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Old 15 May 2023, 08:12 PM   #1
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Has Rolex ever made a (no date) Submariner in other than black? If so, when?

First off, I understand it's just a Submariner, not a "no date" Submariner. I just wanted clarity in the thread title.

That said, I'm still pretty new to the brand so I certainly lack evolutionary knowledge of the Sub.

What I do know is that I don't think I have seen a picture of a Submariner in any color other than black. Ever. I am referring to both the dial and/or bezel. Every time I see a dial and/or bezel in any color other than black, it's always a Sub Date. Has a non all black Sub ever been produced? If so when?

I prefer no dates, and would go crazy for a LV or LB Sub. Do you think there is any chance we will see a non all black future Submariner in the future?
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Old 15 May 2023, 10:20 PM   #2
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I would not know of any such reference. But I agree, would be great to see one someday
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Old 15 May 2023, 10:38 PM   #3
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As far as I know the Submariner is the only watch in the entire Rolex lineup that has never had a different coloured dial or bezel other than black. Long may that continue.
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Old 15 May 2023, 10:43 PM   #4
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I would love to see a white or polar dial on the Sub. Perhaps, legibility under water is an issue with white and, thus, no white dial.
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Old 15 May 2023, 11:01 PM   #5
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As far as I know the Submariner is the only watch in the entire Rolex lineup that has never had a different coloured dial or bezel other than black. Long may that continue.
It's funny, when I first started getting into Rolex I would occasionally hear terms like "red" Submariner. I thought that meant that the damn thing was actually red and thought Oh that sounds cool!. Then when I saw a picture of a regular old Sub with a tiny line of red text on the dial I thought, you've gotta be kidding me, THAT'S considered a red Sub??
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Old 15 May 2023, 11:06 PM   #6
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The Submariner (no date) comes in only one in one configuration . Submariner dates come in many flavors

I like it for that very reason. While some here might call the Submariner Date an icon, I think it’s the Submariner (no date) that gets the moniker for this (and a few other) reasons
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Old 15 May 2023, 11:10 PM   #7
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The Submariner (no date) comes in only one in one configuration . Submariner dates come in many flavors

I like it for that very reason. While some here might call the Submariner Date an icon, I think it’s the Submariner (no date) that gets the moniker for this (and a few other) reasons
I would agree with that Brian. Also, I am curious. Are most of the AD ads for the Submariner the ND version. In my experience most of the ads I've seen at the AD are for the ND. Never seen one for the date.
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Old 15 May 2023, 11:23 PM   #8
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I would agree with that Brian. Also, I am curious. Are most of the AD ads for the Submariner the ND version. In my experience most of the ads I've seen at the AD are for the ND. Never seen one for the date.
I see some of both.

I actually see the TT date most often

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Old 16 May 2023, 12:42 AM   #9
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I would agree with that Brian. Also, I am curious. Are most of the AD ads for the Submariner the ND version. In my experience most of the ads I've seen at the AD are for the ND. Never seen one for the date.
Feel like I see a lot of shots of the bluesy in submariner ads.
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Old 16 May 2023, 12:53 AM   #10
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I don't know how many of these were made but there are a few out there.
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Old 16 May 2023, 01:07 AM   #11
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The Submariner (no date) comes in only one in one configuration . Submariner dates come in many flavors

I like it for that very reason. While some here might call the Submariner Date an icon, I think it’s the Submariner (no date) that gets the moniker for this (and a few other) reasons
It's now the "Sub" while the original is the "Sub no date" when it really should be the "Sub" and "Sub Date" which tells me that the Date has attained "icon" status.

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I don't know how many of these were made but there are a few out there.
Curious whether it was always that bluish hue (and sold as such - specifically different from the black) or whether it was a particular fade pattern attributed to a certain era/batch?
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Old 16 May 2023, 01:41 AM   #12
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I don't know how many of these were made but there are a few out there.
What is the one on the right?
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Old 16 May 2023, 02:47 AM   #13
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The Submariner (no date) comes in only one in one configuration . Submariner dates come in many flavors

I like it for that very reason. While some here might call the Submariner Date an icon, I think it’s the Submariner (no date) that gets the moniker for this (and a few other) reasons
I'm agreeing with Brian all over these threads this morning...

I prefer the Submariner because of the simplicity and that it only comes in one configuration. I owned the 114060 and flipped it for a 116610LV. I regretted the decision within months, held onto the 116610LV for awhile, and sold it for almost 10k profit a year or so ago. I was able to finance both the 124060 and 126710BLRO and have been extremely content since.

The 124060 is the most modern interpretation of the original watch. Nothing wrong with the date and I can understand why people tend to prefer it, but if you're collecting several Rolex sport models, getting the Submariner is a nice, pure expression of the reference when you have the date covered in other models.
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Old 16 May 2023, 02:52 AM   #14
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I'm agreeing with Brian all over these threads this morning...



I prefer the Submariner because of the simplicity and that it only comes in one configuration. I owned the 114060 and flipped it for a 116610LV. I regretting the decision within months, held onto the 116610LV and sold it for almost 10k profit. I was able to finance both the 124060 and 126710BLRO and have been extremely content since.



The 124060 is the most modern interpretation of the original watch. Nothing wrong with the date and I can understand why people tend to prefer it, but if you're collecting several Rolex sport models, getting the Submariner is a nice, pure expression of the reference when you have the date covered in other models.
That's really well said my friend.

I also like the positive tone you put on the Submariner Date as well. No need to disparage that reference just because you prefer a different model. Others could learn from this type of post

Good for you as well on that sale ... you did very well indeed.

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Old 15 May 2023, 11:10 PM   #15
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No.

That’s why Sub ND is the purest embodiment of Rolex. Absolute classic beauty.
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Old 16 May 2023, 02:10 AM   #16
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No date looks cleaner. Would be nice to see more variations.
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Old 16 May 2023, 07:10 AM   #17
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No date looks cleaner. Would be nice to see more variations.
Although many prefer the date option, I’m in total agreement with you as to the better aesthetics. I actually like the fact it doesn’t come in a multitude of configurations though. That’s part of what makes it special imo…just like the Ex1 (minus the Ex1 having a case size option of course).

It’s the OG and I’m happy with the base model
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Old 16 May 2023, 07:53 AM   #18
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Although many prefer the date option, I’m in total agreement with you as to the better aesthetics. I actually like the fact it doesn’t come in a multitude of configurations though. That’s part of what makes it special imo…just like the Ex1 (minus the Ex1 having a case size option of course).

It’s the OG and I’m happy with the base model
Once the Harrods Black Bay gets the 2023 upgrades, it’ll be a really nice contender for this.
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Old 16 May 2023, 02:53 AM   #19
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I believe there exist a gold no date sub witch was made in the 1980's..
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Old 16 May 2023, 03:14 AM   #20
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Pics or it didn’t happen.
I think I would have heard of such a gold sub
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Old 16 May 2023, 04:09 AM   #21
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Pics or it didn’t happen.
I think I would have heard of such a gold sub


Jesus Christ, this place sometimes.
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Old 16 May 2023, 04:25 AM   #22
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Same thing as I were to post something like this:

I believe there was a Rolex with a unicorn on the dial in the 1790s. The mother of my sisters boyfriends gardener heard his doctor talking about it.
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Old 16 May 2023, 04:28 AM   #23
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Same thing as I were to post something like this:

I believe there was a Rolex with a unicorn on the dial in the 1790s. The mother of my sisters boyfriends gardener heard his doctor talking about it.
Yeah, maybe you're right.

"I think I would have heard of such a gold sub"
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Credentials or it didn't happen.

Of course, a normal human being might have just said something like, "I've been into subs for X amount of years and I have a pretty extensive knowledge of the different models. I know for a fact that such a watch was never produced from the factory."

"Pics or it didn't happen."
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Old 16 May 2023, 05:40 AM   #24
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Same thing as I were to post something like this:

I believe there was a Rolex with a unicorn on the dial in the 1790s. The mother of my sisters boyfriends gardener heard his doctor talking about it.

I hear you..

But perezscope just made an article on the rolex pvd Submariner that came from Rolex and not aftermarket.. Anything is possible..

I think it was rolexpassionreport who had seen a gold no date sub..
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There were quite a few with Tudor branding.



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Old 16 May 2023, 05:32 AM   #26
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First off, I understand it's just a Submariner, not a "no date" Submariner. I just wanted clarity in the thread title.

That said, I'm still pretty new to the brand so I certainly lack evolutionary knowledge of the Sub.

What I do know is that I don't think I have seen a picture of a Submariner in any color other than black. Ever. I am referring to both the dial and/or bezel. Every time I see a dial and/or bezel in any color other than black, it's always a Sub Date. Has a non all black Sub ever been produced? If so when?

I prefer no dates, and would go crazy for a LV or LB Sub. Do you think there is any chance we will see a non all black future Submariner in the future?



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Old 16 May 2023, 06:53 AM   #27
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Has Rolex ever made a (no date) Submariner in other than black? If so, when?



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Old 16 May 2023, 12:37 PM   #28
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I appreciate the responses. As the OP, I was genuinely curious. I'm just in a no date phase at the moment. I cycle through my humble collection enough to not want to be bothered with setting the date, and I cannot wear a watch without every complication set accurately.

I love the Sub, but I also love the LV bezel on the Sub Date. I also have a Pelagos LHD that is somewhat similar to the black Submariner in appearance. I may go with a Seamaster 300 heritage in blue for a no date, or just skip the diver all together and go with an AK or Exp I 40mm.

I just feel like I have a bit of a void in my collection by not having a Submariner of some sort.

Thanks for the education!
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I appreciate the responses. As the OP, I was genuinely curious. I'm just in a no date phase at the moment. I cycle through my humble collection enough to not want to be bothered with setting the date, and I cannot wear a watch without every complication set accurately.

I love the Sub, but I also love the LV bezel on the Sub Date. I also have a Pelagos LHD that is somewhat similar to the black Submariner in appearance. I may go with a Seamaster 300 heritage in blue for a no date, or just skip the diver all together and go with an AK or Exp I 40mm.

I just feel like I have a bit of a void in my collection by not having a Submariner of some sort.

Thanks for the education!
If not for the obscenely inflated prices these days, I'd say to go for a blue Tudor Submariner. Maybe there are still deals to be found though and it's just the online resale market that's inflated because of catering to "enthusiasts".
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