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Old 5 November 2023, 11:11 AM   #1
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VC Overseas vs Chopard AE XPS

This forum is doing a number on me…. in particular, these two pieces. Had my eyes set on a rose gold white dial day date 40, but strongly, considering picking up one of these in the interim.

Obviously, both extremely well-made and I’m guessing on par from a quality and movement standpoint.

Anyone have variations of both?
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Old 5 November 2023, 11:49 AM   #2
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Both amazing if it was my only watch I’d go with the VC easy cause of quick change straps and micro adjust bracelet but as part of a collection I find the Chopard more interesting.
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Old 5 November 2023, 12:09 PM   #3
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I have the 4 pieces at the bottom of my signature. Certainly the quick change is a great feature that needs to be considered
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Old 5 November 2023, 12:21 PM   #4
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WG DD 40 would be my choice (I have a DD 40 YG)
I like the VC but like the DD more.
I just have never been a Chopard fan
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Old 5 November 2023, 01:29 PM   #5
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Chopard is far more superior in terms of finish.
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Old 5 November 2023, 01:52 PM   #6
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Chopard is far more superior in terms of finish.

Really? That surprises me, can you be more specific?
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Old 5 November 2023, 02:17 PM   #7
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Got my first VC last week, and very happy.

I tried the AE and found it too small. Also, the screws bothered me, felt like a RO imitation.






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Old 5 November 2023, 02:27 PM   #8
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Well the blue OS is a great piece along with the QR bracelet. As other said it makes it very versatile. The blue is a really nice blue. I have good things about the salmon chopard. Good luck with your decision.

I am not a fan of Rolex so I would choose one of these two


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Old 5 November 2023, 02:41 PM   #9
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I would pick the Chopard it is a truly spectacular watch in person.
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Old 5 November 2023, 03:03 PM   #10
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I have both. But if I were to only choose 1, it would have to be the Vacheron.

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Old 5 November 2023, 03:43 PM   #11
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Something I've been thinking about with nice pics of the XPS. Can anyone explain if the lug to lug wear similarly or how they compare to a regular alpine eagle? Thanks.
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Old 5 November 2023, 11:37 PM   #12
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I would go with the Vacheron Constantin for the integrated bracelet sports watch over the Alpine Eagle 100% of the time. Easy choice. Personal preference, but I find the design a lot more compelling and the bracelet change out / other two options is one of the best on the market.

In general I don't see much that I like in Chopard's watch range. However the 96.1L calibre LUC 1860 (36mm) and 1860 XPS (40mm) in exhibition and officers case back are exceptions. I've been considering picking one of these up, but I'll probably wait till I see the right watch appear on the pre-owned market as they do depreciate quite heavily.

But sports integrated bracelet watch: if it fits you the overseas. 100% If you have a smaller wrist I would look for a Streamliner if I needed water resistance, or a Royal Oak if I didn't need water resistance.

Clearly my personal choices. But "you do you" of course.
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Old 6 November 2023, 01:28 AM   #13
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The only thing AE wins is the thickness, and it's a huge win. Otherwise Vacheron all the way.
In some sense Vacheron don't seem to want the business. 4500v is definitely too thick, they previously released the 2000v which is the perfect overseas, but they decided the 2000v will only be a very limited release in white gold. Crazy, they could have released the 2000v in steel, non-limited and win the market
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Old 6 November 2023, 02:11 AM   #14
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As an Overseas Dual Time owner, VC for me as well. That said, the Alpine Eagle with its 80s retro charme is nice in its own right from a dial perspective. I just really don't like the bracelet.

By the way, in my humble and biased opinion, Overseas over DD any day. Just have a look at the movement, the finishing, the rotor (ah forgot, you can't, and you wouldn't want to, on the DD..... ;-). Plus the Rolex RG is way too red for me. And it seems like you've got your bases covered in terms of Rolex already.
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Old 6 November 2023, 02:21 AM   #15
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This forum is doing a number on me…. in particular, these two pieces. Had my eyes set on a rose gold white dial day date 40, but strongly, considering picking up one of these in the interim.

Obviously, both extremely well-made and I’m guessing on par from a quality and movement standpoint.

Anyone have variations of both?
Please keep in mind that I’m biased, Mike! I love how this Monte Rosa pink dial can change depending on the lighting conditions:






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Something I've been thinking about with nice pics of the XPS. Can anyone explain if the lug to lug wear similarly or how they compare to a regular alpine eagle? Thanks.
They are practically identical in lug-to-lug length:


The case thickness on the AE XPS decreases by 1.5mm (8.2mm vs 9.7mm):


IMHO It’s also more refined with a thinner bezel / wider dial:


From certain angles, the bezel on the standard AE appears to be ‘squeezed’ at the 12 and 6 o’clock positions:


You have the added benefit of the push-button butterfly clasp:


Finally, the stunning L.U.C 96.40-L:


I’ve tried on the Overseas multiple times when they were readily available in display cases. I absolutely love this blue dial!




The one thing to keep in mind is that this generation was announced in January 2016. I have no ‘intel,’ but these are long overdue for an update. I would not be surprised if we see an update next year! I would hope the next generation will be slightly smaller and thinner, like that platinum grey dial from 2016! Perhaps, they will be readily available once again! Then again, we may not like the updates!

Good luck with your decision, Mike!
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Old 6 November 2023, 05:38 AM   #16
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They are practically identical in lug-to-lug length:
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IMHO It’s also more refined with a thinner bezel / wider dial:
I thank you for the pics and feedback with these in hand. Helps me a lot deciding with a smaller wrist and comparison to the 4500v.
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Old 6 November 2023, 03:04 AM   #17
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I believe the VC Overseas is due new bracelet next year !

I would hold any purchase. current one is almost with no tapering and feels bulky vs the newly released VC retrograde date ! .. Bracelet is completely different in dimensions
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Old 6 November 2023, 03:18 AM   #18
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37 mm AP is another option depending on wrist. These are both big watches.
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Old 6 November 2023, 03:48 AM   #19
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VC to me is a far superior piece in terms of finish and fit and overall brand relevance - that said I do like chopard I’d just never choose one personally over a vc
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Old 6 November 2023, 05:53 AM   #20
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The VC is a big watch, and frankly too big because of the lugs that flare out so much. Made me sell mine.
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Old 9 November 2023, 01:45 PM   #21
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VC on rubber is very comfortable on the wrist.

Do you need or want a date function?

7 year warranty (or balance of) with the VC once registered.
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Old 20 December 2023, 09:12 AM   #22
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VC that blue is amazing!
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