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Rolesor · 12 February 2010, 03:17 AM

Hello once again!

Lately I've been "oogling" this beautiful piece but I've never seen it in person. My AD does sell Tudor so I'm sure I'll see one sooner than later.

Has anyone seen once of these in person? Please share your thoughts on it and the brand for that matter.

I welcome all owners as well - your opinions are greatly appreciated. Do they feel as solid as a Rolex or just "kinda close"..

Thanks!!

ducatidoc · 12 February 2010, 03:27 AM

From what I've observed, and others may chime in to refute, the Tudors end up being poor man's Rolexes, this despite the fact that Rolex themselves have always emphasized that the Tudor line was to have every bit the commitment to F/F, quality and ownership panache that the crown-bearing pieces have. Somehow, it just doesn't work that way, either on the primary or resale markets. TBS, they are in fact excellent watches.

kotsos · 12 February 2010, 03:50 AM

I do not agree with the "poor man's rolex" argument. Tudor is a wonderful brand and they make excellent watches. I own a Tudor Hydronaut II and I find that it rivals Rolex in many ways. Where Rolex does not make huge cosmetic changes to their line up (and why should they since they are loved by consumers) they managed to do just that with the Tudor brand. Such models like the Hydronaut II and the Hydronaut chrono, are contemporary models that are rather different than the traditional looks of the Rolex brand. I believe them to be a milestone in Rolex and Tudor history.

As far as the movements are concerned, Tudor uses modified ETA movements and they are not developed in house like the Rolex movements. However they are still of a very high quality.

For me when I was looking for a diver's watch I was looking for something different than the Rolex submariner looks, however something that was trustworthy and looked the part. Here is the outcome of my search:

rad87gn · 12 February 2010, 03:42 AM

Excellent quality. Just doesn't have the crown & Rolex name on it, or the Rolex movement. Doesn't have the Rolex price either.

JimSnyder · 12 February 2010, 03:49 AM

Fantastic watches new and old.

Rolesor · 12 February 2010, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rad87gn

Excellent quality. Just doesn't have the crown & Rolex name on it, or the Rolex movement. Doesn't have the Rolex price either.

Do you guys think they "feel" like a Rolex in terms of ruggedness, weight and quality?..

2th Dr · 12 February 2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolesor

Do you guys think they "feel" like a Rolex in terms of ruggedness, weight and quality?..

Absolutely!!!thumbsup:

2th Dr · 27 May 2010, 11:44 AM

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Do you guys think they "feel" like a Rolex in terms of ruggedness, weight and quality?..

Absolutely!!!! NO doubt! Wearing mine as I type...
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TattooedGQ · 12 February 2010, 03:53 AM

This might be a dumb question, but is Tudor still a subsidiary of Rolex or did they make a complete break?

kotsos · 12 February 2010, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

This might be a dumb question, but is Tudor still a subsidiary of Rolex or did they make a complete break?

Still a Rolex subsidiary.

TattooedGQ · 12 February 2010, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kotsos

Still a Rolex subsidiary.

Cool Thinks Kotsos!

Bullyterrier · 12 February 2010, 04:04 AM

Tudor is an ok brand in its own right. Similar to an Omega.

There have been many discussions before, it might have the Rolex connection at the factory, and once had the cases and crowns of Rolex, but the bottom line, they are not a Rolex.

Safetrends · 12 February 2010, 04:15 AM

Tudor is not a Rolex, it is a brand of its own like Ford an Lincoln. This is why you have a problem with buyers selling a Tudor as a Rolex. The seller is asking big bucks for it and the buyers who do not know the difference buy one being scammed.

Tudor is a really good watch, same QC as Rolex and I do not understand someone doing that to a watch, the Tudor has its own collectors who really pay bucks for some models.

Engi · 12 February 2010, 04:20 AM

Brandon,
I'm the happy owner of the exact model you posted.

My feedback about it is extremely positive, I like the look and the feeling on the wrist and in addition the day-date feature.

Of course is not a Rolex, but the quality, attention to details and robustness are at the top, at a really great price ... !

Here below a quick and dirty mobile phone pic of my watch.

Ciao

Engi

Rolesor · 12 February 2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Engi

Brandon,
I'm the happy owner of the exact model you posted.

My feedback about it is extremely positive, I like the look and the feeling on the wrist and in addition the day-date feature.

Of course is not a Rolex, but the quality, attention to details and robustness are at the top, at a really great price ... !

Here below a quick and dirty mobile phone pic of my watch.

Ciao

Engi

Thanks for that post and the picture! Please if you have any others I would greatly appreciate seeing how it looks in the real world verses through the lens of a professional photographer.

Everyone else thanks for your input thus far! Please keep it coming!

cornerstore · 12 February 2010, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolesor

Hello once again!

Lately I've been "oogling" this beautiful piece but I've never seen it in person. My AD does sell Tudor so I'm sure I'll see one sooner than later.

Has anyone seen once of these in person? Please share your thoughts on it and the brand for that matter.

I welcome all owners as well - your opinions are greatly appreciated. Do they feel as solid as a Rolex or just "kinda close"..

Thanks!!

I love my mid 90sTudor Sub.It feels and looks like a Rolex Sub from the 80s matt dial, acrylic crystal, Rolex Sub case and crown ,bracelet and at current prices of $2-2500 I'd say they more than kept their value.Also probably a good investment going forward. New Tudors currently not sold in the US suffer the Omega syndrome much greater short term depreciation .

mcubed · 12 February 2010, 04:32 AM

FYI, was just at the Tudor site. Looks like they have updated the Hydronaut again. Looks like it has an aluminum insert now, and they actually look more "sublike" wonder if this is because the Sub is going ceramic.......

Cato · 12 February 2010, 04:51 AM

I don't like Tudor watches. I believe one of the brands main selling point is that it's made by Rolex; why not get a Rolex then? If price is an issue, there are used Rolexs out there.

Tudor is to Rolex what Brown is to the Ivy League: it's fame comes via association.

greekbum · 27 May 2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cato

I don't like Tudor watches. I believe one of the brands main selling point is that it's made by Rolex; why not get a Rolex then? If price is an issue, there are used Rolexs out there.

Tudor is to Rolex what Brown is to the Ivy League: it's fame comes via association.

Modern Tudor is on its own and doesn't appeal to me.The only reason I look at them is the Rolex association. Vintage Tudor back in the day were the poor mans Rolex you bought 1 because they were CHEAPER and made by Rolex and looked almost identical to a Rolex. I have owned dozens and dozens of Vintage Tudors and for the most part because they were cheaper and gave me the same watch junkie high as almost buying a Rolex.They are not even money and they are not the same.The Tudor Chronos because they have a date and look like a daytona Ive always liked.

sbux · 12 February 2010, 06:19 AM

feel the same but they use 316 instead of 904 steel...older tudors have rolex crowns and even bracelets !!!

acce1999 · 12 February 2010, 07:07 AM

I like Tudor, and own one: The older style chrono, which looks similar to the Rolex Daytona. The newer Tudors have a style of their own, but still you can clearly recognise the heritage from Rolex. Being a daughter company to Rolex I would say that Tudor is a brand to explore new styles and ideas, whilst Rolex is more conservative. Percieved quality is on par. I've tried many of the newer models out, and where given a very good price on a Hydro II today, but I always ask myself: Which of my Rolexes will I use less when picking this up, and the bothersome answer is that I do not want to use any of my Rolexes less (if that is really a problem

I am aware of the fact that I own several expensive watches.).

Therefore I currently just admire Tudor , but I do not spend any money. I asked myself why today, after the offer of the Hydro, and I am coming back to the classical and conservative design of Rolex (including the Tudor I own), which I like very much.

I might change my mind though, perhaps I'll get that Hydro II tomorrow.

Best,

A

Jason71 · 12 February 2010, 07:26 AM

I love the older generation Tudor Subs, but only because they used the same cases as the Rolex. Now, with the more contemporary look.........I just don't care for them. I guess I am just an "old school" type of person.

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jclevoy

I love the older generation Tudor Subs, but only because they used the same cases as the Rolex. Now, with the more contemporary look.........I just don't care for them. I guess I am just an "old school" type of person.

x2 Jason

sakuraba · 12 February 2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicko

x2 Jason

How's your Tudor Sub going, Steve?

acce1999 · 12 February 2010, 07:45 AM

Here's a pic:

Rolesor · 12 February 2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by acce1999

Here's a pic:

wow that piece is stunning!!

JimSnyder · 12 February 2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by acce1999

Here's a pic:

sbux · 12 February 2010, 12:58 PM

why did u make the center links polished? I have a similar one silver dial non-tiger..

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Originally Posted by acce1999

Here's a pic:

acce1999 · 12 February 2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sbux

why did u make the center links polished?

I didn't. What you see is a Rolex Daytona bracelet (for the 16520). They are polished like that. What I did polish was the center part of the end links, to match the bracelet. I find that it goes much better with the polished lugs of the watch. My Tudor is the last iteration; 79260P. And it came with a different bracelet, like this (and this is how I prefer it):

Best,

A

jdc · 12 February 2010, 09:06 PM

I have an older Tudor sub, I can say it gets as much wrist time as my two Rolex. The quality is great and when I ordered an new bracelet for it it was ordered through Rolex by my AD. The newer models are more experimental in terms of looks and I have not handled any but I understand from members here who own both brands that the new ones are impressive and value for money. At the end of the day if you buy a Tudor you are not going to wear the Rolex brand. You need to decide what is most important the brand or the watch.

12 February 2010, 03:17 AM	#1
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,150	Your thoughts on this Tudor / the Brand itself? Hello once again! Lately I've been "oogling" this beautiful piece but I've never seen it in person. My AD does sell Tudor so I'm sure I'll see one sooner than later. Has anyone seen once of these in person? Please share your thoughts on it and the brand for that matter. I welcome all owners as well - your opinions are greatly appreciated. Do they feel as solid as a Rolex or just "kinda close".. Thanks!! Attached Images

12 February 2010, 03:27 AM	#2
ducatidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: the doc side Watch: zenith Posts: 3,779	From what I've observed, and others may chime in to refute, the Tudors end up being poor man's Rolexes, this despite the fact that Rolex themselves have always emphasized that the Tudor line was to have every bit the commitment to F/F, quality and ownership panache that the crown-bearing pieces have. Somehow, it just doesn't work that way, either on the primary or resale markets. TBS, they are in fact excellent watches. __________________ The payments remain long after the novelty has worn off. # 26371 NAWCC Member

12 February 2010, 03:42 AM	#4
rad87gn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: Des Moines, Iowa Watch: Rolex, PAM, Omega Posts: 1,607	Excellent quality. Just doesn't have the crown & Rolex name on it, or the Rolex movement. Doesn't have the Rolex price either. __________________ Rolex P-Series SS GMT II Black, Rolex Y-Series Sea-Dweller, Rolex F-Series TT Blue Sub, Rolex F-Series Sub LV, Rolex D-Series Ladies SS/WG DJ for wife, Panerai K-Series PAM 112, Omega Speedmaster Pro 3570.50, Omega Seamaster 300M Chrono 2594.52

12 February 2010, 03:49 AM	#5
JimSnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Snyder Location: Ohio Watch: Ask me later..... Posts: 7,726	Fantastic watches new and old. __________________ "You ain't lived, 'til you've had your tires rotated by a red-headed women."

12 February 2010, 03:53 AM	#9
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	This might be a dumb question, but is Tudor still a subsidiary of Rolex or did they make a complete break? __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

12 February 2010, 03:50 AM	#3
kotsos "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cyprus Posts: 131	I do not agree with the "poor man's rolex" argument. Tudor is a wonderful brand and they make excellent watches. I own a Tudor Hydronaut II and I find that it rivals Rolex in many ways. Where Rolex does not make huge cosmetic changes to their line up (and why should they since they are loved by consumers) they managed to do just that with the Tudor brand. Such models like the Hydronaut II and the Hydronaut chrono, are contemporary models that are rather different than the traditional looks of the Rolex brand. I believe them to be a milestone in Rolex and Tudor history. As far as the movements are concerned, Tudor uses modified ETA movements and they are not developed in house like the Rolex movements. However they are still of a very high quality. For me when I was looking for a diver's watch I was looking for something different than the Rolex submariner looks, however something that was trustworthy and looked the part. Here is the outcome of my search:

12 February 2010, 04:04 AM	#12
Bullyterrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: . Posts: 1,343	Tudor is an ok brand in its own right. Similar to an Omega. There have been many discussions before, it might have the Rolex connection at the factory, and once had the cases and crowns of Rolex, but the bottom line, they are not a Rolex. __________________ So Mote it be.

12 February 2010, 04:15 AM	#13
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Tudor is not a Rolex, it is a brand of its own like Ford an Lincoln. This is why you have a problem with buyers selling a Tudor as a Rolex. The seller is asking big bucks for it and the buyers who do not know the difference buy one being scammed. Tudor is a really good watch, same QC as Rolex and I do not understand someone doing that to a watch, the Tudor has its own collectors who really pay bucks for some models.

12 February 2010, 04:20 AM	#14
Engi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,434	Brandon, I'm the happy owner of the exact model you posted. My feedback about it is extremely positive, I like the look and the feeling on the wrist and in addition the day-date feature. Of course is not a Rolex, but the quality, attention to details and robustness are at the top, at a really great price ... ! Here below a quick and dirty mobile phone pic of my watch. Ciao Engi

12 February 2010, 04:32 AM	#17
mcubed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: US Posts: 468	FYI, was just at the Tudor site. Looks like they have updated the Hydronaut again. Looks like it has an aluminum insert now, and they actually look more "sublike" wonder if this is because the Sub is going ceramic....... __________________ The safest place for Your Rolex is on Your wrist 2002 Rolex Submariner 14060 1963 Omega Automatic LL6304 1953 Wittnauer Revue 2009 Swiss Army Divemaster 500

12 February 2010, 04:51 AM	#18
Cato Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Land of the Lost Watch: 116610LN Posts: 2,201	I don't like Tudor watches. I believe one of the brands main selling point is that it's made by Rolex; why not get a Rolex then? If price is an issue, there are used Rolexs out there. Tudor is to Rolex what Brown is to the Ivy League: it's fame comes via association.

12 February 2010, 06:19 AM	#20
sbux "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 303	feel the same but they use 316 instead of 904 steel...older tudors have rolex crowns and even bracelets !!!

12 February 2010, 07:07 AM	#21
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	I like Tudor, and own one: The older style chrono, which looks similar to the Rolex Daytona. The newer Tudors have a style of their own, but still you can clearly recognise the heritage from Rolex. Being a daughter company to Rolex I would say that Tudor is a brand to explore new styles and ideas, whilst Rolex is more conservative. Percieved quality is on par. I've tried many of the newer models out, and where given a very good price on a Hydro II today, but I always ask myself: Which of my Rolexes will I use less when picking this up, and the bothersome answer is that I do not want to use any of my Rolexes less (if that is really a problem I am aware of the fact that I own several expensive watches.). Therefore I currently just admire Tudor , but I do not spend any money. I asked myself why today, after the offer of the Hydro, and I am coming back to the classical and conservative design of Rolex (including the Tudor I own), which I like very much. I might change my mind though, perhaps I'll get that Hydro II tomorrow. Best, A

12 February 2010, 07:26 AM	#22
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	I love the older generation Tudor Subs, but only because they used the same cases as the Rolex. Now, with the more contemporary look.........I just don't care for them. I guess I am just an "old school" type of person. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

12 February 2010, 07:45 AM	#25
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	Here's a pic:

12 February 2010, 09:06 PM	#30
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	I have an older Tudor sub, I can say it gets as much wrist time as my two Rolex. The quality is great and when I ordered an new bracelet for it it was ordered through Rolex by my AD. The newer models are more experimental in terms of looks and I have not handled any but I understand from members here who own both brands that the new ones are impressive and value for money. At the end of the day if you buy a Tudor you are not going to wear the Rolex brand. You need to decide what is most important the brand or the watch.

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