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Nicko · 15 January 2010, 07:56 AM

Hey guys, got a quick question regarding USPS Registered. My Tudor Sub was shipped from the US on the 31st of last month and still no sign of it. Should I start to worry? How slow is USPS Registered Mail really. I have no reason to distrust the seller, but when I log into the USPS Website and input the tracking info, all it tells me is that it was accepted for shipment, it doesn't even say it was sent! WTFO? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I filed a dispute with Paypal just to cover my butt, but I would really like the watch.

Signed,

Sleepless in Spain!

armoredsaint · 15 January 2010, 07:59 AM

FYI, USPS is a terrible tracking system - i think it's just a basic confirmation only when it's delivered.

it's very inconsistent from my personal experience. if you want real tracking - try UPS or FedEx next time.

Renoir · 15 January 2010, 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=armoredsaint;1572259]FYI, USPS is a terrible tracking system - i think it's just a basic confirmation only when it's delivered.QUOTE]

+1.

I would imagine that it would take a little longer for international beacuse USPS would have to hand over the shipment to EMS. (Different carrier, or just a subsidiary? Not sure)

Hang in there!

robsteve · 15 January 2010, 08:00 AM

Steve:

I don't know about shipping to Spain, but I have been told registered mail is the safest and slowest method of shipping. Everybody that handles the package has to sign for it and if I recall correctly, it is also held in a safe storage area in between movements.

Robert

DVR · 15 January 2010, 08:03 AM

You should have it by the end of the week, maybe with the holidays beginning next week tops.
It takes time sending with USPS overseas.

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 08:05 AM

Forgot to add, the shipment is going through the FPO AE here in Spain, (military postal system) I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this?

kyle L · 15 January 2010, 08:10 AM

USPS has horrible tracking updates, but maybe it may be taking some time since it was shipped from another country. But USPS hasn't failed me yet, and I'm sure you'll have a happy ending.

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle L

USPS has horrible tracking updates, but maybe it may be taking some time since it was shipped from another country. But USPS hasn't failed me yet, and I'm sure you'll have a happy ending.

That's what I need to hear, a little optimism.

Thanks!

Wolfgang427 · 15 January 2010, 08:21 AM

Though the tracking is terrible, its the most reliable method of shipping.

Why would you file a paypal dispute when you haven't received it yet?

If it shows it was shipped then its still in the system and if its registered then its insured. Did you contact the seller beforehand to see whats going on?

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfgang427

Though the tracking is terrible, its the most reliable method of shipping.

Why would you file a paypal dispute when you haven't received it yet?

If it shows it was shipped then its still in the system and if its registered then its insured. Did you contact the seller beforehand to see whats going on?

I filed to cover my butt....You didn't read the post,

it doesn't say it was ever shipped!

Yes, I contacted the seller and I will cancel the complaint as soon as I receive it. I don't know about you, but $2.5k is nothing I'm going to fool around with, especially with eBay.

Wolfgang427 · 15 January 2010, 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

I filed to cover my butt....You didn't read the post,

it doesn't say it was ever shipped!

Yes, I contacted the seller and I will cancel the complaint as soon as I receive it. I don't know about you, but $2.5k is nothing I'm going to fool around with, especially with eBay.

Accepted in USPS terminology means shipped.

They can't list it as accepted if it wasn't shipped and accepted at a USPO. Also if you bought it off of ebay your covered 100% with the paypal buyer protection by ebay. If you would of bought it off ebay and payed with paypal you would have no buyer protection except in the case of lack of delivery proof.

Safetrends · 15 January 2010, 08:22 AM

It has taken me a couple of weeks to get packages to and from Spain.
Now Hong Kong is like four days, the reason is the mail flight from Hong Kong lands in California where I live. Go figure

gt3pilot · 15 January 2010, 08:23 AM

In almost 30 years of shipping using USPS registered mail I have never had a package not make it. A couple of times it took quite awhile, but they always have made it. Also shipping out of the country takes much longer than even what they tell you at the PO. I recently sent a package to Canada and it said 7-10 days with priority mail. Turned out to actually take almost a month with customs and everything else, but it arrive safe and sound !!

The PO. has been a bit better lately with their tracking, at least that's been my experience. It's not Fedex or UPS like, but it's getting better.

-Scott B.

train-time · 15 January 2010, 09:04 AM

The amount of time for a USPS Registered to a FPO is not out of the norm. It will show up!

jamesworthy52 · 15 January 2010, 10:42 AM

I once shipped a 3 carat diamond via registered mail from Florida to New York. It took a week and a half and the tracking only showed accepted until it was finally delivered. It is a nerve-racking waiting period but it will make it. It's too bad they don't adopt FedEx's tracking system.

JRA21 · 15 January 2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesworthy52

I once shipped a 3 carat diamond via registered mail from Florida to New York. It took a week and a half and the tracking only showed accepted until it was finally delivered. It is a nerve-racking waiting period but it will make it. It's too bad they don't adopt FedEx's tracking system.

X2

billjetpilot · 15 January 2010, 12:08 PM

Nicko:

I have to say that I was offended by your filing a complaint against me on PayPal. We were in contact all the time, exchanging daily emails about the shipment of your Tudor. I sent you scans of the actual receipt and customs form that I received when I shipped your watch. I shipped the watch exactly as you specified USPS registered mail. (I usually ship FedEx, because as a pilot for Frontier Airlines I get a special rate.) Your watch is in-transit and will arrive soon. Please be patient.

By filing a complaint against me on PayPal you bring into doubt my integrity and that is upsetting. I have been a seller for almost 10 years on Ebay and have sold many high end watches all without a single complaint. I have been a member of Timezone for 6 years and have dozens of references attesting to my honesty. I am also a watch collector and really enjoy the hobby of owning and restoring vintage watches. I take my Ebay responsibilities as a seller very seriously.

Billjetpilot on Ebay, Timezone, and now TRF

DVR · 15 January 2010, 12:16 PM

Welcome Bill, I 100% agree with you.
I would be offended too. Some buyers are hard to please.

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billjetpilot

Nicko:

I have to say that I was offended by your filing a complaint against me on PayPal. We were in contact all the time, exchanging daily emails about the shipment of your Tudor. I sent you scans of the actual receipt and customs form that I received when I shipped your watch. I shipped the watch exactly as you specified USPS registered mail. (I usually ship FedEx, because as a pilot for Frontier Airlines I get a special rate.) Your watch is in-transit and will arrive soon. Please be patient.

By filing a complaint against me on PayPal you bring into doubt my integrity and that is upsetting. I have been a seller for almost 10 years on Ebay and have sold many high end watches all without a single complaint. I have been a member of Timezone for 6 years and have dozens of references attesting to my honesty. I am also a watch collector and really enjoy the hobby of owning and restoring vintage watches. I take my Ebay responsibilities as a seller very seriously.

Billjetpilot on Ebay, Timezone, and now TRF

Please PM me, I did not mention your name nor eBay ID on this forum.

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 12:46 PM

Also Bill, please read my original post...

Quote:

I have no reason to distrust the seller

And....

Quote:

when I log into the USPS Website and input the tracking info, all it tells me is that it was accepted for shipment, it doesn't even say it was sent

And.....

Quote:

I filed a dispute with Paypal just to cover my butt

I don't accuse you of anything nor do I question your integrity.....I simply filed to protect my self and my money!

Quote:

I would be offended too. Some buyers are hard to please.

As for you DVR, you would be wise to keep you comments to yourself, it's MY money we are talking about and not yours, and unless you know something I don't then shut the hell up...

DVR · 15 January 2010, 01:10 PM

Nicko, you my dear sir have no manners

Nicko · 15 January 2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVR

Nicko, you my dear sir have no manners

Quote:

I would be offended too. Some buyers are hard to please.

But I know when not to interject comments when I know absolutely nothing about what is going on.

The above comment was uncalled for....

cornerstore · 15 January 2010, 01:06 PM

Today is 9 working days since it was sent to you on the 31st.You can go on USPS site and get a delivery times guide they are very good.http://www.usps.com/international/sendpackages.htm
USPS takes 10 days from US to Canada customs included if no problems.With Ebay you had 30 days to make a claim ,as well Spain customs can be a bit slow.That said enjoy your new watch when it comes.

RogerF · 15 January 2010, 01:18 PM

as requested I am shutting this down. Buyer and seller take it to PM.

15 January 2010, 07:56 AM	#1
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	USPS Registered FPO Shipment Question Hey guys, got a quick question regarding USPS Registered. My Tudor Sub was shipped from the US on the 31st of last month and still no sign of it. Should I start to worry? How slow is USPS Registered Mail really. I have no reason to distrust the seller, but when I log into the USPS Website and input the tracking info, all it tells me is that it was accepted for shipment, it doesn't even say it was sent! WTFO? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I filed a dispute with Paypal just to cover my butt, but I would really like the watch. Signed, Sleepless in Spain!

15 January 2010, 08:03 AM	#5
DVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Denis Location: Flanders, EU Watch: Diver watches Posts: 2,009	You should have it by the end of the week, maybe with the holidays beginning next week tops. It takes time sending with USPS overseas. __________________ AP - BP - UN - GO - GS - JLC - RLX

15 January 2010, 12:08 PM	#17
billjetpilot Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bill Location: littleton Posts: 17	You are in good hands... Nicko: I have to say that I was offended by your filing a complaint against me on PayPal. We were in contact all the time, exchanging daily emails about the shipment of your Tudor. I sent you scans of the actual receipt and customs form that I received when I shipped your watch. I shipped the watch exactly as you specified USPS registered mail. (I usually ship FedEx, because as a pilot for Frontier Airlines I get a special rate.) Your watch is in-transit and will arrive soon. Please be patient. By filing a complaint against me on PayPal you bring into doubt my integrity and that is upsetting. I have been a seller for almost 10 years on Ebay and have sold many high end watches all without a single complaint. I have been a member of Timezone for 6 years and have dozens of references attesting to my honesty. I am also a watch collector and really enjoy the hobby of owning and restoring vintage watches. I take my Ebay responsibilities as a seller very seriously. Billjetpilot on Ebay, Timezone, and now TRF

15 January 2010, 12:16 PM	#18
DVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Denis Location: Flanders, EU Watch: Diver watches Posts: 2,009	Welcome Bill, I 100% agree with you. I would be offended too. Some buyers are hard to please. __________________ AP - BP - UN - GO - GS - JLC - RLX

15 January 2010, 01:10 PM	#21
DVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Denis Location: Flanders, EU Watch: Diver watches Posts: 2,009	Nicko, you my dear sir have no manners __________________ AP - BP - UN - GO - GS - JLC - RLX

15 January 2010, 07:59 AM	#2
armoredsaint "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bubba Location: Ohio, USA Watch: GMT Master IIc SS Posts: 318	FYI, USPS is a terrible tracking system - i think it's just a basic confirmation only when it's delivered. it's very inconsistent from my personal experience. if you want real tracking - try UPS or FedEx next time.

15 January 2010, 08:03 AM	#3
Renoir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: New York Posts: 2,396	[QUOTE=armoredsaint;1572259]FYI, USPS is a terrible tracking system - i think it's just a basic confirmation only when it's delivered.QUOTE] +1. I would imagine that it would take a little longer for international beacuse USPS would have to hand over the shipment to EMS. (Different carrier, or just a subsidiary? Not sure) Hang in there!

15 January 2010, 08:00 AM	#4
robsteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 776	Steve: I don't know about shipping to Spain, but I have been told registered mail is the safest and slowest method of shipping. Everybody that handles the package has to sign for it and if I recall correctly, it is also held in a safe storage area in between movements. Robert

15 January 2010, 08:05 AM	#6
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Forgot to add, the shipment is going through the FPO AE here in Spain, (military postal system) I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this?

15 January 2010, 08:10 AM	#7
kyle L "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Explorer I Posts: 10,278	USPS has horrible tracking updates, but maybe it may be taking some time since it was shipped from another country. But USPS hasn't failed me yet, and I'm sure you'll have a happy ending.

15 January 2010, 08:21 AM	#9
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Though the tracking is terrible, its the most reliable method of shipping. Why would you file a paypal dispute when you haven't received it yet? If it shows it was shipped then its still in the system and if its registered then its insured. Did you contact the seller beforehand to see whats going on?

15 January 2010, 08:22 AM	#12
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	It has taken me a couple of weeks to get packages to and from Spain. Now Hong Kong is like four days, the reason is the mail flight from Hong Kong lands in California where I live. Go figure

15 January 2010, 08:23 AM	#13
gt3pilot "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: Indiana Watch: this Posts: 537	In almost 30 years of shipping using USPS registered mail I have never had a package not make it. A couple of times it took quite awhile, but they always have made it. Also shipping out of the country takes much longer than even what they tell you at the PO. I recently sent a package to Canada and it said 7-10 days with priority mail. Turned out to actually take almost a month with customs and everything else, but it arrive safe and sound !! The PO. has been a bit better lately with their tracking, at least that's been my experience. It's not Fedex or UPS like, but it's getting better. -Scott B.

15 January 2010, 09:04 AM	#14
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,161	The amount of time for a USPS Registered to a FPO is not out of the norm. It will show up!

15 January 2010, 10:42 AM	#15
jamesworthy52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Posts: 333	I once shipped a 3 carat diamond via registered mail from Florida to New York. It took a week and a half and the tracking only showed accepted until it was finally delivered. It is a nerve-racking waiting period but it will make it. It's too bad they don't adopt FedEx's tracking system.

15 January 2010, 01:06 PM	#23
cornerstore "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 4,010	Today is 9 working days since it was sent to you on the 31st.You can go on USPS site and get a delivery times guide they are very good.http://www.usps.com/international/sendpackages.htm USPS takes 10 days from US to Canada customs included if no problems.With Ebay you had 30 days to make a claim ,as well Spain customs can be a bit slow.That said enjoy your new watch when it comes.

15 January 2010, 01:18 PM	#24
RogerF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Duh! Location: Toronto Canada Watch: a gonna do? Posts: 2,573	as requested I am shutting this down. Buyer and seller take it to PM. __________________ CURRENT LINE UP. 16233 16600 116710BLNR 116500 116610 126710BLRO 126600 116600 (finally)

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