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mretzloff · 27 July 2009, 02:33 AM

The VC Overseas has been smiling at me for some time now. Could you please tell me some more about this watch (the chronometer, not the chronograph)? How are VC's watches in the value retention department? I have no intent to flip watches, but it helps if there ever is a time to sell or whatever.

Thanks.

towernick · 28 July 2009, 01:53 PM

Not sure about resale, but I've always liked those watches, not so much the chronograph but the chronometer, I think it's a pretty nice looking watch.

topcat30093 · 29 July 2009, 05:10 AM

Vacheron Constantin make, imo one of the best watches in the world.
The craftmanship is truly stunning.

boa2 · 29 July 2009, 05:25 AM

Great watch, very versatile. 150m water resistance, and supremely comfortable. Goes with shorts or suit. It hugs the wrist nicely as well. VC now has rubber and leather options if you want to switch things up. You can usually get enough of a discount that re-sale isn't a huge hit, and this is a very desirable model.

They also just came out with a new version of it, with a Ti bezel. Comes with a rubber and leather strap, not with the bracelet. And the dial is not guilloche, as with the all SS version:

Hope that helps.

brrrdn · 29 July 2009, 08:04 AM

love the overseas non-chrono. the dual time version is currently my grail watch...

cody p · 29 July 2009, 03:23 PM

why is it, every gerald genta watch i see - there's something i like about it but also something i don't?

boa2 · 29 July 2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cody p

why is it, every gerald genta watch i see - there's something i like about it but also something i don't?

That may be the case, but the Overseas was not designed by Genta. The AP Royal Oak and the PP Nautilus originally were, but even the origin of the current Overseas (the 222) was not designed by Genta, but by Jorg Hysek.

cody p · 29 July 2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

That may be the case, but the Overseas was not designed by Genta. The AP Royal Oak and the PP Nautilus originally were, but even the origin of the current Overseas (the 222) was not designed by Genta, but by Jorg Hysek.

i stand corrected.

beshannon · 30 July 2009, 01:05 AM

Beautiful watches, the Overseas has been on my wish list for quite some time. If I could I would buy one.

George Ab · 14 July 2010, 02:59 PM

Mine should arrive the day after tomorrow. Waiting.....waiting....

boa2 · 16 July 2010, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Ab

Mine should arrive the day after tomorrow. Waiting.....waiting....

Congratulations, George. Just saw your pic. Incredible watch!

WatchTimes · 15 July 2010, 02:41 AM

Can't wait for pics!
I have gone back and forth over getting one for a long time.

I like the Chronograph, Chronometer & Dual Time....

Hard to decide which I like most.

I really have been considering the Dual Time

asadtiger · 15 July 2010, 05:00 AM

the chronometer is absolutely stunning..versatile and great...maker is also top notch, so its perfect overall

TheDude · 16 July 2010, 09:00 AM

I love the Overseas Dual Time...

argee1977 · 18 July 2010, 03:29 AM

Yes, they are fantastic watches, i had a choice between the chrono and the AP and there was nothing in it at the end, the new Ti models are beautiful, i keep seeing them and always think that they are up there with the best, in terms of look and function.

The only thing stopping me buying new is the resale value, over here in the UK they all but halve in value after a year or so, so not quite a great deal, but then again so do most expensive watches and if you're buying second hand then that initial loss is already done, a bit like buying nearly new cars.

improviz · 23 August 2010, 05:39 AM

I also love the Overseas Chrono, stunning watch...only concern I have is that from what I've heard, the servicing costs are nutty for that watch, on the order of $1500 or so!

WatchTimes · 23 August 2010, 07:44 AM

Id love a Dual Time!!!

Shade · 23 August 2010, 12:08 PM

Why is the Overseas dual time has a very very similar dial design to the AP Royal Oak dual time?

Enlighten me anyone?

And I love the SS overseas with leather strap.. awsome classic!

boa2 · 21 September 2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shade

Why is the Overseas dual time has a very very similar dial design to the AP Royal Oak dual time?

Enlighten me anyone?

And I love the SS overseas with leather strap.. awsome classic!

They have the same movements, each modified slightly differently.

wisguy · 20 September 2010, 01:21 PM

I believe that the overseas uses an in-house movement, right?

And also that the AP RO uses the same one (albeit modified), that's why the dials in the dual times look so similar.

But I would like confirmation from an expert.

boa2 · 21 September 2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wisguy

I believe that the overseas uses an in-house movement, right?

And also that the AP RO uses the same one (albeit modified), that's why the dials in the dual times look so similar.

But I would like confirmation from an expert.

The Overseas does not use an in-house movement. The base in the Chronometer and Dual Time are from JLC, and the base in the Chronograph is a Frederic Piguet. They are modified and finished of course to VC's standards.

The movement in the VC and the AP Dual Time watches is the same, each modified a bit differently.

HAL330 · 28 October 2022, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boa2

The Overseas does not use an in-house movement. The base in the Chronometer and Dual Time are from JLC, and the base in the Chronograph is a Frederic Piguet. They are modified and finished of course to VC's standards.

The movement in the VC and the AP Dual Time watches is the same, each modified a bit differently.

not true.. the 3rd generation Overseas are both (chrono and date) an in-house VC movement .. Cal 5200 and Cal 5100 respectively.. both with the Geneva Seal.. first time ever on an Overseas.

TheMuffinator · 28 October 2022, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAL330

not true.. the 3rd generation Overseas are both (chrono and date) an in-house VC movement .. Cal 5200 and Cal 5100 respectively.. both with the Geneva Seal.. first time ever on an Overseas.

You just replied to a comment from 2010. At the time of writing his comment, that was a true statement as the 3rd gen was still 6 years from releasing.

dsiewmy · 26 September 2010, 11:13 PM

i love mine and wear it as much as i can.
the best bracelet i've ever tried on.

rpryan55 · 27 September 2010, 12:34 AM

I love the dual time, but of the two I liked the Royal Oak the best. Just a matter of personal preference - and, frankly, it has been so long since I looked at one that looking at these VC pictures make me wonder why I ever preferred the RO.

vulpro · 19 October 2010, 03:51 AM

VC Overseas Chrono... one of the very best IMHO!

hanto · 22 October 2010, 03:38 AM

I think they are fantastics but not so great in value retention....i might be wrong though

HAL330 · 28 October 2022, 02:12 PM

the overseas is a grail watch.. VC is part of the "Holy Trinity" along with Patek and AP.... and only VC has the coveted Geneva Seal

gmtmister · 28 October 2022, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAL330

the overseas is a grail watch.. VC is part of the "Holy Trinity" along with Patek and AP.... and only VC has the coveted Geneva Seal

Also not true. Patek watches also have the Seal.

TheMuffinator · 29 October 2022, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ale

Also not true. Patek watches also have the Seal.

Modern Pateks no longer have the Geneva Seal. They created their own seal which is what is now on their watches.

27 July 2009, 02:33 AM	#1
mretzloff "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: Submariner Date Posts: 822	Thinking about a VC Overseas (chronometer) The VC Overseas has been smiling at me for some time now. Could you please tell me some more about this watch (the chronometer, not the chronograph)? How are VC's watches in the value retention department? I have no intent to flip watches, but it helps if there ever is a time to sell or whatever. Thanks. __________________ "M" 16610 Submariner "M" 16570w Explorer II

29 July 2009, 05:10 AM	#3
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,459	Vacheron Constantin make, imo one of the best watches in the world. The craftmanship is truly stunning. __________________

29 July 2009, 05:25 AM	#4
boa2 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Howard Location: Utah Watch: Lover Posts: 3,940	Great watch, very versatile. 150m water resistance, and supremely comfortable. Goes with shorts or suit. It hugs the wrist nicely as well. VC now has rubber and leather options if you want to switch things up. You can usually get enough of a discount that re-sale isn't a huge hit, and this is a very desirable model. They also just came out with a new version of it, with a Ti bezel. Comes with a rubber and leather strap, not with the bracelet. And the dial is not guilloche, as with the all SS version: Hope that helps. __________________ "Facts and truth really don't have much to do with each other."

30 July 2009, 01:05 AM	#9
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Beautiful watches, the Overseas has been on my wish list for quite some time. If I could I would buy one. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

14 July 2010, 02:59 PM	#10
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	Mine should arrive the day after tomorrow. Waiting.....waiting.... __________________

28 July 2009, 01:53 PM	#2
towernick Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 880	Not sure about resale, but I've always liked those watches, not so much the chronograph but the chronometer, I think it's a pretty nice looking watch.

29 July 2009, 08:04 AM	#5
brrrdn "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: meeko Location: austin, tx Watch: gmt iic Posts: 103	love the overseas non-chrono. the dual time version is currently my grail watch...

29 July 2009, 03:23 PM	#6
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	why is it, every gerald genta watch i see - there's something i like about it but also something i don't?

15 July 2010, 02:41 AM	#12
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Can't wait for pics! I have gone back and forth over getting one for a long time. I like the Chronograph, Chronometer & Dual Time.... Hard to decide which I like most. I really have been considering the Dual Time __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

15 July 2010, 05:00 AM	#13
asadtiger "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Asad A. Awan Location: kabul, Afghanista Watch: Tissot PRX Posts: 2,698	the chronometer is absolutely stunning..versatile and great...maker is also top notch, so its perfect overall

16 July 2010, 09:00 AM	#14
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	I love the Overseas Dual Time...

18 July 2010, 03:29 AM	#15
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Yes, they are fantastic watches, i had a choice between the chrono and the AP and there was nothing in it at the end, the new Ti models are beautiful, i keep seeing them and always think that they are up there with the best, in terms of look and function. The only thing stopping me buying new is the resale value, over here in the UK they all but halve in value after a year or so, so not quite a great deal, but then again so do most expensive watches and if you're buying second hand then that initial loss is already done, a bit like buying nearly new cars. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

23 August 2010, 05:39 AM	#16
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	I also love the Overseas Chrono, stunning watch...only concern I have is that from what I've heard, the servicing costs are nutty for that watch, on the order of $1500 or so! __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

23 August 2010, 07:44 AM	#17
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Id love a Dual Time!!! __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

23 August 2010, 12:08 PM	#18
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	Why is the Overseas dual time has a very very similar dial design to the AP Royal Oak dual time? Enlighten me anyone? And I love the SS overseas with leather strap.. awsome classic!

20 September 2010, 01:21 PM	#20
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	I believe that the overseas uses an in-house movement, right? And also that the AP RO uses the same one (albeit modified), that's why the dials in the dual times look so similar. But I would like confirmation from an expert. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

26 September 2010, 11:13 PM	#24
dsiewmy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 243	i love mine and wear it as much as i can. the best bracelet i've ever tried on.

27 September 2010, 12:34 AM	#25
rpryan55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dick Location: USA Watch: SubND,DD,SSDaytona Posts: 2,257	I love the dual time, but of the two I liked the Royal Oak the best. Just a matter of personal preference - and, frankly, it has been so long since I looked at one that looking at these VC pictures make me wonder why I ever preferred the RO. __________________ “The only reason for time ....................... is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein

19 October 2010, 03:51 AM	#26
vulpro Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Lee Location: Chicago Watch: Rolex & others Posts: 61	VC Overseas Chrono... one of the very best IMHO!

22 October 2010, 03:38 AM	#27
hanto Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Indonesia Posts: 40	I think they are fantastics but not so great in value retention....i might be wrong though

28 October 2022, 02:12 PM	#28
HAL330 Banned Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: xyz Location: xyz Watch: xyz Posts: 585	the overseas is a grail watch.. VC is part of the "Holy Trinity" along with Patek and AP.... and only VC has the coveted Geneva Seal

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