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steverb5000 · 14 November 2009, 01:51 AM

Hi All,

Am researching a steel GMT II C that is essentially brand new... Been worn once or twice I've been told.

No scratches.

I may be able to get the watch for around $4500 - $4800 and will have it verified by authorized dealer before purchasing.

The watch was initally purchased at a local AD and comes with a receipt.

Does this seem like a good price?

Thx!

S

Submarino · 14 November 2009, 01:54 AM

I personally would never buy a watch off of Craigslist. But that's me. Price wise is very a good deal as long as it comes with box, papers, etc.

newmedia · 14 November 2009, 01:56 AM

thats pretty much lowest I seen on any used GMT2C on any internet sites.

as long as the seller is OK with getting verified before the exchaging funds, go for it,

steverb5000 · 14 November 2009, 01:56 AM

I'm sure that there are lots of scammers on Craigslist but I will be able to verify the serial number with the Authorized Dealer it was purchased from... And watch does come with papers... I'm sure that this still could be a scam but it would seem tricky to be able to fake a receipt and serial number and have an AD verify it... I'm sure it's possible somehow, though.

newmedia · 14 November 2009, 01:58 AM

pay what ever the cost is and open it up at AD.

steverb5000 · 14 November 2009, 01:59 AM

The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

newmedia · 14 November 2009, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steverb5000

The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

Tell the seller that watch needs to be oped up, maybe standard watch repair place could open it up ? , so make two trips that close to each store.

I mean seller wants to sell it, it should not be a big deal and the seller could take photo of inside at same time.

drtooth73 · 19 November 2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by newmedia

Tell the seller that watch needs to be oped up, maybe standard watch repair place could open it up ? , so make two trips that close to each store.

I mean seller wants to sell it, it should not be a big deal and the seller could take photo of inside at same time.

The seller should not open a watch.
Only a professional watchmaker should.
The Rolex needs to be resealed to be waterproof.
The best ways to check if authentic, are the correct numbers and weight.

greekbum · 20 November 2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by drtooth73

The seller should not open a watch.
Only a professional watchmaker should.
The Rolex needs to be resealed to be waterproof.
The best ways to check if authentic, are the correct numbers and weight.

I have seen new GMT 2C That have the correct serial numbers and a cloned movement recently for sale and they are fake but would fool even an AD or somebody who hasnt handled many.Yes they are out there.The fakes get better every year and now I am afraid to say its at a new higher level.The bottom line is you are either an expert or a gambler when buying things you are not sure of to save maybe 10%-25%.I dont want to steal this thread so I will start a new 1 about something that I saw this weekend

GMTgemstones · 20 November 2009, 01:45 AM

I think when buying from a Selling site, such as CL, you could asking the seller if your not local if they bought it new and from which dealer, you could verify from the dealer some information, if that's possible? Do not know... but that would tell you if in fact that watch was indeed purchased new from a Rolex Authorized Dealer. I'm sure there are ways to verify a watches authenticity just as sure as having the watch opened for verification.
Deals are always out there, its just whether your able to assure yourself its a deal or not.

jms_w · 14 November 2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by steverb5000

The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

No. If the AD won't open it, you need to find a reputable and certified Rolex watchmaker with a Rolex parts account. They can verify that the serial and model numbers were laser-etched, the bracelet serial is within spec, the correctness of the LEC, the 3186 movement, dial, and bezel. It costed me $50to do for my 16613 but worth every penny for peace of mind. If the seller is not willing to let you do this, please walk away from this.

Atl · 14 November 2009, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steverb5000

The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

That is true, they won't open it. Be careful.

Bisquitlips · 19 November 2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steverb5000

The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

No.

sea-dweller · 14 November 2009, 02:03 AM

I would not buy from Craigslist...

steverb5000 · 14 November 2009, 02:12 AM

What would I even look for if the watch were opened up?

Deep Sea · 14 November 2009, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by steverb5000

What would I even look for if the watch were opened up?

Any Rolex-trained watchmaker that opens it up can tell you if it is authentic or not. You don't need to know much yourself, only be sure you find a reputable watchmaker. I would imagine there are plenty in NYC.

jtwenty · 14 November 2009, 02:13 AM

i would not buy from craigslist.

cobblecanyon · 14 November 2009, 02:42 AM

If anything checks out, you got yourself a hell of a deal.

rickyslam · 14 November 2009, 02:45 AM

Many would probably wont buy from Craigslist, but then again I did. My watch is real, it was sent to Rolex and came back no problem. I just had an AD verified it, it also just so happened that the seller was a TRFer, so I don't think we should jump to conclusions so quick on CL. There are precautions though before you buy. Just be smart about it.

SLS · 14 November 2009, 02:47 AM

Craig's List has a lot, and I mean a lot, of stolen pictures from other Internet sites. Does the ad for the GMT have the little eBay photo sign in the corner? Do a search on eBay and look through the pictures of watches for sale. IMHO, if you do not know what to look for in a genuine Rolex, then stick with a trusted pre-owned brick & mortar store or an AD.
Scott

rickyslam · 14 November 2009, 02:51 AM

This reminds me of an ad I just saw for a GMT-II on CL, it had a photo on there that was pretty bad quality, but you can totally tell that right next to the watch it said "Larry". Not sure if it was really Larry's though.

deserted · 14 November 2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rickyslam

This reminds me of an ad I just saw for a GMT-II on CL, it had a photo on there that was pretty bad quality, but you can totally tell that right next to the watch it said "Larry". Not sure if it was really Larry's though.

X2

Zgar · 19 November 2009, 11:18 PM

Don't do it I would buy from one of the sellers here ( Like DavidSw ) or AD, I also know a trusty seller on Ebay that I have bought Rolex from. anyway spend the extra money and get peace of mind Trusty ebay seller has this http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-GMT-C-Stai...t_14936wt_1167

Eli · 14 November 2009, 03:00 AM

I would pay more for peace of mind. But that is just me.

Timber Loftis · 14 November 2009, 03:03 AM

Craig's list is great, we use it all the time to buy and sell stuff locally. If you're in the market for, say, furniture, then buying local is a must.

Anyway, meet face to face, verify everything is legit, and you've got a great price most of us would be jealous for. If anything smells funny, though, just walk away.

Eli · 14 November 2009, 03:06 AM

^ Right on. If ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING doesn't seem in place, tell him you'll get back to him. Be careful if you're walking with cash too. Who knows if he'll follow you afterwards if the deal goes sour....

RolexCat · 14 November 2009, 04:23 AM

Too many cons out there. I would look in the for sale area here. For a little more a new one, or a nice used one can be had, along with peace of mind. Ron

Watch Professor · 14 November 2009, 04:37 AM

I would have the watch opened. This price seems too good to be true.

Z-Sub · 14 November 2009, 06:38 AM

No Craig's list for me. You may get a real one but it might be hot

rickyslam · 14 November 2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Sub

No Craig's list for me. You may get a real one but it might be hot

Hmm...Shouldn't be too hot if it has papers though. No?? Just wondering.

14 November 2009, 01:51 AM	#1
steverb5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4	Is this a good deal? GMT II C - on Craigslist Hi All, Am researching a steel GMT II C that is essentially brand new... Been worn once or twice I've been told. No scratches. I may be able to get the watch for around $4500 - $4800 and will have it verified by authorized dealer before purchasing. The watch was initally purchased at a local AD and comes with a receipt. Does this seem like a good price? Thx! S

14 November 2009, 01:54 AM	#2
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	I personally would never buy a watch off of Craigslist. But that's me. Price wise is very a good deal as long as it comes with box, papers, etc. __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

20 November 2009, 01:45 AM	#10
GMTgemstones Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Northern Cali Watch: GMT-Master II TT Posts: 20	always curious... I think when buying from a Selling site, such as CL, you could asking the seller if your not local if they bought it new and from which dealer, you could verify from the dealer some information, if that's possible? Do not know... but that would tell you if in fact that watch was indeed purchased new from a Rolex Authorized Dealer. I'm sure there are ways to verify a watches authenticity just as sure as having the watch opened for verification. Deals are always out there, its just whether your able to assure yourself its a deal or not.

14 November 2009, 02:03 AM	#14
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I would not buy from Craigslist... __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

14 November 2009, 02:47 AM	#20
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Craig's List has a lot, and I mean a lot, of stolen pictures from other Internet sites. Does the ad for the GMT have the little eBay photo sign in the corner? Do a search on eBay and look through the pictures of watches for sale. IMHO, if you do not know what to look for in a genuine Rolex, then stick with a trusted pre-owned brick & mortar store or an AD. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

14 November 2009, 01:56 AM	#3
newmedia "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 526	thats pretty much lowest I seen on any used GMT2C on any internet sites. as long as the seller is OK with getting verified before the exchaging funds, go for it,

14 November 2009, 01:58 AM	#5
newmedia "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 526	pay what ever the cost is and open it up at AD.

14 November 2009, 01:59 AM	#6
steverb5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4	The AD won't open the watch up, however... They will however, confirm that the receipt is original, that the serial numbers match, and that the watch looks authentic from the outside... is that good enough?

14 November 2009, 02:12 AM	#15
steverb5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 4	What would I even look for if the watch were opened up?

14 November 2009, 02:13 AM	#17
jtwenty "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: James Location: New York City Watch: Rolex Posts: 110	i would not buy from craigslist.

14 November 2009, 02:42 AM	#18
cobblecanyon "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: JT Location: Texas Watch: 116710LN, 116610LN Posts: 453	If anything checks out, you got yourself a hell of a deal.

14 November 2009, 02:45 AM	#19
rickyslam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Ricky Location: City of Sin Watch: Hulk, DaytonaC, DJ Posts: 1,152	Many would probably wont buy from Craigslist, but then again I did. My watch is real, it was sent to Rolex and came back no problem. I just had an AD verified it, it also just so happened that the seller was a TRFer, so I don't think we should jump to conclusions so quick on CL. There are precautions though before you buy. Just be smart about it.

14 November 2009, 02:51 AM	#21
rickyslam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Ricky Location: City of Sin Watch: Hulk, DaytonaC, DJ Posts: 1,152	This reminds me of an ad I just saw for a GMT-II on CL, it had a photo on there that was pretty bad quality, but you can totally tell that right next to the watch it said "Larry". Not sure if it was really Larry's though.

19 November 2009, 11:18 PM	#23
Zgar Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 459	Don't do it I would buy from one of the sellers here ( Like DavidSw ) or AD, I also know a trusty seller on Ebay that I have bought Rolex from. anyway spend the extra money and get peace of mind Trusty ebay seller has this http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-GMT-C-Stai...t_14936wt_1167

14 November 2009, 03:00 AM	#24
Eli Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 459	I would pay more for peace of mind. But that is just me.

14 November 2009, 03:03 AM	#25
Timber Loftis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Jon Location: Chicago Watch: IIc,DJII,P244,A1-Z Posts: 2,857	Craig's list is great, we use it all the time to buy and sell stuff locally. If you're in the market for, say, furniture, then buying local is a must. Anyway, meet face to face, verify everything is legit, and you've got a great price most of us would be jealous for. If anything smells funny, though, just walk away.

14 November 2009, 03:06 AM	#26
Eli Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: montreal Posts: 459	^ Right on. If ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING doesn't seem in place, tell him you'll get back to him. Be careful if you're walking with cash too. Who knows if he'll follow you afterwards if the deal goes sour....

14 November 2009, 04:23 AM	#27
RolexCat Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Ron Location: Michigan Watch: SD Posts: 318	Too many cons out there. I would look in the for sale area here. For a little more a new one, or a nice used one can be had, along with peace of mind. Ron

14 November 2009, 04:37 AM	#28
Watch Professor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Myron Location: New York Watch: GMT IIC; Sub Date Posts: 3,166	I would have the watch opened. This price seems too good to be true.

14 November 2009, 06:38 AM	#29
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	No Craig's list for me. You may get a real one but it might be hot __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

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