Should I tell my SA?

[amphr1]

I recently acquired a pre-own black Daytona in the grey market. I had mentioned my intention to do so to my SA as I feel there was almost no chance to get it through him given my purchase history. The way I asked was very transparent. I said basically that I was willing to wait for him to sell me a Daytona if it would be in a reasonable timeframe, i.e. some time in 2023. I told him that the prices in the grey market is decreasing to the range that I'm comfortable purchasing. And the end result, which I took it as a clear signal, was that he didn't put the watch down onto my list on his computer record. Because he usually adds it right in front of me when I ask for anything else or even just mention of a model that me and my wife might be interested in. So that tells me that I'm not going to get one via this AD.

Anyway, I think the prevailing advice is to not talk about it. And I think I will not bring it up unless my SA ask about it next time I see him in person. But if the topic comes up, I feel uneasy to lie or coverup the truth. I feel that it'll create some uneasiness or erode the relationship. And yes yes I know your SA is your friend only as far as being able to conduct business. Anyway I'd love to hear folks opinion and their experience.

[2loaded]

Find a new AD.
Hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing.

[dcash0615]

Originally Posted by 2loaded

Find a new AD.
Hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing.

Exactly this

[espanol]

Congrats.

You wanted watch. You asked for watch. You found watch. You bought watch. Happy days!

Since when do we all care so much about our 'relationships' with watch salespeople? They earn 30-40% on any Rolex sale. If they didn't offer it to you, then how's that 'relationship' you speak of really going?

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by espanol

Since when do we all care so much about our 'relationships' with watch salespeople?

Some people are just very lonely

[joli160]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Some people are just very lonely

[ArtNouveau]

I have known my SA around 25 years now. Although I bought other watches from him at his multi-brand chain store, even in the past he could not readily supply me with “hot” Rolex models. He knew I bought some elsewhere and never held it against me.
He’s now at a Rolex only Boutique and has gotten for me the four watches I’ve asked for. Really no reason to go anywhere else now if I wanted another Rolex but I don’t think he’d be upset if I did.

[shaunylw]

I would continue to push for the Daytona, and I wouldn't wear it around them when you go in. Best case they get you one and you can dump the one you bought. Worst case, you continue to enjoy the daytona you have.

[samuel019]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

I would continue to push for the Daytona, and I wouldn't wear it around them when you go in. Best case they get you one and you can dump the one you bought. Worst case, you continue to enjoy the daytona you have.

Exactly this

I’m “supposedly” next in line for a watch or 2 that I already own. And 1 or 2 that I don’t. I damn sure don’t and won’t tell my A D “hey take me off because of blah blah”

Why not? In case they offer me a dial configuration I don’t have and may like more than what I have. If ever offered the same exact watch? I’ll cross that bridge if and when I get there. Not expecting any calls so there’s that.

Maybe they’ve found me on TRF and already know And if so oh well. At least I have what I want versus endless waiting

[Laostuh]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

I would continue to push for the Daytona, and I wouldn't wear it around them when you go in. Best case they get you one and you can dump the one you bought. Worst case, you continue to enjoy the daytona you have.

Sage advice. Life is too short to wait for something that may never happen. If the opportunity presents itself take it. Worse case scenario you have to flip a watch. Best case scenario, you're enjoying a watch.

[S.Explorer]

I don't think it matters, just wear it as you wish.

If your SA asks, say you bought it used as a stopgap.

[Tim Plains]

Why do you feel you need to tell him anything you do outside of his store? I wouldn't have mentioned it and just kept asking as time went on, then sell the grey Daytona.

[train-time]

Should I tell my SA? - NO

[Srct]

Congratulations - no need to say anything

[burnthesehills]

You should tell your wife. Your SA?? Nope.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by burnthesehills

You should tell your wife. Your SA?? Nope.

Tell wife but don’t tell her how much you paid

[burnthesehills]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Tell wife but don’t tell her how much you paid

Good point!

Although I tried that once with a high end mountain bike. A few months later the receipt fell out of my trunk when we were unpacking groceries. I was in big trouble I tell ya.

[Cambo]

Your SA and AD really don’t care…if they find out, you will lose any standing with them. If they don’t, you’re one more person off the list (of many).

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by burnthesehills

You should tell your wife.

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[Harry-57]

Back when I could get a black SS Sky Dweller at MSRP + 20%, I lost patience with my AD and went grey before a price rise. I took it straight over to them. They took it away and authenticated it for me (not necessary but it would have been rude to refuse their offer). Six months after that they sold me a TT Sky Dweller on spec, a BLRO 15 months later, and a blue Sky Dweller six months subsequently.

I tend towards the honesty pays model. It has worked for me but you should do what best suits you. Strictly speaking it's none of their business.

[TomCarter]

Loose lips sink ships

[WilsdorfNDavis]

Originally Posted by TomCarter

Loose lips sink ships

[amh]

I've learned this the hard way: Shut Up

Complete transparency isn't a good idea. If you're dating a lady, do you tell her about everyone else you're dating?

[huttobhsc]

Originally Posted by amh

I've learned this the hard way: Shut Up

Complete transparency isn't a good idea. If you're dating a lady, do you tell her about everyone else you're dating?

Depends on what kind of lady I think she is.

[Rado63]

I would purchase any watch I wanted from the secondary market and I would always ask the the AD to get me one as well. If I then had two one would be sold unless I want both or want to sell both. Why wait for the watch that may or may not ever come through the AD. Enjoy one now while you wait. You are not under any obligation to discuss your watch collection, at least not at this moment, and even if you needed service you can send the watch directly to RSC you do not the AD to participate in your service needs unless you want them to participate.

[Tools]

Why would you tell your AD anything except what watch you are interested in buying?

It's not a date, it's a business transaction.

[thekman]

I do not see any reason for the AD or SA to be upset with you. You gave them a chance, they couldn't deliver so you got it somewhere else. It just shows you mean business. Honestly if I were an SA I would be extremely happy to see my customer get a super hot watch elsewhere. It's one less person now on my list who will bug me for months for a Daytona.
I know that Rolex is not AP but my AP SA straight up told me they sometimes use grey market purchases for super hot watch to advocate for their clients with upper management as it shows that you are not a flipper and actually want the watch to the point that you overpaid for it.

[davek35]

I had a relationship with a SA at one location. Very little help. At another location of the same company I developed a relationship with a SA that helped me aquire what I wanted, no problem it seemed.

I had the first SA take me off their list for anything. Seemed to be wasting my time. But I never told that person why. I'm pretty much finished buying now anyway.

[EEpro]

Wearing my grey market white dial to the store and buying a PM watch changed the dynamic for me.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Wearing my grey market white dial to the store and buying a PM watch changed the dynamic for me.

Can you elaborate? Changed the dynamic how? Helped or hurt?


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