will post some macro's later.
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:50 AM   #11
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I just had a detailed conversation with my AD and his watchmaker about what I thought was a misalignment between the RBR and the minute markers. Check out this example (sorry for the quality), noting the alignment of the minute marker at noon with the crown on the RBR:



We looked closely at several examples and it turns out that nearly all were like this to some degree! He mentioned that he's had a few customers ask already and it sure was a surprise to me so I thought I'd share.
Are you sure it's the case? It can be the dial that is the problem.

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Old 23 April 2009, 04:52 AM   #12
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Agree with all on QC at Rolex. Lots of money spent needs lots of control given.
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Old 23 April 2009, 04:56 AM   #13
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I look at the pic again and after I have check it out in about 5 minutes it looks fine to me.



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Old 23 April 2009, 05:06 AM   #14
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I look at the pic again and after I have check it out in about 5 minutes it looks fine to me.



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Old 23 April 2009, 05:08 AM   #15
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I think its the dial too - i read somewhere that the rehaut is part of the case so i assume it must be dial misalignment??
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Old 23 April 2009, 05:02 AM   #16
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Awesome!
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Old 23 April 2009, 05:07 AM   #17
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My two DateJusts are spot on, but my GMT IIc is slightly off as well, although not quite as much as yours. My YM is pre-RBR.
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Old 23 April 2009, 05:42 AM   #18
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:01 AM   #19
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On mine it could not be the dial mis-aligned as the other engraving lines up. It is just the coronet at the 12 oclock position that is very slightly off (less than the original posters first pic).
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:02 AM   #20
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Nice one, Jocke!!! I think I need to get myself that book.
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:09 AM   #21
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You cannot mis align dials. They all have pegs attached to the bottom that fit into holes on the movement and screwed in to secure them. The whole movement would have to be off (this is possable) for the dial position to be off.

And you guys pay how much for these new watches?
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:12 AM   #22
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rolex is REALLY dropping the ball. with the disappointments from basel...the new attitude..the lack of quality control...and now the gimmicks like winders?? I actually just looked at the speedmaster after being offered a SS daytona...thats how upset I have become.
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:18 AM   #23
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This just might be the next collector item?????
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Old 23 April 2009, 07:33 AM   #24
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thats strange... Rolex need more work on Quality control
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Old 27 August 2009, 01:36 PM   #25
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Update: After waitng a few months for the watch to break in, I visited RSCNY today for regulation (-5s/day when stored in fastest position) and for this issue. The woman who greeted me saw the misalignment right away and used the word "unacceptable". Within 15 minutes the watch was back in my hands regulated and with perfect alignment between dial, rehaut, and bezel. Time will tell if the regulation was as successful, but for now this story has a very happy ending.
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Old 27 August 2009, 01:40 PM   #26
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Old 27 August 2009, 01:44 PM   #27
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Wow, one would think that with misalignment like that it would be a replica!
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Old 27 August 2009, 01:48 PM   #28
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Ooooh, now that you mention it... I overheard another "customer" explain that he brought a watch in "as a favor for a friend". After a few minutes in the waiting room, he was summoned over to the counter. The woman explained to him that not only was the watch not genuine, but he wasn't getting it back, either. At this point things were obviously starting to get interesting, but it was time for me to leave so I don't know how the story ended.
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Old 28 August 2009, 02:07 AM   #29
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During our visit to our AD in May the salesman was explaining to us that he had to get in touch with a customer for a similar matter. He explained that a fellow's wife brought her husband's Rolex in for a service and the watchmaker discovered it wasn't genuine. He was very anxious to speak with them. I don't know how that one ended either.

Glad yours got sorted out.
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Old 28 August 2009, 04:16 AM   #30
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Mine is a little bit off also.
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