GMT II Ceramic on Jubilee bracelet

[theken]

For those that asked, a couple of pictures.
Jubilee bracelet is from a M series Datejust, the GMTIIC is a V series.
The bracelet goes on without any problem although you must use the Datejust springs bars. They are smaller in diameter to fit the Jubilee solid end links.

[JJ Irani]

Looks terrific......I approve!!

[Timber Loftis]

Awesome.

[brkanand]

Looks elegant

[cobblecanyon]

OMG - the torturing continues for me.

Still looking for a SS jubilee bracelet for my Gmt IIc too. If I can't find one sooooonnnnnnnn I will.........

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by cobblecanyon

OMG - the torturing continues for me.

Still looking for a SS jubilee bracelet for my Gmt IIc too. If I can't find one sooooonnnnnnnn I will.........

We are both in the same boat, Matt!!!

[cobblecanyon]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

We are both in the same boat, Matt!!!

I may have proof of life (bracelet)...found another AD in Anaheim Cali., that will look for a bracelet for me. Told him exactly what you told me, part no. 63200 I believe with all links. Lets see if he can cure Rolex Cancer for some of us...

If it works out for me, I will pass his infor to you. of course I will post pictures once I get it in my hands.

[scl6118]

Not bad!

[cobblecanyon]

This will look great with a SUIT I tell ya!!!!! No more debate about it!!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by cobblecanyon

This will look great with a SUIT I tell ya!!!!! No more debate about it!!

Calm down, tosser......you'll bust a vessel!!

[valentine]

WOW....how SWEET is that. way to go.

[ingoodtime]

that looks great. I'd like the jubilee myself. It is a classy
llook. Wish Rolex would have offered that as a choice.

[JP500]

I'd love a Pepsi GMT IIc but I can't justify a third Rolex with an Oyster bracelet. I'd buy a vintage Pepsi with Jubilee but I don't want to deal with stretch.

So let's just hope Rolex makes the ultimate combo: a Pepsi on super jubilee. I'd buy it the first day it was available.

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by JP500

I'd love a Pepsi GMT IIc but I can't justify a third Rolex with an Oyster bracelet. I'd buy a vintage Pepsi with Jubilee but I don't want to deal with stretch.

So let's just hope Rolex makes the ultimate combo: a Pepsi on super jubilee. I'd buy it the first day it was available.

You'd be able to get a Pepsi 16710 and buy a Super Jubilee for it - bit on the pricey side, but it looks stunning - a couple of our members have done this.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

You'd be able to get a Pepsi 16710 and buy a Super Jubilee for it - bit on the pricey side, but it looks stunning - a couple of our members have done this.

Chris, Mark and I have been there, done that.
dP

[JJ Irani]

There we go again!!

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Chris, Mark and I have been there, done that.
dP

Cheers Dan, there's something about a Jubilee on a GMT, I have no idea why Rolex stopped offering it as a factory option

[Speed]

What do folks think of the non-super Jubilee bracelet for GMT II Coke ??

I can actually get one of these bracelets new, but no bueno on the SUPER Jubilee.

Realize we are talking hollow end links and hollow center links, so the watch will feel light...

I don't mind the visible clasp...only on the underside of the wrist

Thoughts???

[Ebruner]

I cannot say I like it, but we each have our preferences, and I'm happy you are pleased with it and it fit so easily!!

-Eddie

[Dan Pierce]

Stunning, Mark. Gotta see that at our next GTG.
dP

[Speed]

Thanks JJ.

My watch is a Mint D-Series so no Lug holes.

I would be buying the old-style Jubilee but NOS (New Old Stock). Yup. Pricing looks to be about $575 - $675 USD. Will need to look into it further.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by masugu

Thanks JJ.

My watch is a Mint D-Series so no Lug holes.

I would be buying the old-style Jubilee but NOS (New Old Stock). Yup. Pricing looks to be about $575 - $675 USD. Will need to look into it further.

If your GMT-II is WITHOUT lug-holes, then just make sure that the end links are numbered with the last letter ending in "T".

The "T" denotes that those end links are designed for a no lug-hole case. Just make sure you get the correct spring-bars with ridges on the ends so they can be taken off with a Bergeon 6111.

JJ

[Speed]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

If your GMT-II is WITHOUT lug-holes, then just make sure that the end links are numbered with the last letter ending in "T".

The "T" denotes that those end links are designed for a no lug-hole case. Just make sure you get the correct spring-bars with ridges on the ends so they can be taken off with a Bergeon 6111.

JJ

Well, I have to report that the old school Jubilee did NOT fit my GMT II / No Holes case. No "T" end pieces in stock either. I could go back and try to order the peices and/or have the watchmaker custom cut the standard Hollow end links to work ...but I am not crazy about potentially having a loose fit. Granted at about $700 all told, it would be a cheaper proposition than the Super Jubilee route.

I looked at the Super Jubilee (TT) just for fit. I think the $1350 price for a SS bracelet is a bit too steep for me - on a supposed self-imposed watch diet.

I was also told by the watchmaker that his personal Super Jubilee had "opened up" a few times on him... that does not make me feel good!!!

Looks like I will be keeping my stock bracelet for a while... I like it just fine.

Time to experiment with my red / black NATO!!! Sorry JJ.

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by masugu

Well, I have to report that the old school Jubilee did NOT fit my GMT II / No Holes case. No "T" end pieces in stock either. I could go back and try to order the peices and/or have the watchmaker custom cut the standard Hollow end links to work ...but I am not crazy about potentially having a loose fit.

Was this a problem getting the endlinks to sit properly between the lug holes and the case so that the spring bars would fit into the holes?
See my earlier post in this thread, I went through 3 pairs of 502T end links to find 2 links that fit perfectly and tightly on my Jubilee/ GMT II combination. I could not believe this was happening but got there in the end.

Peter

[Speed]

Originally Posted by PeterT

Was this a problem getting the endlinks to sit properly between the lug holes and the case so that the spring bars would fit into the holes?
See my earlier post in this thread, I went through 3 pairs of 502T end links to find 2 links that fit perfectly and tightly on my Jubilee/ GMT II combination. I could not believe this was happening but got there in the end.

Peter

The watchmaker did not have "T" end links for the old school bracelet... But I missed your 502 distinction...

I could try again, or have him order the end pieces... but thinking now that I don't need to spend the $700. My Oyster works (and looks) fine & dandy.

[Speed]

Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points ( Bergeon 6825 PF Pliers with fine fork) , but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have a different tool for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by masugu

Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points, but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have one for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex

I have the original SWISS Bergeon 6111 - works perfectly on spring-bars for no lug-hole cases.

Make sure you get the SWISS version only - cheaper models are available, but they snap off like toothpicks when you apply the pressure needed to free the spring-bar from the lug-hole!!

[PeterT]

Originally Posted by masugu

Thx again...

So the Bergeon 6111 is the normal Rolex-freindly tool I need for taking off No Lug Hole bracelets?

Was debating getting those pricey tweezers with the skinnier points ( Bergeon 6825 PF Pliers with fine fork) , but might just get the 6111 tool.

Already have a different tool for Omega, but I think the points are too wide for safe use on Rolex

The Bergeon 6825PF is fine for taking off the GMT II Oyster bracelet but the forks are still too wide for the Jubilee 502T endlinks. You have to file the forks to make the points finer still. As the forks are double ended you can have one set normal and the other end filed for the narrow slot endlinks.
The SD no holes endlink needs the filed points but the Submariner no holes is fine with the standard fine forks.

PeterT

[Speed]

Thanks again JJ.

Just ordered the original Bergeon 6111.

[PeterT]

I have got a Jubilee on one of my GMT II watches and it is excellent. I bought the bracelet from Rolex earlier this year.
The only issue is not all of the 502T end links are a perfect fit straight out of the box. I had 3 pairs of endlinks before I had a pair that would fit straight on without any straining.
The chap at Rolex I spoke to in London said it was a known issue due to having to form the endlink from a straight piece of metal and bend it into a C shape. This was one of the reasons that the solid endlink had been introduced so they would be a perfect fit every time.
I thought about the stretch and decided to go with it as the Jubilee is half the price of a Super Jubilee. So if it wears out, (which I doubt) I can always buy another one!

PeterT