Sd4k : sd43 : dssd jc -which one is collectable?

[nqtby9grdm]

Hi, in these days, I’m inerested in sea dweller and deep sea and I guess these could be more collectable than the modern sub in the future.

Cause in my opinion, todays sub look all the same. Just changing the movement, bracelet or the size. That’s all.

But modern sd(or dssd) has different design and story so.. These might have more potential to be future classic or collectable?Just my opinion. Actually I don’t know about the watch collecting so I wanna ask you guys!

1. Do you think modern sd, dssd are more collectable than modern sub?

2. In the future, which sd watch would be
Future classic or collectable?
Can you rank these watches and reason why?


Sd4k- the last pure sea dweller design, released for short period in rolex history

Sd43- red writting, and well ballanced **50th anniversary** watch (so maybe itll be discontinued one day? And after then..?)

Dssd dblue- stunning dial, monster diver watch and it has a history of rolex deep sea challange (But it’s not original that 12,000m diver watch. so cant it be called as historic watch? I dont know)

Thx and sorry for my poor English :)


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[padi56]

The collectable Rolex watches are the ones you want to own and wear.

[doramas]

Originally Posted by padi56

The collectable Rolex watches are the ones you want to own and wear.

I agree.
In my case I prefer 116600 out of those three.

[ltmgeller]

Originally Posted by padi56

The collectable Rolex watches are the ones you want to own and wear.

X2 ^ This

[MrJKLFoams]

Theres a talk about discont. Of the dblue or maybe the whole line since it is not as hot as the sub. Due to its size. But until no confirmation from rolex just buy what floats your boat and you wont regret it.

[GoingPlaces]

Originally Posted by MrJKLFoams

Theres a talk about discont. Of the dblue or maybe the whole line since it is not as hot as the sub. Due to its size. But until no confirmation from rolex just buy what floats your boat and you wont regret it.

Source? Doubtful.

[brucethemanlee]

You say you don’t know a lot about watch collecting but you appear to have articulated and summarized each watch pretty well

But what watch do you like? What watch do you want to wear?

[Ian Macdermott]

Good grief what ever happen to buying a watch you like. I guess I'm a watch wearer rather than a collector and so cannot understand the mentality of a lot of today's Rolex buyers. Most now seem to be bought because some so called celebrity on insterface or snapcrap has one.

Buy the watch YOU like wear and enjoy it and if 30 years on you decide to sell it you might get your "investment" back.


Oh and welcome to the forum.

[shalako]

Originally Posted by Ian Macdermott

Good grief what ever happen to buying a watch you like. I guess I'm a watch wearer rather than a collector and so cannot understand the mentality of a lot of today's Rolex buyers. Most now seem to be bought because some so called celebrity on insterface or snapcrap has one.

Buy the watch YOU like wear and enjoy it and if 30 years on you decide to sell it you might get your "investment" back.


Oh and welcome to the forum.

Exactly this, Rolex is one of my favourite brands but this constant narrative about investment- especially from those new to watch collecting is turning me rapidly towards other brands as it’s this mentality that keeps fuelling the problems of obtaining certain models from Rolex AD’s these days.
From that list I own the JC DSSD, it may come as a shock to many but I actually bought it as I liked it, the dial is stunning.

[gr33n]

Another vote here for SD4k.

I entered the Rolex world in 2010 with one of the last 16610lv (kermit), still worn 24/7/365, 11 years later.
I also own a Seiko Sbbn040, aka gold Tuna (titanium) when I run (trails) or want a massive watch from time to time.

I am fond of engineery, design and can say that these watches are really exceptional industrial products, regarding conjonction of reliability, design and craftmanship.

Even if i am a Rolex geek, I also bought in 2017 one of the last SD4K, kept unstickered, because I would like to own the Best Rolex Ever Made, and will probably wear it in a decade when money is not a problem anymore.
I love going to the bank safe, opening the box and looking at this marvel, like a 16600 but a bit more actual, and feel my heart miss a beat in front of such perfection. Knowing that I will unstick it, one day.

So...

1/ I think, like said above by some people here, that SD4k is the most collectible, simply because it is one of the last "classic" design SD, without cyclop, with slim lugs and 40mm dial, because it is also VERY well balanced (see the profile photos), with ceramic bezel which is quite appreciated by Rolex afficionados, and "function commands design" construction (the new SD is more massive, but this increase in size is dictated by fashion, not by fonction or lisibility).

2/ If people want to buy a "future collectible", let them do... I wear my kermit 24/7 but the stickered SD4k may follow the same way, one day. An investment can be transformed in a "watch for life", as it is hard to resist.
"Collectibles" always existed, even with 5digits Rolex.
Perhaps you will be glad that some people keep BNIB watches for you to buy them in 10 years !

[Rori]

Originally Posted by nqtby9grdm

Hi, in these days, I’m inerested in sea dweller and deep sea and I guess these could be more collectable than the modern sub in the future.

Cause in my opinion, todays sub look all the same. Just changing the movement, bracelet or the size. That’s all.

But modern sd(or dssd) has different design and story so.. These might have more potential to be future classic or collectable?Just my opinion. Actually I don’t know about the watch collecting so I wanna ask you guys!

1. Do you think modern sd, dssd are more collectable than modern sub?

2. In the future, which sd watch would be
Future classic or collectable?
Can you rank these watches and reason why?


Sd4k- the last pure sea dweller design, released for short period in rolex history

Sd43- red writting, and well ballanced **50th anniversary** watch (so maybe itll be discontinued one day? And after then..?)

Dssd dblue- stunning dial, monster diver watch and it has a history of rolex deep sea challange (But it’s not original that 12,000m diver watch. so cant it be called as historic watch? I dont know)

Thx and sorry for my poor English :)


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None.
Collectible are those who generate dial patina and faded bezels which made them unique. Modern references can only get discontinued and therefore a bit pricier depending on demand.


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[eightball76]

A little part of me dies every time I read a threat like this..... I'm getting to a point where I'm ashamed to wear a Rolex.

[gtnator]

I’ll tell you what I tell my parents/friends who asks me about my passion for watches. I never buy watches for investment potential, in fact, I would still buy every watch I currently own if I knew in advance that the price would drop to $1 the very next day after purchase. To me wearing and looking at a nice watch that I LIKE, is like appreciating fine art, it makes me happy and brings a huge amount of enjoyment. I hope one day you can reach this level of enjoyment in watch collecting. It’s a great feeling and a great place to be. Cheers


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[Manamana]

I don't think the JC will be discontinued, why would Rolex do that? they may discontinue the regular black Deep Sea because it's not so popular, but I don't think it will become collectable because it's too big and bulky which doesn't help with collectability.

SD4K and more so the SD43 Mk1 will be collectable for sure in my opinion.

[travisb]

I would suggest not buying on future collectability.
Buy what you like most.
For me, it's the JC DSSD.

[rambo99]

SD43, the 50th anniversary watch.

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by rambo99

SD43, the 50th anniversary watch.

Yes the RED does it

[Seddyspaghetti]

Welcome.

[Nauti]

Buy what you like...which for me is 116600 because the size works for me and i love the 120 click bezel and the dial thats not gloss nor is it matt ....

I am into classic cars and friends have asked “what should i buy to make money”?

And whilst there is an answer to that....

The best asnswer is “buy the car YOU love and lust after, not the one someone else recommends” that way if it halves in value or stays the same value you still have something you adore and enjoy, if it goes up in value thats just a bonus”....

[Lamontsanders]

I like my watches. I don't care if they are or will ever be collectable. If you are chasing money go look at the crypto market or something.

[brandrea]

I’m not sure I buy your original premise but that’s another arguement

As others have stated, buy the watch you want to wear.

[storm66]

Ummmm that post went well......

[Combine man]

Same applies to anything you spend your money on,buy what you want to wear,drive whatever.
I enjoy my SD43,bought it because I wanted it,I have a house and garage full of things I like and enjoy,also don,t give a toss for what others think of my choices.
Buy what piece you like,wear it and enjoy it,explain it to no one!!

[samson66]

Buy the one you want to wear, period

[Token74]

OP - ignore all the perfect people on this thread, if only we could all be so wise! And frankly, most of them are kidding themselves, it’s become trendy on here to shoot down anyone who mentions future value or collectability.

The most collectable in my view will be the 116600. The limited production run certainly lends itself to becoming a future collectable (not saying it’s rare btw, before i get shot down).

And the 116600 is a magnificent watch to wear, I’m a huge fan and have had mine for nearly seven years.

The DSSD is an impressive watch, but I’m not convinced that such a bulky watch will age too well. But maybe I’m just bitter because i think it looks amazing but it’s too big for my small wrist!!


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[NYG1121]

Originally Posted by Token74

OP - ignore all the perfect people on this thread, if only we could all be so wise! And frankly, most of them are kidding themselves, it’s become trendy on here to shoot down anyone who mentions future value or collectability.

The most collectable in my view will be the 116600. The limited production run certainly lends itself to becoming a future collectable (not saying it’s rare btw, before i get shot down).

And the 116600 is a magnificent watch to wear, I’m a huge fan and have had mine for nearly seven years.

The DSSD is an impressive watch, but I’m not convinced that such a bulky watch will age too well. But maybe I’m just bitter because i think it looks amazing but it’s too big for my small wrist!!


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Agree with this

[Saoirse32]

Originally Posted by Token74

OP - ignore all the perfect people on this thread, if only we could all be so wise! And frankly, most of them are kidding themselves, it’s become trendy on here to shoot down anyone who mentions future value or collectability.

The most collectable in my view will be the 116600. The limited production run certainly lends itself to becoming a future collectable (not saying it’s rare btw, before i get shot down).

And the 116600 is a magnificent watch to wear, I’m a huge fan and have had mine for nearly seven years.

The DSSD is an impressive watch, but I’m not convinced that such a bulky watch will age too well. But maybe I’m just bitter because i think it looks amazing but it’s too big for my small wrist!!


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This ^^^ and nicely articulated as well.
Perhaps the OP was simply saying he likes all three, so all things being equal, what would be "collectible."
For me, it's the JC DSSD.
Sláinte!


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[2nastie]

Collectability has a lot to do with the watch's desire during that period of time. Something collectable right now might not be desired in the future or vice-versa. So it's hard to answer.

Based on the characteristics of a short production run, last 40mm case and closets to the original Sea Dweller, the SD4K should be one to take a close at. However, based on current market response and the craze that everyone seems to jump on with everything SS professional... the SD4K is pretty neglected... which would make people question (will is be collectible).

Seems to me more people are interested in having the newest model or the original interactions of the watch. Everything in between... well... is meh (based on the market response).

I personally like the SD4K and if I find a good example, I'll likely jump on it. SD43 (nice red text... but that's it). DSSD interesting dial. Size-wise, well not for everyone.

[alphadweller]

OP probably likes the three watches, so "wear what you like" is irrelevant.

To me the most collectible watch is the SD43 mk1. One year production run, stick dial (I,220m), no Swiss Made coronet, slightly bolder lettering. First SD with a cyclops, first 43mm case, first 3235 movement in a professional model. True 2017 50th Anniversary.

[Fabrice M]

SD4k, for sure. It was only produce for three years, and it was the first 6 digit SD.