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Old 17 March 2024, 07:07 AM   #1
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26574ST - Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar Blue Dial 41 mm

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I am offered the perpetual calendar from my AD. It obviously is a stunning piece surely. Do you guys think it is really hard to be offered this piece? Should I be pulling the trigger for 110k list price?


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Old 19 March 2024, 12:44 PM   #2
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For sure. QP should be harder this year due to the Jm version. When I first inquired about this piece back in 20, seems doable as a first piece with some convincing. Then I guess I wasn’t convincing enough lol. Still waiting for this myself.


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Old 20 March 2024, 01:41 PM   #3
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the blue dial? that piece is going below retail in the Grey at the moment take this into consideration.

White dials going for as low as $86k Grey and Blue Dials $96k Grey

it’s an amazing piece for sure I have a QP and love it. Very sexy
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Old 20 March 2024, 08:31 PM   #4
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They inflated the price of this piece so much in past few years it is below retail at the moment on secondary. I wouldnt pay 110k for it.


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Old 23 March 2024, 04:18 AM   #5
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They inflated the price of this piece so much in past few years it is below retail at the moment on secondary. I wouldnt pay 110k for it.


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Same here… Too expensive for a steel watch
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Old 23 March 2024, 04:37 AM   #6
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Same here… Too expensive for a steel watch
I think the steel works for the RO because it was designed to be in steel. JMHO
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Old 23 March 2024, 06:20 AM   #7
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26574ST - Royal Oak Perpetual Calendar Blue Dial 41 mm

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I think the steel works for the RO because it was designed to be in steel. JMHO

Never said it doesn’t work. I personally like the watch a lot! However that been said I wouldn’t spend that amount of $$$ for a steel watch.
When I did put my name down for it it was below 80k, that I could have pay for this watch (even if I thought it was already a bit over priced) today I wouldn’t pay that kind of money for that kind of watch…

And yes this is a watch that trade in the 90k today on the grey market (blue dial full set). Someone offered me one in January and even at that price he couldn’t sell it anyway that’s another story.
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Old 23 March 2024, 05:12 AM   #8
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They inflated the price of this piece so much in past few years it is below retail at the moment on secondary. I wouldnt pay 110k for it.


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I'd pay 110k for it if it had 50m+ WR instead of barely being splash proof
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Old 26 March 2024, 09:51 AM   #9
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They inflated the price of this piece so much in past few years it is below retail at the moment on secondary. I wouldnt pay 110k for it.


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It's crazy. I believe this was around 60k retail in 2018.
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Old 26 March 2024, 12:23 PM   #10
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It's crazy. I believe this was around 60k retail in 2018.
Is it really though? Seem pretty inline with Patek and VC QP pricing.
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Old 26 March 2024, 08:53 PM   #11
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Is it really though? Seem pretty inline with Patek and VC QP pricing.

Yes but AP is steel v PM for VC. And AP doubled the price in 6 years !!
Patek in a different league as far as PC imo. However, I believe ALL companies got a little too aggressive with price increasing during the “boom”. Be interesting to see how it plays out moving ahead.


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Old 20 March 2024, 10:28 PM   #12
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Hi everyone,

I am offered the perpetual calendar from my AD. It obviously is a stunning piece surely. Do you guys think it is really hard to be offered this piece? Should I be pulling the trigger for 110k list price?


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If this is purely a financial decision, no.
If you love the piece, absolutely.
In the end, they just discontinued the 5134 movement (the JM is the last), so this model as it stands will also be discontinued. If you saw the evolution of the Jumbo for the 50th, they upgraded the movement and integrated changes to the case design. Taking a total guess that they would do the same with the PC for the 150th. It would be a good reason to let your dealer know you would like to pass to wait for the anticipated 150th anniversary versions..


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Old 20 March 2024, 11:57 PM   #13
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Owning one I can say: do it.

Under retail, dial color 03 2024? Show me.

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Old 21 March 2024, 01:41 AM   #14
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Under retail, dial color 03 2024? Show me.
Agreed. I've seen a few around 100, but not below, and they were many years old and not in the cleanest condition. Also most people here have no idea how to find those elusive deals
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Old 21 March 2024, 02:22 AM   #15
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Owning one I can say: do it.

Under retail, dial color 03 2024? Show me.

There was actually one that got sold pretty quickly last week.
It was around 92K CHF and I even double check it is the .03 reference. 2023 year.
By the time I reached out to the dealer, it was sold. This was in Chrono24.
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Old 21 March 2024, 03:04 AM   #16
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There was actually one that got sold pretty quickly last week.
It was around 92K CHF and I even double check it is the .03 reference. 2023 year.
By the time I reached out to the dealer, it was sold. This was in Chrono24.

The cheapest on chrono is still for sale at €113K

It’s 2022.

Never been cheaper.
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Old 21 March 2024, 03:23 AM   #17
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The cheapest on chrono is still for sale at €113K

It’s 2022.

Never been cheaper.
Also 2022's would have had the benefit of the c.20k cheaper pricing so the ones people see for £80-90k are still above the list paid of around £70k at the time.

2023 models £100 and up
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Old 21 March 2024, 03:35 AM   #18
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Also 2022's would have had the benefit of the c.20k cheaper pricing so the ones people see for £80-90k are still above the list paid of around £70k at the time.

2023 models £100 and up

that also!
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Old 21 March 2024, 12:48 AM   #19
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Just get it if it’s in retai, no regrets haha
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Old 21 March 2024, 02:17 AM   #20
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100% go for it….. makes me smile every time I look down at my wrist




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Old 21 March 2024, 02:28 AM   #21
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I assume you have history with AP otherwise they wouldn't offer PC as first or second piece. If you like the complication and wish to continue path with relationship I say don't worry current market situation rather get it. Its complicated. :-)
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Old 21 March 2024, 02:42 AM   #22
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It’s a buy.


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Old 21 March 2024, 12:39 PM   #23
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I am guessing the price increase was in anticipation of the impending inhouse movement. Probably didn't want a big jump for that release and didn't know how the market would be next year.

I would absolutely pull the trigger.
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Old 23 March 2024, 07:27 AM   #24
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This doesn’t matter anymore but I bought one for 130, 50k over at the time and thought I was nuts. Sold it back to the same dealer a year later for 180! Wore it everyday and it was amazing. Never thought I would sell it but glad I did. I’ve never made money on any other watch though haha.


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This doesn’t matter anymore but I bought one for 130, 50k over at the time and thought I was nuts. Sold it back to the same dealer a year later for 180!
Those were the days, apparently
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Old 23 March 2024, 06:22 PM   #26
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Old 23 March 2024, 08:08 PM   #27
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Old 25 March 2024, 03:04 AM   #29
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If you can afford it, absolutely!
What’s the grey market price for this these days?
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Old 25 March 2024, 10:53 AM   #30
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If you can afford it, absolutely!
What’s the grey market price for this these days?

Slightly under.


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