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Old 31 July 2021, 11:18 PM   #1
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A “new” 1675

This post is likely to cause some on here to have their hair curl. I’ll start off with a small preface.

I don’t like modern Rolex - the Daytona excluded. I’ve tried. They appeal visually to me, but not on the wrist. My sweet spot are the 5 digit reference. That said, I have always wanted a 4 digit reference. My concern however is always the same - condition. The prices of an all original 1675 for example can be north of 20k for rusted hands, flaking tritium and missing bracelets. Perfect condition all originals are north of 25k and there’s still no guarantees with these prices in term of “under the hood”. I just can’t justify purchasing a 50 year old watch for these prices and not be able to wear it without worry.

Two weeks ago a 1675 2.8mm serial (‘71-‘72) came across WatchRecon that was RSC factory serviced (w/ papers) with genuine replacement bezel, dial, hands, crown, tubes, gaskets, crystal and bracelet. To me, it was a brand new 1675 as if Rolex produced them today. The watch may not have anything other than the case and movement original (I believe the date wheel is also the original brushed silver open 6/9 flat 3), but it maintains all the design esthetics of the 1675 and in a fully working, serviced package:

- Matte dial with large lume plots - WG no surrounds
- Open 6/9, flat 3 date wheel
- Raised crystal
- Wide bezel

I jumped. It was exactly what I was looking for. The watch came a few days ago and as far as I can tell, the watch was never used post service. The bracelet hinges are stiff, loctite glue was still in all the screws, not a mark on the case or bracelet and it runs within superlative spec.

I’m very happy. To me the beauty of this 50 year old watch is that 50 years later, it works as it originally did when first purchased. Since RSC serviced, I don’t have to worry about non-genuine parts or needing to service anytime soon. Also price wise, it’s at the bottom of the 1675 price spectrum for arguably the most everyday wearable on that 1675 spectrum.

The vintage guys here I know are going to scoff at this. It’s fine, I totally get that side too. All collectors are different. But this 50 year old beauty I expect to last another 50 without issue.

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Old 31 July 2021, 11:35 PM   #2
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I. Love. It.

For real that’s awesome.
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Old 20 March 2023, 12:33 PM   #3
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I. Love. It.

For real that’s awesome.

This is the type of vintage reference I’d love to own. I have a 124060 and my wife has a lovely 16013. GMT is my next purchase and would love a new BLNR, but these vintage pieces are special! I may start looking…
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Old 31 July 2021, 11:44 PM   #4
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It looks great! Love the matte dial! Like you said, it's not trying to be an original vintage watch, and you know all the parts are genuine.
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Old 1 August 2021, 12:04 AM   #5
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That is EXACTLY how I like my "vintage" watches - like they just rolled off the production line!

Personally I hate seeing other people's wear and tear on my watches - patina schmatina! - so service dials and parts on vintage pieces are no problem to me at all. Obviously I'm not a true vintage aficionado (nor do I ever claim to be), but I do like these older pieces, so this would be the perfect 1675 for me. In fact I'm always on the lookout for a 1655 in exactly this kind of condition.

Many congrats, and I'm more than just a little bit jealous!
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Old 1 August 2021, 12:17 AM   #6
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Very beautiful. I would have done the exact same.
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Old 1 August 2021, 12:24 AM   #7
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Old 1 August 2021, 12:35 AM   #8
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I think that looks great! Would be very nice to have working lume on my own 1675. Not that I would ever switch out the parts on mine given the condition is very good, just dead Lume . I am thinking about getting a new watch to satisfy the desire for working Lume plots. That is a beautiful watch!
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Old 1 August 2021, 12:37 AM   #9
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Looks great IMO. Well done.
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Old 1 August 2021, 01:03 AM   #10
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Old 1 August 2021, 01:05 AM   #11
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Very nice. Congrats.

I’ve toyed with the idea of finding one like that as well. I like the idea truth be told.
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Old 1 August 2021, 01:20 AM   #12
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Old 1 August 2021, 01:35 AM   #13
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My vintage 75090 black Submariner says, "wow."
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Old 1 August 2021, 01:42 AM   #14
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Quite nice. Congratulations on an amazing buy.
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Old 1 August 2021, 02:16 AM   #15
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Looks incredible. Love it and I totally understand your thinking. As Driver8 said, I’m just a little bit jealous too!
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Old 1 August 2021, 02:19 AM   #16
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Beautiful, and the reason as you’ve described why RSC always recommend new parts. I regret not buying a ‘new’ 1680 a while ago. Luminova matte dials are amazing. Congratulations
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Old 1 August 2021, 02:39 AM   #17
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Thanks everyone for the kind words … really enjoying this piece. So glad I pulled the trigger.

Sorry about fat fingering the thread title. Should be 1675


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Old 1 August 2021, 02:44 AM   #18
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Good looking watch.

It's always better to salvage a good watch, with new parts, than it is to have a thrashed, non-functional safe queen.

If we, as enthusiasts, do not rescue watches that need it, who will.
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Old 1 August 2021, 02:54 AM   #19
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Jackpot, congratulations!
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Old 1 August 2021, 03:00 AM   #20
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I’m with you OP- this is the way I’d want it do it too. Amazing piece- enjoy in the best of health!

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Old 1 August 2021, 03:04 AM   #21
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NICE!!!

My only concern with vintage is to make sure they are water proof… Any watch I can’t swim with, doesn’t last long.
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Old 1 August 2021, 03:06 AM   #22
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Perfect. I wish they still made them like this. Maybe Rolex one day will also go with a “vintage” or “new old stock” line that brings back the original features that made the brand great in the first place. With the exception of the new Explorer 36mm there is nothing in the current line up that I’d spend money on.
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Old 1 August 2021, 03:27 AM   #23
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My sweet spot are the 5 digit reference. That said, I have always wanted a 4 digit reference. My concern however is always the same - condition. The prices of an all original 1675 for example can be north of 20k for rusted hands, flaking tritium and missing bracelets. Perfect condition all originals are north of 25k and there’s still no guarantees with these prices in term of “under the hood”. I just can’t justify purchasing a 50 year old watch for these prices and not be able to wear it without worry.

Two weeks ago a 1675 2.8mm serial (‘71-‘72) came across WatchRecon that was RSC factory serviced (w/ papers) with genuine replacement bezel, dial, hands, crown, tubes, gaskets, crystal and bracelet. To me, it was a brand new 1675 as if Rolex produced them today. The watch may not have anything other than the case and movement original (I believe the date wheel is also the original brushed silver open 6/9 flat 3), but it maintains all the design esthetics of the 1675 and in a fully working, serviced package:

- Matte dial with large lume plots - WG no surrounds
- Open 6/9, flat 3 date wheel
- Raised crystal
- Wide bezel

I jumped. It was exactly what I was looking for. The watch came a few days ago and as far as I can tell, the watch was never used post service. The bracelet hinges are stiff, loctite glue was still in all the screws, not a mark on the case or bracelet and it runs within superlative spec.
Hang on while I squeegee the walls here, you just blew my mind to pieces. I've read posts for years that indicated Rolex wouldn't even service anything from this era. That only in very rare circumstances would they possibly send something back to the mothership for a "restoration" at an obscene cost. But are you saying this RSC service was fairly recently? As a 1675 owner myself I had no idea RSC was even an option for this reference...

Your watch is amazing. You are truly lucky to find such a piece in this market.
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Old 1 August 2021, 03:38 AM   #24
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A “new” 1675

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Hang on while I squeegee the walls here, you just blew my mind to pieces. I've read posts for years that indicated Rolex wouldn't even service anything from this era. That only in very rare circumstances would they possibly send something back to the mothership for a "restoration" at an obscene cost. But are you saying this RSC service was fairly recently? As a 1675 owner myself I had no idea RSC was even an option for this reference...

Your watch is amazing. You are truly lucky to find such a piece in this market.

So the service was done in March of 2008 by RSC through Rolex Canada. The invoice paperwork shows all of the replacement parts listed out including a pressure test, movement service and case restoration. And then there’s a separate guarantee slip from Rolex of 2 years on the work.

I too had heard the same thing about servicing vintage pieces. So perhaps this is a more recent change to their policies? After all, we’re talking about 13 years ago this service was done.

I didn’t even know until a few months ago while doing research they even made Super Luminova matte replacement dials. But since learning about them I’ve seen them on 1655’s, 1675’s and 1680’s. There’s a thread over in the vintage forum where someone actually got a 1680 red submariner super luminova replacement. I don’t remember the date on that thread, I found it digging one day.

I had never seen one on this good of a restored condition done by Rolex themselves with paperwork and documentation. That’s why I jumped on it.


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It looks beautiful! A superb job´s been done on it. You could've fooled me that it's from 1971/72! Do wear it and enjoy it, hopefully for many years to come...!
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So the service was done in March of 2008 by RSC through Rolex Canada. The invoice paperwork shows all of the replacement parts listed out including a pressure test, movement service and case restoration. And then there’s a separate guarantee slip from Rolex of 2 years on the work.

I too had heard the same thing about servicing vintage pieces. So perhaps this is a more recent change to their policies? After all, we’re talking about 13 years ago this service was done.

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RSC Singapore serviced my 1675 in mid-2017, so I presume they still service everything. It would make no sense for a company like this to say "oh, this is too old; we can't service it"
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Hang on while I squeegee the walls here, you just blew my mind to pieces. I've read posts for years that indicated Rolex wouldn't even service anything from this era. That only in very rare circumstances would they possibly send something back to the mothership for a "restoration" at an obscene cost. But are you saying this RSC service was fairly recently? As a 1675 owner myself I had no idea RSC was even an option for this reference...

Your watch is amazing. You are truly lucky to find such a piece in this market.
@OP - I love it! I feel the same way you do towards the 1675.

I work with someone who received his father’s circa 1972 1675. He is not a watch fanatic, so he sent it to an RSC for a similar overhaul. His was 2015, and got new dial, new hands, new bezel insert, etc. It looks amazing. I never saw it pre-overhaul, but he is not a vintage collector, and wanted something to wear daily, and now he has it.
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Hang on while I squeegee the walls here, you just blew my mind to pieces. I've read posts for years that indicated Rolex wouldn't even service anything from this era. That only in very rare circumstances would they possibly send something back to the mothership for a "restoration" at an obscene cost. But are you saying this RSC service was fairly recently? As a 1675 owner myself I had no idea RSC was even an option for this reference...

Your watch is amazing. You are truly lucky to find such a piece in this market.

I have a 1969 1675 with a service date of 10/2022. And they only replaced the Crystal and crown.


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That looks fantastic (as I kick myself for selling my 1675 several years ago).

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Congrats and well done! I love vintage. But I miss the lume on the dial and hands sometimes. Other times, a watch is in such disrepair that’s about all you can do, without investing a fortune in original parts… I’ve had the exact same thought, about doing a service dial and hands on a sub or GMT.

Yours will go another 100 years with service.

I hope you get to enjoy it the majority of that time.

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